Hi, I brought up a similar issue a while back:
When I first registered with "ATB", I sort of expected it to be a place to ask direct questions about a Bachmann item or items such as : "Does the HO 2-8-0 come with blind drivers ?" Or, "Can I obtain an older,non-posted part for my N scale Shark Nose, Monon.....?" And then the Bach Man merely replies to these questions... For me, personally I wish it where that way...There are tons of MRRing forums (of which I belong to three, with ATB) where the larger bodied chats and How Tos are taken up, wheathering techniques, Can your Challenger be made into a Cab Forw........... ? But ATB seems to have to turned into this type forum, making it that more inundated with all sides of the hobby at once.. I may be as guilty as some of you. But only because it seems to have totally changed into a forum. Can, should this be remedied ? I, well-meaning, would like it to be the nuts and bolts type of site. What do you think ?
Mark
Not a big deal. The Bachmann forums have been like this as long as I have been in them.
Rich
...since the Age Of The Dinosaur...
I actually agree with Rich.
I see nothing wrong with the forum as is.
mark, haven't all questions you posted here regarding Bachmann products been answered? if so, what's wrong with having other railroad related discussions? to restrict this forum in the way you suggest would drive off most of the members.
The "forum " is the way it is because of the multiple disciplines that are involved in model railroading . No one aspect of the hobby is of paramount importance to every member on the forum. If you need specific information I suggest you subscribe to some of the many magazines on the subject and buy some of the many books available on specific subjects . John 2
I think the forum should stay the way it is. Model railroading includes all kinds of disciplines, using products from lots of manufacturers. To confine it to being just a question-and-answer place about one
particular manufacturer would narrow its usefulness considerably.
This is the Bachmann Forum, and naturally, questions and comments about Bachmann products are most appropriate here. I think this forum is very tolerant of mention of other manufacturers, and the rules concerning that are easy to live with.
One of the great strengths of model railroading is the compatibility of different products to be used together to build a realistic system. No one company can be expected to produce everything one would need. Companies that have tried this approach have not done well.
I think people seeking to share information about Bachmann products should find this forum to be most helpful in that regard. Problems with other builders' products are probably best addressed to their particular forum. Complaints about other builders' products are not allowed here, because those builders are not here to respond. One of the things we learn early-on in model railroading is who the best manufacturers are. Another is that quality is a trade off with price. There is a place in this hobby for low-priced, medium-priced, and high-priced products, as long as they perform well. The products that don't deliver what they promise are not around long.
Les
Yes, all of my questions about Bachmann products have mostly been answered. I simply mean that, due to so many many MRRing forums out there I thought that having the ATBman site condensed into direct questions and answers regarding just their products could/would expedite the location(s) of the Q&As and perhaps even in alphabetical order of the item name. HO (category), steam, then, say Alco, Alco/sound 0-6-0, 0-8-0, 2-6-0,.... N, Pennsy F8 , etc.. so that we can immediately find Qs & As about each one, real fast. This still would be created of yours, mine and Bachmann's suggestions, insights, stats, of a particular engine, car, control/tech or structure. Then, the more exotic, creative, things about model, layouts, scenery and real trains would still be over in the myriad of MRR forums out there. No biggy. Just an idea which has crossed my mind now and then. Makes no difference in the end I suppose. ....M
The forum is a place where our customers can contact with each other and discuss any and all topics relating to Bachmann products. It has been suggested in the past that we change the name and/or format but we think it is just fine the way it is.
Amen.
Chuck
Quote from: charon on May 17, 2014, 11:42:53 PM
Amen.
Chuck
These forums could easily be over run with questions about many other companies products if Bachmann did not run the forums the way they are now.
There are plenty of other forums for everything else. Some people are just afraid to branch out.
I belong to about twenty train forums and can find just about any answer I need.
The big plus is Google is my best friend.
Actually almost any search engine can be used if you do not need hand holding.
