i am new to this i mostly id o scale trains
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Sid
N-scale trains do, so...
Yes, I'm sorry if my friends here have been um, a little sarcastic. We tend to act like that sometimes...
They can have sound if it comes with it or you installed it.
Quote from: WoundedBear on November 24, 2007, 10:52:14 AM
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Sid
dats terrrribl, simplie simplie terrrribl.
Quote from: kranchy on November 24, 2007, 09:45:26 AM
i am new to this i mostly id o scale trains
Yes, HO trains can have sound installed, some come with it factory installed. If you have DCC, the sound is a lot of fun. Regular DC sound is still fun, don't get me wrong, but with DCC you have access to more sounds that are "easier" (in the palm of your hand) to use.
kranchy
I would like to say I am sorry for the way you were responded to
I am new to this forum also and this is the kind of action that drives people away, I am sure that I will get attacted for speaking for up in your defence, we are all adults and should act like it.
I will be the first to admit I am not perfect and dont try to be, But we all come to these forums for the same reason (The Love Of Trains) and for help from the others with the same love as us, I really dont think this poor fellow came here to have a Kindergarden Hook On Phonics Ad thrown in his face
My daddy told me a long time ago that if you cant say something nice to someone then just dont say anything at all
Tom
Okay:
i am new to this i mostly id o scale trains
Does this mean:
I am new to this. I mostly do scale trains. (whatever a "scale train" is)
or
I am new to this. I mostly do O scale trains.
or
I am new to this. I mostly do HO scale trains.
What's your guess, Tommy? I think we can rule out Z, N, and G gauge/scale.
Gen
In this world, whether we like it or not, how you speak and how you spell automatically classifies your education and social standing and thus how other people perceive you.
For example, we've all watched Gerry Springer, even if we don't want to admit it. On that show, as soon as the vast majority of "guests" open their mouths, "Trailer Trash" and "Uneducated" or "Hillybilly" screams out at you. Sadly, poor spelling and poor grammer in posts to this and other boards gives off the same message.
If you want to be taken seriously, at least make an attempt at following standard guide lines when it comes to spelling, at which we are not all perfect, capitalisation, which is not difficult and punctuation which again, isn't too difficult.
We are very forgiving about typos, we've all made them. In fact, some can be quite humourous.
We will ignore the differences between American spelling and the correct spelling for now. :-)
We will ignore the differences between American spelling and the correct spelling for now. :-)
Whilst we wait for the honour of your instruction, Roger? ::)
Gene
Quote from: SteamGene on November 27, 2007, 01:45:09 PM
We will ignore the differences between American spelling and the correct spelling for now. :)
Whilst we wait for the honour of your instruction, Roger? ::)
Gene
"Honour"? You're learning Gene, you're learning. :)
I drive my children/kids crazy by spelling words in full and punctuating all text/SMS messages on my mobile/cell phone.
However, I work in international banking, and believe me, the money I have seen lost, or at best jeopordised by poor typing/spelling/grammar is incredible.
We forgive slip-ups, we all make them. But spellings can be checked, basic rules followed, and checking before sending undertaken quickly. Otherwise, as Gene illustrated, we have really no idea what we were being asked.
Now, the question is Roger. Is your mis-spelling of ''grammar'' as ''grammer'' a typo ? ;D
Paul
We don't use "wilst" down here, either, Roger! And let's not even get into pronunciation. "al u min ium" indeed! :D
Gene
Within and upon this forum, thou wilt find, as it were, many types of languages, and a glossary of terms that may or may not be familiar with or utilized by the uneducated, and even, to some extent, the educated, whom I'll not in this writing attempt to identify nor classify, nor even separate as to whom belongs in what category. Suffice it to say that I percieve that the psychological ramifications of this rather quaint discussion is much deeper than meets the naked eye!!
THANX!!
Ernie
:o ;D Hendersonville, NC
(by way of SALEM, AL!!)
Quote from: rogertra on November 27, 2007, 01:03:26 PM
In this world, whether we like it or not, how you speak and how you spell automatically classifies your education and social standing and thus how other people perceive you.
For example, we've all watched Gerry Springer, even if we don't want to admit it. On that show, as soon as the vast majority of "guests" open their mouths, "Trailer Trash" and "Uneducated" or "Hillybilly" screams out at you. Sadly, poor spelling and poor grammer in posts to this and other boards gives off the same message.
