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Title: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: derailer on June 14, 2010, 11:12:23 PM
Does Bachmann or any other company make a replica of the Lincoln Funeral Train?
and
Bachmann has a model of the "Jupiter" steam engine.
Does it have any passenger cars to go with it?
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: ABC on June 14, 2010, 11:21:08 PM
Quote from: derailer on June 14, 2010, 11:12:23 PMDoes Bachmann or any other company make a replica of the Lincoln Funeral Train?
Bachmann does not make a replica of the Lincoln Funeral train in any scale. The funeral car that carried the casket is produced, but it usually sells in the area of $150. Check the thread on the forum that talks extensively about the HO model of the car.
Quote from: derailer on June 14, 2010, 11:12:23 PMBachmann has a model of the "Jupiter" steam engine. Does it have any passenger cars to go with it?
Bachmann until very recently made Central Pacific passenger cars for its N scale Jupiter 4-4-0 American locomotive. For HO scale Bachmann did make old-time passenger cars lettered for CP, but they have been out of production for a long time and are pretty hard to find in new/good condition (at least that has been my experience)
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: derailer on June 14, 2010, 11:36:08 PM
Thanks for the info.
On what page is that thread?
There is no way I am going through 169 pages to look for it.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: ABC on June 14, 2010, 11:47:31 PM
Here is an HO model that was made by Pocher and imported by Associated Hobby Manufacturers (more commonly known just as AHM). Some have sold for as high as $200.
(http://home.online.no/~jdigrane/normaned/images/lincoln.jpg)
Here's all the threads about the car/train: http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php?action=search2 (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php?action=search2)
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: Jim Banner on June 15, 2010, 01:05:14 AM
Here is what appears to be the same car but for a lot less than $200.  I have no idea if the locomotive with it is appropriate, but if not, you could just toss it out.

http://cgi.ebay.com/HO-SCALE-LINCOLNS-FUNERAL-TRAIN-/320547487525 (http://cgi.ebay.com/HO-SCALE-LINCOLNS-FUNERAL-TRAIN-/320547487525)

Jim
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: Woody Elmore on June 15, 2010, 06:58:20 AM
The locomotive is from AHM and is supposedly the engine Casey Jones was operating the night of his famous (infamous) crash. The real one was manufactured long after President Lincoln was buried.  If I recall, the engine was also available as a non operating display model in kit form.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: OldTimer on June 15, 2010, 10:55:40 AM
The Rivarossi IC 4-6-0 was offered as an O-scale static model.  A motorizing kit was available separately.  A couple of other engines were also offered including the IHB 0-8-0 and (I think) a FM C-Liner.  The motorizing kits were for 2-rail DC.  I never bought one of these, but I remember seeing them in hobby shops for several years.  The box art was cool, probably why I remember them.  Time frame must be late 60's or early 70's.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: Johnson Bar Jeff on June 15, 2010, 10:57:21 AM
Quote from: Jim Banner on June 15, 2010, 01:05:14 AM
Here is what appears to be the same car but for a lot less than $200.  I have no idea if the locomotive with it is appropriate, but if not, you could just toss it out.

http://cgi.ebay.com/HO-SCALE-LINCOLNS-FUNERAL-TRAIN-/320547487525 (http://cgi.ebay.com/HO-SCALE-LINCOLNS-FUNERAL-TRAIN-/320547487525)

Jim

Oi. Those cars can show up anywhere on eBay!
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: Johnson Bar Jeff on June 15, 2010, 11:02:43 AM
Quote from: OldTimer on June 15, 2010, 10:55:40 AM
The Rivarossi IC 4-6-0 was offered as an O-scale static model.  A motorizing kit was available separately.  A couple of other engines were also offered including the IHB 0-8-0 and (I think) a FM C-Liner.  The motorizing kits were for 2-rail DC.  I never bought one of these, but I remember seeing them in hobby shops for several years.  The box art was cool, probably why I remember them.  Time frame must be late 60's or early 70's.

The HO version was offered RTR in two slightly different paint schemes, one as shown in the link in Jim's post, one with a gray smokebox and some white striping on the cab that was called the "Commemorative" version. I've had one like the one shown since I was a kid back in the 1970s. Darn thing has quit running on me, though.  >:(

I also remember seeing the Virginia & Truckee 4-4-0 "Genoa" in O-scale kit form.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: Woody Elmore on June 15, 2010, 02:02:36 PM
I thank Old Timer for jogging my memory. I recall someone who had the Harbor Belt 0-8-0 built with the repowering kit. The motor was from their HO line and the engine was badly underpowered. 35 years ago O scale cars weighed a ton and needed a hefty engine to pull them. They were nice models for static display.

I wish I had bought the static engines when I had the chance. Today they are "rare" and "vintage" on Ebay.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: BaltoOhioRRfan on June 15, 2010, 04:13:36 PM
Quote from: derailer on June 14, 2010, 11:12:23 PM
Does Bachmann or any other company make a replica of the Lincoln Funeral Train?
and
Bachmann has a model of the "Jupiter" steam engine.
Does it have any passenger cars to go with it?

