Can anyone tell me what cars came with the original set? I recently purchased the Loco and Tender but am looking for the ORIGINAL CARS......
Dear G2,
What is the color scheme of your loco? What road number is on it?
Which chassis does it have?
Here is (Bill's) version of chassis identification methods (May 2011):
Big Hauler 4-6-0 Chassis Version Identification by Bill Canelos
Version 1 1988-1990 Battery Powered R/C Units
Version 2 1990-1994 Smooth Bottom Cover You can turn drivers by hand and motor will turn
Version 3 1994-1998 Smooth Bottom Cover You cannot turn the drivers by hand
Version 4 1998-1999 Large wide hump dead center between the rear drivers on bottom cover
Version 5 2000-Pres 3/8th inch wide hump offset between the rear drivers and a plastic lubrication plug the size of a dime to the rear of the hump..
Once (Bill) get(s) more info (he) will add the new metal geared chassis in the Annie as Version 6.
From the Big Hauler set list (1988 - 2008) by Bill Canelos:
Set No. Railroad Set Name Intro Date
90022* D&RGW Gold Rush 1994
90025* D&RGW Silverton Flyer Bumble Bee 1995
90032* D&RGW Bumble Bee 1999
90034* D&RGW Rocky Mountain Express 1999
Hope this helps.
I own the 90032 Bumble Bee passenger set (1999), so I can give more details if your loco matches it.
Sincerely,
Joe Satnik
G2 Capt,
I can help you but as Joe pointed out there were four D&RGW sets. Let me know what set loco you have, If you do not know what set your loco came from, describe the loco colors and cab number and I can at least narrow it down.
It's the Bumble Bee... I believe it to be LOCO 173...
There were two Bumble bee sets:
1995 90025 Silverton Flyer with loco 177 and D&RGW Box Car 3527 and D&RGW Bobber Caboose #0506
1999 90032 Bumble bee also with loco 177 and D&RGW Combine 202 and D&RGW Observation "Salida"
If your loco has the version 5 chassis it is definitely the Passenger set, if an earlier chassis it would definitely be then Silverton Flyer set. See Joes post for the chassis identification.
I could not find a D&RGW 4-6-0 with the number 173, so I am thinking it must be #177.
Here is the Bachmann number and info for the cars:
93318 D&RGW 3527 Box Car Denver & Rio Grande
93148 D&RGW 0506 Caboose 4 whl, Denver & Rio Grande Western
89792 D&RGW 202 Combine Denver & Rio Grande Western Yellow
This combine is a newer version than the one in the set and has track power instead of battery powered lights like the one in the set.
89794 D&RGW "Salida" 2005 Obs Denver & Rio Grande Western Yellow
Same note applies to this car as well.
Hope this helps
Thanks Bill, you gentleman's help has been great. As soon as I get to the shop where my 4-6-0 is being serviced, I'll check on the information you have sent me. I'll post as soon as I get that done. Thanks again'''''By the way, I love the Loco and Tender.....I'm having a better smoke unit installed. Russ
Bill, my 4-6-0 Denver Rio Grande Western is the Anniversary Edition.. Russ
If it is the Annie it was never in a set, so there are no specific cars associated with the
Annie from a set standpoint.
If your Annie #178 is product number 91602 it is the latest with the version six chassis.
In reality any of the Bachmann D&RGW passenger cars will look fine with your loco, and any of the 1:22.5 D&RGW freight cars will as well.
Here are some of the passenger cars:
89791 D&RGW None 2005 P-Coach Denver & Rio Grande Western Yellow P Track Power Lights
89792 D&RGW 202 2005 P Combine Denver & Rio Grande Western Yellow P Track Power Lights
89793 D&RGW None 2005 P Baggage Denver & Rio Grande Western Yellow P Not Lighted
89794 D&RGW "Salida" 2005 P-Obs Denver & Rio Grande Western Yellow P Track Power Lights
There are also maroon D&RG and D&RGW passenger cars.
Here are some of the freight cars:
93148 D&RGW 506 2011 Caboose4 4 whl, Denver & Rio Grande Western
93248 D&RGW 71 1994 Refrigerator Denver & Rio Grande
93318 D&RGW 3527 2003 Box Car Denver & Rio Grande
93718 D&RGW Gondola Denver & Rio Grande Western
93818 D&RGW 505 1996 Caboose 8 whl, D&RGW
98118 D&RGW 342 1991 Stock Car Denver & Rio Grande
They also ran a lot of "Gramps tank cars as well!!
93445 UTLX 11050 1989 Tank Car Gramps
Enjoy your new loco!!!
Bill, thank you again for all your help...I will enjoy my new Loco. Already found the passenger cars I want on Ebay.....
Will Bachmann / Williams be at the Eastern Division TCA Meet in York, PA IN A FEW WEEKS ??
Russ
Glad to help!! I think they will be at York TCA, but I do not speak for Bachmann, I suggest starting a new post titled;
"Question for Yardmaster or the Bach-man" and I am sure they will respond.
Dear All,
We will indeed be at the York show. See you there!
Have fun!
the Bach-man