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Title: Its Here
Post by: Joe323 on April 16, 2010, 10:08:40 AM
My EZ command just arrived  I spent last night while my Finance' was working a double shift preparing the wiring for its arrival. Hopefully It will just need to be plugged in and programmed.
Title: Re: Its Here
Post by: full maxx on April 16, 2010, 12:09:12 PM
the controller needs no programing just the locos as all Bachmann dcc locos come programed to #3...other manufactures I'm not sure about but just watch the dvd it's really easy
Title: Re: Its Here
Post by: ABC on April 16, 2010, 01:30:21 PM
Quote from: full maxx on April 16, 2010, 12:09:12 PM
all Bachmann dcc locos come programed to #3...other manufactures I'm not sure about but just watch the dvd it's really easy
Other manufacturer's usually have the default address set to either the cab number or 03 or 0003.
Title: Re: Its Here
Post by: Joe323 on April 16, 2010, 02:46:35 PM
Thanks for advice.  I am in the office so I cannot work on it till tommorrow. I'll let you know how it goes

Joe
Title: Re: Its Here
Post by: Jim Banner on April 16, 2010, 11:40:58 PM
Quote from: ABC on April 16, 2010, 01:30:21 PM
Other manufacturer's usually have the default address set to either the cab number or 03 or 0003.

I fear there is a misunderstanding of just what a default address is.  For a decoder, it is basically the address the decoder will respond to when brand new from the decoder manufacturer and/or when reset to its factory settings.  For a more thorough discussion, see this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Default_%28computer_science%29

Many decoders are programmed to the cab number when installed in locomotives.  But when reset, these decoders default to address 03 as mandated by NMRA.  Decoders not installed in locomotives are shipped set to the default address 03.  There are exceptions, such as two digit decoders installed in locomotives with four digit cab numbers.  For more information, see this link:
http://www.nmra.org/standards/DCC/standards_rps/rp922.html

The four digit address 0003 is not a valid default address for decoders.  In fact, for many systems, it is not a valid address at all.  Other systems do allow the use of 2 digit address 03 and 4 digit address 0003 as valid, yet different addresses, much to the confusion of unwary users.  And just to complete the confusion, some systems allow you to enter the 4 digit address 0003 and automatically convert it to 2 digit address 03 without any indication that they have done so, creating the impression that 0003 is a default address.

Bottom line, the default address for decoders is 03.  But when factory installed in a locomotive, it has probably been preprogrammed to the cab number for your convenience.

Jim
Title: Re: Its Here
Post by: ABC on April 17, 2010, 12:10:05 AM
Quote from: Jim Banner on April 16, 2010, 11:40:58 PMI fear there is a misunderstanding of just what a default address is. 
Thanks for clarifying that Jim, it seems I am always causing confusion one way or another.
Title: Re: Its Here
Post by: Joe323 on April 17, 2010, 10:14:22 PM
Well I installed the EZ Command last night on the layout and right away noticed a couple of differences First everything runs at full power even when nit moving my analog engines running on address 0 hum even at full speed.  I' am afraid to run them long term on the layout Will  they overheat? Luckily my Loving Finance" and family has offered to buy it fore me for My birthday Xmas Hanukkah Etc.  I but in a request for a switcher right away.  So far only one thing I do not like theres no on/off switch on the command center itself.
Title: Re: Its Here
Post by: ABC on April 17, 2010, 10:36:27 PM
Leaving DC locos sitting on a DCC layout is a bad idea and running them for extended periods of time could hypothetically cause problems, but I have never had a problem, however a by product is that humming noise and there isn't anything you can do to get rid of it short of converting your DC locos to DCC. Basically whatever you do, do not leave DC locos on live track for more than a minute or you could ruin them.
Title: Re: Its Here
Post by: Joe323 on April 17, 2010, 10:46:59 PM
Yes they hum so I'm going to make a trip to my LHS to get some DCC Lomotives sometime after my trip to Chicago this week Overall I like the realism that DCC adds to my small layout
Title: Re: Its Here
Post by: Joe323 on April 18, 2010, 10:52:19 AM
maybe om stretching but could a silent decorder disturb our dog if it's that high pitched?
Title: Re: Its Here
Post by: OldTimer on April 18, 2010, 11:03:38 AM
Joe, you'll have to ask your dog.  Mine don't seem to mind my Digitrax decoders.    ;)
Old Timer
Title: Re: Its Here
Post by: Joe323 on April 18, 2010, 03:24:34 PM
Bruce Replied woof woof :)
Title: Re: Its Here
Post by: Jim Banner on April 18, 2010, 11:44:39 PM
My two dogs do not seem to mind the ultrasonic "silent" decoders I use.  I suspect the frequency is at the upper edge of their hearing.  Now bats could be a whole different story.  Someday I'll have to run trains up in a belfry and see what happens.

Come to think of it, I haven't had a mouse problem in the train room for the last few years.  Do you think ...?

Jim
Title: Re: Its Here
Post by: Joe323 on April 19, 2010, 03:52:25 PM
I have one other Question about EZ Command.  There is no on off switch on the Command Center.  I am thinking about plugging it into a surge protector (Along with the 2 MRC analog controllers I am using for lighting switching etc).  Is there any reason why I should not do this?  Seems to me there is no reason to havethe power pack running 24/7 while I'm working sleeping etc.
Title: Re: Its Here
Post by: Jim Banner on April 19, 2010, 07:00:42 PM
I do that with my Digitrax equipment and have never had a problem.  And I seem to remember Yampa Bob saying he used a power bar to turn everything on and off at once, including his E-A Command.

Jim
Title: Re: Its Here
Post by: Joe323 on April 21, 2010, 02:14:53 PM
Leaving DC locos sitting on a DCC layout is a bad idea and running them for extended periods of time could hypothetically cause problems, but I have never had a problem, however a by product is that humming noise and there isn't anything you can do to get rid of it short of converting your DC locos to DCC. Basically whatever you do, do not leave DC locos on live track for more than a minute or you could ruin them.

So far the only side effect has been that hum Converting the non DCC ready cheaper locos is probably not practical for me.  Instead I plan on buying a second DCC equipped Geep (and a small DCC Switcher for my staging yard).  Then I'll retire the DC Locos to the Christmas tree in 2011.  We will not be putting up a Christmas/Hanukkah layout this year, as our wedding date is 1/8/11 and its just too close to fuss with decorating.

Anyway I do not leave the DC locos on the track idling I take them off.