If you want to be taken seriously, at least make an attempt at following standard guide lines when it comes to spelling, at which we are not all perfect, capitalisation, which is not difficult and punctuation which again, isn't too difficult.
We are very forgiving about typos, we've all made them. In fact, some can be quite humourous.
We will ignore the differences between \\
:oBE CAREFUL HOW YOU USE THE TERM "HILLYBILLY""! WE MAY SOON HAVE A "HILLYBILLARY" AS PRESIDENT!! ::)
THANX!!
Ernie
No, no, no. Senator Clinton is from the East. She'd be an "elevated William." :D
Gene
Quote from: ASIANLIFE on November 28, 2007, 05:14:54 AM
Now, the question is Roger. Is your mis-spelling of ''grammar'' as ''grammer'' a typo ? ;D
Paul
It was an error. I spelt it "grammar" at first and looked at it and then changed it to "grammer", which proves you should never second guess yourself. However, spelling is not a strong point of mine.
Sir Gene, it has well been observed by thee that this one about whom we are speaking is from the east; howbeit, when one takes the letters of each given name in said union, one will still come up with letters that could be construed to form the word "HILLYBILLARY" and that is all to which I was referring in my previous note.
Also, be it known by all parties reading this particular thread, that I am more than a little concerned that it might tend to have somewhat of a "political" connotation, and because of same may eventually suffer eradication, since any "political" discussion, or reference to same, may be considered "taboo".
In the well-stated words of the beloved Master Paul Harvey, himself:
GOOD DAY!
THANX!!
Ernie
If a fourteen year old can use fairly proper spelling and grammar, I think some other people can too... [::)]
Text messaging language that some other people on this forum use-mainly Thomas Fans- can at times be quite difficult to read.
Quotei am new to this i mostly id o scale trains
Although it isn't the best, I can say I have seen worse...
When we have 15+ posts about proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation and only 1 or 2 answering the question it can be tedious, and I'm hoping we didn't lose another modeler.
In cruelty I wonder what the loco would look like if they custom decaled it themselves...
In honesty, give them a break... We all make mistakes, and if this is one of those younger modelers in his pre-teens then Internet Etiquette of better spelling may yet to be learned...
GG
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Masuhchoosetz
Okay, I think there's another issue that is being ignored: the content of the question. I typed in 'model trains HO sound' into Google, and I got results for sound decoders, Athearn F-units with sound and DCC, and so on- all on the first page. My point is: do a little research on your own before asking others. If you can't bother to spend 30 seconds on Google (which was all it took), then why should we bother answering you? Just my take on things, but I think it's somerthing that is coming up all too often.
Conrail, that too.
OTOH, I remember not long ago posting a question which I had already searched for (using Good Search, of course!) and got a response to "search the net," though from a person with whom I am not familiar. That said, the initial question was one I could not answer and the poster has not returned.
Gene
YOU GUYS AMAZE ME
This hole thing has gotten crazy, For crying out load this is only a help forum, Now we Quotes and language only collage professors can understand, If i would of had any idea it would come to this I would have never started this thread, Maybe if some of us would just get down off there High Horses and see the real world for just what it is. It all started out over a misspelled word and some bad grammar, The question was still understandable, And has any even noticed the original poster of the misspelling hasn't been back since. More than likely took one look at us and ran for his life.
I have read several replies to questions telling the ask-er to just go search the Internet and get your answers, Now I might be wrong but isn't that one of the reasons for this forum in the first place that being to welcome new people to the hobby and try to give them help by answering there questions and not assaulting them with there spelling skills or telling them go try to search for the answer somewhere else.
I am sorry I am not that way, I am willing to help anyone and will do so weather they spell correctly or not because I will be the first to admit I AM NOT PERFECT
Tommy,
Please go back and read at least one of my notes. What gauge/scale does the guy say he uses? How do you know that?
Maybe he was scared away. if so, did he really care? Could he have not clarified his question? He was asked to.
BTW, most of us ain't college professors. I think we got us one, and he rights pretty much like I do.
Gene
Quote from: SteamGene on November 28, 2007, 09:58:57 PM
I think we got us one, and he rights pretty much like I do.
Gene
LOL,
You are very funny Gene.
Hmmmm....I guess the old adage is true after all......a picture really is worth a thousand words.
