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Title: 2-8-2
Post by: Daylight4449 on November 21, 2008, 04:58:19 PM
dONT COMPLAIN ABOUT LOOKS, i NEED TO KOW IF THE SY WILL run on 18 inch radius curves.
Title: Re: 2-8-2
Post by: Santa Fe buff on November 21, 2008, 05:16:59 PM
My friend's Daylight 4449 4-8-4 made it on 18" radii, Daylight4449 ;). I'd say yes, but it won't look pretty, just don't have switches/turnouts right after a turn, they tend to hop them when they come out of the turn. So, yes, but it wouldn't look like the pictures, the rear will swing out a bit, but it should be fine. Have fun. :) I won't complain, but I do like the 2-8-2s, they look like true Baldwins!  :)
Title: Re: 2-8-2
Post by: Guilford Guy on November 21, 2008, 06:14:17 PM
The Bachmann SY 2-8-2's were built in China and shipped over for use on Susquehanna(now in service on the Bel-Del) and the Valley Railroad.
Title: Re: 2-8-2
Post by: SteamGene on November 21, 2008, 06:48:25 PM
While the 1:1 steam locomotive varied in the degree of curvature it could take in some direct proportion to its wheel base, the same is not true of models.  Just because a 4-8-4 can take an 18" radius, it does not follow that a 2-8-2 can also. 
OTOH, the SV 2-8-2 is a small Mike.  It probably can take an 18" radius and might even look fairly decent on it. 
Gene
Title: Re: 2-8-2
Post by: the Bach-man on November 21, 2008, 10:14:36 PM
Dear All,
I believe the SY will take a 18" radius- I'll check next week.
Have fun!
the Bach-man
Title: Re: 2-8-2
Post by: WGL on November 22, 2008, 01:55:23 AM
 My 2-8-2 BLI Heavy Mikado takes 18" curves at 110 HO mph & looks fine on them.
Title: Re: 2-8-2
Post by: RAM on November 22, 2008, 04:27:32 PM
and only rolled four times.
Title: Re: 2-8-2
Post by: Yampa Bob on November 22, 2008, 05:48:27 PM
That's only 110 feet per minute, actually slow even on my small layout.
Title: Re: 2-8-2
Post by: Jim Banner on November 22, 2008, 06:39:00 PM
Five seconds per lap on a 3 foot circle sounds good for slot cars but a tad fast for trains.
Title: Re: 2-8-2
Post by: kevin2083 on November 23, 2008, 01:21:05 AM
I've got an AHM 0-4-0 that does a lap around the 4x8 in about 2.5 seconds......if it stays on the track that is.

My IHC 2-8-2 looks reasonable on 18" curves, so the smaller SY should look better


Kevin
Title: Re: 2-8-2
Post by: WGL on November 23, 2008, 02:02:53 AM
  110 HO mph looks very fast to me, too fast for normal operation.  I was surprised that it didn't derail.  Bob, I wonder what top speed your fastest loco gets.
Title: Re: 2-8-2
Post by: Yampa Bob on November 23, 2008, 02:40:07 AM
The only locos I've clocked are a couple GP40 and a FTA, about 135 with no cars.  Surprisingly they take curves like they are on rails. (pardon the pun).

I didn't like the performance or appearance of an IHC Mike and returned it. I may try out the SY on my next visit to Caboose Hobbies.
Title: Re: 2-8-2
Post by: SteamGene on November 23, 2008, 02:06:16 PM
Bob,

IHC has the same history as Bachmann.  The older ones are junk.  The newer ones are much better.  I'm convinced that the beginning of good plastic steam came with the IHC USRA Heavy Mountain, which they did originally as the C&O shopping.  Any IHC loco built after that is a good buy, even with the cookie cutter flanges.  Before that - don't waste the money.
Gene
Title: Re: 2-8-2
Post by: Daylight4449 on November 23, 2008, 05:43:58 PM
 I'd say yes, but it won't look pretty, just don't have switches/turnouts right after a turn, they tend to hop them when they come out of the turn.

No wonder my 2-8-0 and more often, passenger cars keep hopping switches
Title: Re: 2-8-2
Post by: WGL on November 24, 2008, 02:30:18 AM
  I haven't timed my BLI heavy Mikado alone.  It does 110 pulling 16-18 cars.  I wonder what differences in performance there might be between steamers & diesels, because steamers have much larger wheels.
Title: Re: 2-8-2
Post by: Jim Banner on November 24, 2008, 01:22:45 PM
WGL, the steam locomotive might have larger diameter wheels but they also have larger gear ratios to compensate.
Title: Re: 2-8-2
Post by: Daylight4449 on November 25, 2008, 03:52:42 PM
I want it because i GREW UP WATCHING VIDEOS OF THE 142, MY RAILROAD IS NAMED THE SUSQUEHANNA SO WILL IT RUN.
Title: Re: 2-8-2
Post by: Guilford Guy on November 25, 2008, 04:49:40 PM
I public transited to the LHS in the rain and it made it around their display layout with 18" curves. Where's my check?