Con-Cor just announced recently some Central Pacific coaches in their line. and Roundhouse has 50 ft and 34 ft Central Pacific cars. I bought the Overland coaches for my Jupiter, they go long great with it.

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac49/BaltoOhioRRFanCollection/Website/Cp60.jpg) Theres a shot of the engine with a coach, there is 5 total in the set, a 4 Car pack which includes RPO, Combine, Coach and Business, avalible sepretly is a second coach.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: Johnson Bar Jeff on June 16, 2010, 11:53:03 AM
Quote from: BaltoOhioRRfan on June 15, 2010, 04:13:36 PM
Roundhouse has 50 ft and 34 ft Central Pacific cars. I bought the Overland coaches for my Jupiter, they go long great with it.

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac49/BaltoOhioRRFanCollection/Website/Cp60.jpg) Theres a shot of the engine with a coach, there is 5 total in the set, a 4 Car pack which includes RPO, Combine, Coach and Business, avalible sepretly is a second coach.

There is also a nifty little drover's caboose that matches the passenger cars. (Essentially it's the 34-ft. combine with a caboose roof with cupola on top.)
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: BaltoOhioRRfan on June 16, 2010, 05:07:28 PM
I don't recall seeing one for the CP of California, atleast the one they have on thier site is not painted like the coaches.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: Johnson Bar Jeff on June 17, 2010, 11:11:26 AM
Quote from: BaltoOhioRRfan on June 16, 2010, 05:07:28 PM
I don't recall seeing one for the CP of California, atleast the one they have on thier site is not painted like the coaches.

Maybe the drover's caboose is already out of production. I picked one up at the shop at the Strasburg Rail Road (not to be confused with the shop down the road by the Choo-Choo Barn) some time last year. It has the same paint and lettering scheme as the Overland car in your photo.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: BaltoOhioRRfan on June 20, 2010, 12:07:12 PM
here's a shot of the HO scale Lincoln Coach

(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee31/BaltoOhioRRFan/62010/LincolnCar.jpg)
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: Jim Banner on June 20, 2010, 10:25:41 PM
I see that the Lincoln funeral car complete with the dead locomotive went on eBay yesterday for $48.05.  If we suppose the locomotive was worth the $10 or $15 to ship this set, then the lucky bidder bought the car for under $50.

Jim
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: toklap on September 10, 2010, 01:24:07 AM
Right now on eBay there is a limited edition PSC Lincoln Funeral Train set at the starting bid of $2,000.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: toklap on September 11, 2010, 11:12:41 PM
The PSC Lincoln Funeral Train Set went for $2,550. Of course, only 35 sets were made and go as high as $4,000.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: Johnson Bar Jeff on September 14, 2010, 01:28:25 PM
Quote from: toklap on September 11, 2010, 11:12:41 PM
The PSC Lincoln Funeral Train Set went for $2,550. Of course, only 35 sets were made and go as high as $4,000.

That set was O scale. Somebody has the HO funeral car listed--for the second time--with an opening bid of $60. That's too high for an "opening" bid, IMHO.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: railsider on September 20, 2010, 02:27:51 PM
I'm looking for period CP and UP wood-sided 19th-century passenger cars -- one or two of each, probably -- to go with recently-purchased Jupiter and UP119 4-4-0 locos and compete a Promentory Point powered display. Where readily available and reasonably-priced?

The gimmick, if I get it built, is to have the two come in from east and west when a start button is pressed, meet, stop, wiwth sound playing, then a blackout and they back up and re-set for the next demo. Contemporary photos, IIRC, show a car or two with the engines.

BTW, I see a new "issue" of the two famous locos in the latest Walther catalog, with a different color scheme that the old Bachmanns I have. Which is correct????

Railsider
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: Johnson Bar Jeff on September 21, 2010, 04:16:59 PM
Quote from: railsider on September 20, 2010, 02:27:51 PM
I'm looking for period CP and UP wood-sided 19th-century passenger cars -- one or two of each, probably -- to go with recently-purchased Jupiter and UP119 4-4-0 locos and compete a Promentory Point powered display. Where readily available and reasonably-priced?

Try train shows and eBay. The Bachmann passenger cars and the similarly appearing models from Rivarossi/AHM show up quite regularly on eBay. Also Roundhouse/MDC 50-ft. "Overland" cars show up on eBay.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: richg on September 21, 2010, 04:57:19 PM
Quote from: railsider on September 20, 2010, 02:27:51 PM

BTW, I see a new "issue" of the two famous locos in the latest Walther catalog, with a different color scheme that the old Bachmanns I have. Which is correct????