And on a little side note.....if you think this is bad....you should try hangin' on a few of the drag racing boards I belong too.......this is absolutely nothing compared to what we put people through over there. Even the jokes on friends on these boards would cause most of you here to run away screaming.
We look at it as community standards. Without those standards, our community fails. With those standards, our community grows stronger, the quality of the membership increases and everyone benefits.
Sid
Gene
The title to the post doesnt get muck clearer "do ho trains have sound"
Then his Question
"i am new to this i mostly id o scale trains"
All he did is forgot a d in did Should have been
I am new to this I mostly did o scale trains
To me it just wasn't that bad or hard to figure out
I am sorry I really didn't want to start a big deal out of this and should have just kept my mouth shut.
Again let me just say I am sorry
The title to the post doesnt get muck clearer "do ho trains have sound"
Then his Question
"i am new to this i mostly id o scale trains"
All he did is forgot a d in did Should have been
I am new to this I mostly did o scale trains
To me it just wasn't that bad or hard to figure out
Was "muck" a typo, or are you being humorous?
If he is interested in HO, why mention O scale, unless you are right and he DID O scale and now he's doing HO. But O scale is upper end modeling, mostly done by people who have been at the hobby for a long time.
I think you have more faith in your ability to decyper than I have in my ability.
FYI, If what he meant was as you wrote, it should be either:
I am new to this. I mostly do O scale trains.
or
I am new to this; I mostly do O scale trains.
I see no reason for you to apologize for stating an opinion. It is too bad the original poster has not returned.
Gene
I'm not surprised he hasn't returned. Are any of you?? If the poor guy ever does return it will most likely be under a new screen name and with perfectly checked grammar. He has probably found a different forum to ask questions on and that is unfortunate.
New Guy
...Alright, so, I'll just say my answer to the real question (purpose for the topic) again and hope it'll flow from there.
Quote from: TrainBrain on November 26, 2007, 09:31:02 AM
Yes, HO trains can have sound installed, some come with it factory installed. If you have DCC, the sound is a lot of fun. Regular DC sound is still fun, don't get me wrong, but with DCC you have access to more sounds that are "easier" (in the palm of your hand) to use.
Quote from: TrainBrain on November 29, 2007, 06:50:40 PM
...Alright, so, I'll just say my answer to the real question (purpose for the topic) again and hope it'll flow from there.
Quote from: TrainBrain on November 26, 2007, 09:31:02 AM
Yes, HO trains can have sound installed, some come with it factory installed. If you have DCC, the sound is a lot of fun. Regular DC sound is still fun, don't get me wrong, but with DCC you have access to more sounds that are "easier" (in the palm of your hand) to use.
Okay, I'll try to help this along. I personally have no intrest in sound because I model heavy electrics and there are almost no sound decoders with electric sounds(other than the GG-1). I don't want to have one loco with sound and the rest without it. Besides, electrics locomotives are comparitively very quiet, so sound is not a necessity.
As concerning his not having returned, may I submit the possibility that he may be a truck driver. I consider myself lucky in the aspect that I am out one day and back the next (even though the pay is somewhat lacking), but some of those guys stay out for WEEKS! :o
Of course, when and if he does return, he may not recognize his original thread, or he may not realize that within all this "stuff", there is an answer to his question, so he may actually start a new thread with the same question!!?? ;D
I'M BACK!!!! (from my run to Kentucky!!)
THANX!!
Ernie
P.S.
Sorry, Gene!! I know that you thought that it was I, myself, that were a COLLEGE PROFESSOR. Actually, I did go to college, but soon learned that I could teach them nothing, so I left. Should they ever realize their need for the intellegince that they lack, it will be by another hand by which they must gain same! 8) GOOD DAY!!
THANX!!
Ernie
Hendersonville, NC
Yea, whatever. But to answer your question try this company:
http://precisioncraftmodels.com
If you have about $500 per engine and 2 years to wait for it you can get some really nice sound equiped engines. I bought one and I still never got it. The only reason I have it is because I found the only one the guy had at the Ye olde LHS (local hobby shop).
::)
Good Morning All,
With all due respect to all the responders to this post, I may be able to shed some light as to why the original poster has not come back. I contacted him off site about his question and found out he lives not too far from me. He thanked me for my time and answer and has been in touch since.