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Title: Anouncemets?
Post by: Dusten Barefoot on July 11, 2007, 10:22:13 PM
When will the next announcements be on the board. Not ot be a pestersom bear, but it is now July and we all have been waiting.
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: the Bach-man on July 11, 2007, 11:35:53 PM
Dear All,
The announcements will be made this month at the NMRA show, and posted here that night.
Anticipate!
the Bach-man
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: Dusten Barefoot on July 12, 2007, 01:59:21 PM
I hate to be so worriesom, but I am anxious, and would like to know if you know what day it will be this month.
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: ksivils on July 12, 2007, 04:42:45 PM
July 22-July 28
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: azflyer2001 on July 12, 2007, 08:14:18 PM
Can you tell us if a locomotive might be announced or just more rolling stock? ;D

Travis
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: C.P.R.R. Manager on July 14, 2007, 01:21:08 PM
Blast it!  Just when the anticipation was wearing off, they pull me back in.
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: amdaylight on July 14, 2007, 03:23:49 PM
Quote from: C.P.R.R. Manager on July 14, 2007, 01:21:08 PM
Blast it!  Just when the anticipation was wearing off, they pull me back in.

That is why they call it marketing! ;D :D ;) :)

Andre

PS

I agree, I was beginning to burn out on the anticipation and they just threw more fuel on the fire. ;D
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: mmiller on July 14, 2007, 03:41:50 PM
wait...did I miss something?

is there something in particular we should be anticipating?
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: amdaylight on July 14, 2007, 03:49:28 PM
Quote from: mmiller on July 14, 2007, 03:41:50 PM
wait...did I miss something?

is there something in particular we should be anticipating?

Not any one thing or another, but just about every thing they have announced I have bought, hence the expectations. The only thing that I have passed on are the camp cars, they just did not meet my expectations. I went in another direction for my logging camp cars.

Andre :)
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: Hamish K on July 14, 2007, 08:23:58 PM
In a reply to a query I posted on the General Discussion board the Bach Man indicated that all remaining items, in all scales, that were expected by the end of the year would be announced at the NMRA show. Thus, if there is to be a new ON30 locomotive for 2007 it should be announced then. Just don't expect the Bachmann to give anything away before then!

Hamish
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: The Old Fardt on July 15, 2007, 01:19:28 AM
True the camp cars were not up to snuff. A lot of weathering does help but still !
Everything else made in On30 has been pretty good so hopefully any new rr stuff will be nice.  I can wait as there is no other choice.

Cheers,  tof
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: Royce Wilson on July 15, 2007, 01:32:16 PM
I am betting that the new locomotive will be a Mason Bogie wow!!!!! :o :o
                                                  Ok we are dreaming again........
                                                                                                   Royce Wilson
Title: Re: Anouncements?
Post by: ksivils on July 22, 2007, 12:03:24 AM
Well, we should hear something tomorrow sometime!
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: ebtnut on July 22, 2007, 11:07:46 AM
Actually, you should probably expect the announcement(s) to be posted on Friday night, since that is the first evening of the train show.
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: Dusten Barefoot on July 22, 2007, 02:20:06 PM
I'll  be dag on. I was hoping on the 22nd, ah well can't always get what you want.
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: wisemodserv on July 25, 2007, 11:56:03 PM
Hello All,

   Talked to Lee Riley breifly last night and He would not tell me anythin, but did say Friday would be like christmas morning for the On30 guys.  He said everyone should be really pleased!

  FYI We are also going to have about 30 new kits at the Narrow Gauge Convention.

Keith Wiseman
Wiseman Model Services 
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: ebtbob on July 26, 2007, 06:53:12 AM
Good Morning All,

      Based on soooo much of what has been said here and on other forums,  it would not surprise me if Bachmann announced a 4-4-0 engine.  After all,  they already offer them in large scale.
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: Sjack on July 26, 2007, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: wisemodserv on July 25, 2007, 11:56:03 PM

  FYI We are also going to have about 30 new kits at the Narrow Gauge Convention.

Keith Wiseman
Wiseman Model Services 

OK, I understand not getting out of Lee Riley, but no clues on your new offerings, Keith?
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: PHIL S on July 26, 2007, 05:54:44 PM
I noticed that Caboose Hobbies has listed six versions of the 4-4-0  in On30  along with part numbers, all manufactured by Bachmann. Are these the long awaited new announcements? or just speculation by Caboose Hobbies? More fuel for the fires of anticipation!
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: ksivils on July 26, 2007, 07:24:14 PM
Sure enough, Caboose Hobbies lists the 4-4-0 as Bachmann to be pre-ordered.  Kind of suprising considering MMI is also going to to a 4-4-0.

Will be interesting to see what happens!