Railsider

Just spend some time doing Google searches for this event. You will find many hits with photos. There may be some photos with the cars. I know the event has been re-created a few times for railroad events. Just do some more homework and maybe join the society out that way that handles this event. You will find this in searches. Then you have all the links you can store in Favorites.

Rich
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: Johnson Bar Jeff on November 08, 2010, 10:24:02 AM
Talk about an abundance of riches!

I just did my daily search on eBay. If anybody is looking for a Lincoln Funeral Car, currently there are two listed under Rivarossi in the HO section of Model Trains under Toys and Hobbies, and I noticed a third car that appeared to be in pretty good shape, even though it was part of a lot of junk old-time passenger cars; I found that by searching for "passenger" in the "Other" category under HO.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: Johnson Bar Jeff on November 09, 2010, 11:19:34 AM
Quote from: Johnson Bar Jeff on November 08, 2010, 10:24:02 AM
Talk about an abundance of riches!

I just did my daily search on eBay. If anybody is looking for a Lincoln Funeral Car, currently there are two listed under Rivarossi in the HO section of Model Trains under Toys and Hobbies, and I noticed a third car that appeared to be in pretty good shape, even though it was part of a lot of junk old-time passenger cars; I found that by searching for "passenger" in the "Other" category under HO.

Oi, what's going on here? Found another new listing this morning. Feast or famine, I guess.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: toklap on February 27, 2011, 10:58:36 PM
Precision Scale will have a HO scale Lincoln Funeral Train set in a limited edition of 75. It will feature the "Nashville" locomotive, the Funeral car, and the officers car.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: richg on February 28, 2011, 12:46:38 PM
Quote from: toklap on February 27, 2011, 10:58:36 PM
Precision Scale will have a HO scale Lincoln Funeral Train set in a limited edition of 75. It will feature the "Nashville" locomotive, the Funeral car, and the officers car.

I could not find that at the PSC site but did a Google search and did find detailed info. That will be quite a set.
1. Coreless can motor.
2. Working valve gear.
3. Lighted cab interior and cars.
4. Polished reflectors.
5. Gauge faces
6. Full cab interior.
7. Simulated caskets in "United States" Presidential Car.
8. Full interiors in cars.
9. Wood presentation box with velvet line interior.
10.Special etched plate on box.
11.Authenticated paint schemes.

I understand PSC will accept First Born Child.

Rich
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: toklap on September 20, 2011, 11:49:52 PM
Lionel trains have announced they will have a Lincoln Funeral Train set. Part of their "Heritage Series", the set features in 1:48 scale (standard O) the 44-0 "Nashville" locomotive, and the "United States" funeral car. Priced at 799.99.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: Doneldon on September 21, 2011, 02:16:47 AM
It's reasonable to expect more Lincoln funeral cars as we move through the Sesquicentennial of the Civil War. Don't be so hasty to buy now that you're no longer in the market as the new products go on sale. Also, I predict a big drop in interest after the Sesquicentennial has run its course.

Railsider-

Ambroid made some outstanding HO wooden craftsman kits years ago. They often show up on ebay. I believe the short, open-ended cars would stand in for your Golden Spike trains.
                                                           -- D
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: toklap on January 09, 2012, 11:49:02 PM
I have recently heard that someone is building a full scale replica of the Lincoln Funeral Train with plans to retrace the orignal route in 2015 in commeration of the 150th anniversary of Lincoln's death. Is this true?
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: Doneldon on January 10, 2012, 12:30:55 AM
tok-

The Civil War is another of my hobbies and I haven't heard this. That doesn't conclusively
mean it isn't true but I do think I'd have come across it.
                                                                                          -- D
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: toklap on January 27, 2012, 12:15:32 AM
Dave Kloke of Kloke Locomotive Works is raising funds to build a full scale replica of the Lincoln Funeral Car in the hopes to be completed in 2014, with hopes to re-enact the funeral train route in 2015. For further information, check the website at www.leviathan63.com.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: Terry Toenges on January 28, 2012, 02:02:19 PM
Here's site with pics.
http://rogerjnorton.com/Lincoln51.html (http://rogerjnorton.com/Lincoln51.html)
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: Johnson Bar Jeff on January 29, 2012, 03:26:08 PM
Quote from: Terry Toenges on January 28, 2012, 02:02:19 PM
Here's site with pics.
http://rogerjnorton.com/Lincoln51.html (http://rogerjnorton.com/Lincoln51.html)

There is a picture of the car in Abdill's Civil War Railroads coupled to a beautiful Mason-built USMRR 4-4-0, the "W.H. Whiton."
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: toklap on April 22, 2012, 12:25:03 AM
There is a new website: www.the2015lincolnfuneraltrain.com announcing plans for the full scale replica of the Lincoln Funeral Train.
Title: Re: Lincoln Funeral Train
Post by: toklap on April 26, 2012, 11:50:45 PM
Right now on eBay there is a Lionel trains Lincoln Funeral Train set at the starting bid of 729.00.