Rich
Rich, not sure what your getting at about "other companies' products". If a person writes/logs in asking a question about a Rivarossi (or unknown maker), brass, 2-8-2, B&O Camelback, Bachmann will immediately see this on their screen as " Not in BACH. files ". This person is then dropped from the forum until he/she does have a legit Bachmann product concern. They certainly can not log-in, for now at least, until they're referring to a real Bachmann item. No ? Mark
Mark Mark, Mark -
Your imagination is running away with you! I'm unaware of anyone who has had a post removed by management and his "account" destroyed because of a non-Bachmann question. Bachmann is a toy company, for crying out loud, not the NSA.
The truth is, the Bmann is pretty tolerant of us when it comes to asking questions about non-Bachmann products. Sure, they'll give us a reminder now in then when things go a bit too far, but they generally leave posts alone.
I'm wondering if you've had a bad experience with Bachmann lately. A significant number of your recent posts have been quite disparaging of the company as well as some of its products. I hope that doesn't interfere with your enjoyment of our hobby or the way you can use this board to learn more about it.
-- D
i have masde numerous references to other companies products over the years, and even refererred people to some web sites on here dealing with other companies. i have even roasted older bachmann products on here (though i really love the stuff they have released in the past 15 years or so.) have never had my account blocked during this time, and to my knowledge have only had t a couple of posts removed.
it's all in the way you say things. usually
Mark, sometimes references/questions about non-Bachmann train products are permitted to stay and sometimes they are wiped out before they gain any traction. The reasoning for what stays and what goes, does not appear to follow any kind of fact pattern, other than what is decided by the Overlords. As Doc stated, no one to my knowledge either, has lost their Board privileges for posting something about another product that ends up getting wiped away (for being nasty, yes, that can incur a "suspension").
Fear of having a question or product reference deleted, does not deter me from posting. Since I see the decision to keep it or toss it as arbitrary, I look at it as I have no way of knowing until after I post. Agree with Jeff, a lot is influenced by how statements are made.
Nobody has ever been "blocked" or "removed" from the forum unless they make trouble intentionally - although some folks tend to ride the fence a lot.....
Yardy,
I'm not riding the fence, I'm looking over it making sure Brock is still there ;D.
Still here ;)
TO ALL of my brethren in this thread, members, Administrators. Though I always do accept and respect everyone's replies to my threads/posts, please read my original thread starter. It is not about saying wrong or right within the Bachmann forum and still not be deleted, etc... It's about possibly redirecting ATB's aim or use of, if allowed or possible at all .. My head is not in a cloud. I just think out-of-the- box frequently. Why couldn't/shouldn't this be what ATB is for ? That's my thread's original topic and intent of the thread. No disturbance meant here. The fact that there very well are forums dedicated to all the facets of the hobby, why not then have this one the nuts and bolts Bachmann products alone ? See what I mean ?
But, as they used to say no that long ago: "It's all good !" Yeah, right, tell that to all the victims of terrorism..! Thanks again, Mark
As stated previously - the forum is not going to change. If you have specific questions about a product that are not answered here on the forum you can always call our service department.
Quote from: Yardmaster on May 20, 2014, 04:42:25 PM
Nobody has ever been "blocked" or "removed" from the forum unless they make trouble intentionally - although some folks tend to ride the fence a lot.....
I believe you are Chuck via Rich's calling you this. Anyway, I completely acknowledge and respect your informing me as how Bachmann wishes it to be. I certainly don't think my being in a forum constitutes my having any real say in this. It was meant in concern for, not a criticism of ATB at all (I own 3 HO Bach/sound engines and various cars. BTW, your new tanks look great ! Love those old 40 footers and way Bmann's cars roll/coast ! Makes one want to build a hump yard !).. I will remain compliant to ATB's choices of how he wants his forum behave...All questions/suggestions concerning it now are complete on this day and time...
Thanks once again to all who chimed in, Mark