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Title: New rail speed record
Post by: gwfan on April 03, 2007, 08:33:30 AM
The TGV V150 has set a new rail speed record of 357 mph (that's MPH not kph)!
Title: Re: New rail speed record
Post by: Seasaltchap on April 03, 2007, 09:01:58 AM

Just logged-in to report the probable event, from BBC News on PBS (Delayed).

The wheel diameters have been increased, and somehow 6000 volts features.

Title: Re: New rail speed record
Post by: ben_not_benny on April 03, 2007, 04:02:26 PM
That's really fast.

Is there anyone who's willing to model a TGV V150?
Title: Re: New rail speed record
Post by: Seasaltchap on April 03, 2007, 11:18:27 PM
The 6000 volts was bumping up the voltage from 25KV to 31KV for more powerful 25,000 HP motors.

The roof shot of the pantograph is interesting to watch because that is where most of the problems of over heating are experienced and a lot of development has gone into shedding the effects of arcing.

TGV V150 = 150 metres/second.
Title: Re: New rail speed record
Post by: David(UK) on April 04, 2007, 05:51:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJb-oUgSwN8
has a nice short video of the attempts.
Title: Re: New rail speed record
Post by: r.cprmier on April 04, 2007, 07:45:53 AM
I am curious;
WHere does the 6,000 volts come in?  The line pressure (EMF)-on the NE corridor-used to be 11,000VAC single phase 25cycle (HZ), and they bumped it up with the new equipment, to somewhere around 25KV; but the motors, at least to my knowledge, are not rated at 6,000 volts.  What would be the logic behind a traction motor rated for that high a pressure, when they have 25+KV to draw from, rectify, step down, etc, considering what would have to be worked into a device/motor rated that high?  This based upon the obvious safer lower voltage (440-600V).

Most anything I am familiar with relating to overhead had employed motors rated at about 440VAC/DC-600VAC?DC; this of course, restricted to North American railroads.  I am not familiar with continental, or Asian equipment.

I can understand catenary construction and the theory supporting its operation, but can't for the life of me, understand why a motor in that application  would have to be rated that high.

Having been an electrician for about 40 years, and  having worked on equipment up to 2300VAC, I am familiar with the ramifications and considerations given to high-voltage equipment, thus my questions.

RIch
Title: Re: New rail speed record
Post by: modlerbob on April 04, 2007, 10:50:43 AM
I watched a program recently about their previous record run.  It takes 20 miles to stop from that speed safely.  Thats why they limit scheduled passenger service to around 200 mph and it still takes 5 miles to stop.