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#16
General Discussion / Re: railroad or railway
April 10, 2007, 12:28:39 PM


#94 : Your time has come: where have you been?

I agree.

Regards
#17


A few years ago PECO constructed the track plan of Waterloo Station, London, used in adverts of the time, to demonstrate what could be done with PECO track.
#18
General Discussion / Re: railroad or railway
April 09, 2007, 07:18:55 PM
Gene : I think much of the learning from this thread is confirmed in the following Wikipedia pages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_terminology

The way the name changes are made are also borne out.

The articles also note that Railway appears prefered in the English speaking World, whereas Railroad is typically American.

Regards

#19
General Discussion / Re: railroad or railway
April 09, 2007, 10:21:46 AM
 
"As a really good example, I should have named my model the Virginia Tidewater and Piedmont Railway, but I didn't.   It's a railroad."

Gene :   In deciding this, was it only as a purist to practice?

I am looking at this thread as an opportunity to explore the origins of the usage. Early track had the flange on the rail, and not on the wheels; maybe this is the root of flat treads running on a railroad - because they could equally also run on a normal road.

Regards
#20
General Discussion / Re: railroad or railway
April 08, 2007, 10:41:42 PM

Gene : I think you create confusion with a false precedent.

Quote from: SteamGene on April 08, 2007, 06:32:17 PM
As I pointed out, the general public seems to attach "railroad" to all - even those interested do the same.  After all, it's MODEL RAILROADER, not MODEL RAILWAYER.  Gene

It is also RAILWAY MODELLER from Peco Publications for over 50 years.

What I am trying to work down to, is that there is another tribe that exists on the otherside of the hill, and their precedence might predate your own when setting the lexicon.

I do agree, "Railroad" is a typically American term.

May I please not have to go through an ordeal over this matter.

Regards
#21
General Discussion / Re: railroad or railway
April 08, 2007, 01:43:10 PM

Sheldon : I don't see this as a cause for you to get uptight.

Please don't tell us you are NOT getting uptight.

The words "Convert" and "Save" are yours.

Several in this thread have put forward quite plasible reasoning that has nothing to do with the insecurity you display.

Please do not tell us that you are NOT insecure.

AND, please listen to that guy you related who told you it was not appropriate for you to have guns.

Regards

Stewart
#22
General Discussion / Re: Name That Locomotive Game
April 07, 2007, 11:10:48 PM
Guilford Guy : I think you may have it right.

LAJ No. 2571, was a CF7, built by Electro-Motive in June 1949.

It has had a chequered history first as #7746 with Atchison Topeka & Santa Fe, retired on November 11, 1973: Rebuilt at Cleburne, in May 1973. Finally sold to LAJ taking their No. 2571.



#23
General Discussion / Re: railroad or railway
April 07, 2007, 10:39:00 PM

Scot : Thanks for your confirmation.

Quote from: scottychaos on April 07, 2007, 10:18:24 PM
.........not many people know that..
Scot

Are you a Michael Caine Fan ?

Regards
#24
General Discussion / Re: NMRA 8pin plugs
April 07, 2007, 10:20:43 PM

Why bother?

It is probably just as easy, and more flexible, to hard wire-in decoders: when you can then choose where to pack them in the body.

Regards


#25
General Discussion / Re: railroad or railway
April 07, 2007, 10:09:57 PM
SteamGene :  I was looking to the root of the usage of the words. They were obviously new to the lexicon.

Sheldon : I think it must be you, and that you are also given to mean "Corporate".

Matt : I think your explaination of the interchangeability of the words is what we are actually witnessing. New owners want to keep the goodwill in a name, with the least amount of change, and yet to give notice of the new management.

For me it is Railway, and Railroad is a very American thing.

Regards
#26
General Discussion / Re: railroad or railway
April 07, 2007, 02:45:55 PM
In 1825 it was "The Stockton & Darlington Railway", although George Stephenson had built his first steam engine to run on a railway at Killingworth Colliery in 1814, and another at Hetton Colliery, Durham in 1822.

And in 1804 Richard Trevithick is acknowledged to have built the World's first steam engine to run on a railway at Merthyr Tydfill in South Wales.

The worlds first passenger railway goes I think to "The Oystermouth Tramway" of 1807 in South Wales, subsequently "The Swansea & Mumbles Railway" However, for many years it was only horse drawn.

Does anyone have any earlier contenders to set the precedent for Railroad v. Railway?

Regards
#27
General Discussion / Re: Torn RTV Mold
April 07, 2007, 11:24:27 AM
Dave 2-8-0 : I congratulate you on having a go. This is the spirit that makes for a hobby.

Mike : There is no need for you to run axles in the tin/bismuth castings. There are brass bearing cups available for "O" gauge that you can drill out for, and press into the castings. Look for Item 7M63 in http://www.scalefour.org/ag/7ag2.htm

Have either of you considered doing the artwork for etched brass parts to make your kits.

Regards

#28
HO / Re: Layout survey
April 05, 2007, 01:48:04 PM

This thread has elements of previous threads about, "8 x 4" etc.

Railways in practice seldom if ever go around in circles; they go from A to B. Taking a slice out of life to model has this problem when "playing trains."

All my layouts have been from end-to-end, even the Club layout, over 40 feet, was an end to end model of an end-to-end line long since gone, BUT the layout was subsequently adopted by the local museum as of local historical interest. The BBC did a ½hr program on it.

Consequently all my efforts have been modular in design, for easy transport and storage. A practice adopted for transport and storage was to double-deck similar size boards, face to face, with masonite sides. This was been found to save on damage.

Locating pins are not relied upon. In place of large washers when bolting tables together, it is better to laminate predrilled 1/8" x 1½" steel strips cut to at least 2/3 of the join, and to be able to bolt these together to make the joint rigid when the alignment is o'k.


#29
General Discussion / Re: Torn RTV Mold
April 05, 2007, 01:12:09 PM


Dave2-8-0 : I am interested. Are you pouring metal or resin.

RTV will bond to itself, it is in the warnings when making the cope: to not bond the two parts of a mould together!!

If metal, what temperatures are you working. Generally RTV is only good to about 500F, and the more you hit that, the shorter the life of the mould.

Are you putting any strengtheners within the RTV to hold it together better, like canvas or heavy cloth - and pieces of wood where appropriate to still allow release of the cast.

Regards
#30
HO / Re: Layout survey
April 04, 2007, 11:30:49 AM


Sheldon : So, are you going to share your answers to the questions, with us?

Learning is a shared experience, when one has your experience.

Regards