Hopefully more than just one new item will be introduced for On30!
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: the Bach-man on July 26, 2007, 11:19:29 PM
Dear All,
The announcements are posted. Our 4-4-0 will be very similar to the Mt. Gretna Narrow Gauge locomotive that was built on-order by Baldwin in 1889. The order was place on 22 June, and the locomotive was delivered on 2 July, in time for the Independence Day celebration. Eight working days! Ours took longer!
I hope we'll have pictures soon. The samples are at the show.
Have fun!
the Bach-man
Title: Re: Anouncemets? New Wiseman Stuff
Post by: wisemodserv on July 26, 2007, 11:28:53 PM
  Here is part of the listing.

6 different versions of Willamette Donkey Engines.
D&RGW Derrick OP
D&RGW  OQ or Marion Steam Shovel
Eureka Mill 4 wheel Ore cars
Eureka Mill 4 wheel Flat cars
Water car and other small cars based on the smae design over the next year.
RGS PLow Flanger O2
A surveyers car which is a Flat Car/4 window passenger car. Really neat!
D&RGW 50,000 gallon Water tank
About 150 new white metal detail parts
Also about 25-30 HO and HOn3 kits as well including structures,rolling stock and  many HO detail castings.

  I am sure I forgot something.

We have cast over 300 pounds of pewter in the past month!! Been way too busy!

Keith
Wiseman Model Services
606-267-3466
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: mmiller on July 27, 2007, 01:32:55 AM
Quote from: the Bach-man on July 26, 2007, 11:19:29 PM
Dear All,
The announcements are posted. Our 4-4-0 will be very similar to the Mt. Gretna Narrow Gauge locomotive I hope we'll have pictures soon. The samples are at the show.
Have fun!
the Bach-man

for any of you that have some Narrow Gauge & Shortline Gazette's around there are some pictures of Mallory Ferrell's model of the Mt. Gretna 4-4-0 and a picture of the prototype...

not exactly what I'm interested in, but I hope that others will like it :-/

Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: hminky on July 27, 2007, 05:43:34 AM
Quote from: mmiller on July 27, 2007, 01:32:55 AM
Quote from: the Bach-man on July 26, 2007, 11:19:29 PM
Dear All,
The announcements are posted. Our 4-4-0 will be very similar to the Mt. Gretna Narrow Gauge locomotive I hope we'll have pictures soon. The samples are at the show.
Have fun!
the Bach-man

for any of you that have some Narrow Gauge & Shortline Gazette's around there are some pictures of Mallory Ferrell's model of the Mt. Gretna 4-4-0 and a picture of the prototype...

not exactly what I'm interested in, but I hope that others will like it :-/



Talk about off-beat prototypes, it is probably the worst looking narrow gauge 4-4-0 ever built. I just looked at the plans in the Model Railroader Steam Encyclopedia.

That will be a letdown to many people.

Harold
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: Dusten Barefoot on July 27, 2007, 08:15:05 AM
What about a 4-6-0? is that going to be next year? :-[ ??? :(, Well the 4-4-0 aint that bad looking, I like it, but B-mann did say it was simular, not all the same thing. We dont need to shoot Bachmann down in flames. :P
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: C.P.R.R. Manager on July 27, 2007, 08:42:39 AM
Personally, I'm hyped.  Once again, Bachmann has simplified my wife's Christmas shopping.  Now that I think about it, a few years ago, right after the Bachmann announcements for the upcoming year were made, I realized that since a 4-4-0 wasn't in that round of announcements, there wouldn't be one made for at least 2 years.  So, when I saw a good price on the Large Scale 4-4-0, I bought one, and it remains my only Large Scale purchase.  Looks great in the office.

Looking forward to the photos.
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: finderskeepers on July 27, 2007, 10:11:46 AM


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Talk about off-beat prototypes, it is probably the worst looking narrow gauge 4-4-0 ever built. I just looked at the plans in the Model Railroader Steam Encyclopedia.

That will be a letdown to many people.

Harold
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I thought it was odd to pick a 2' 4-4-0 as the prototype, I thought they would do something more central american, but I guess the forces of tiny won out on this one.
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: kendoitall on July 27, 2007, 11:49:02 AM
Quote from: finderskeepers on July 27, 2007, 10:11:46 AM



Talk about off-beat prototypes, it is probably the worst looking narrow gauge 4-4-0 ever built. I just looked at the plans in the Model Railroader Steam Encyclopedia.

That will be a letdown to many people.

Harold
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I thought it was odd to pick a 2' 4-4-0 as the prototype, I thought they would do something more central american, but I guess the forces of tiny won out on this one.
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According to some sources online, the Mt. Gretna had "the only 24-inch gauge 4-4-0s ever operated in North America."
http://www.tvwiki.tv/wiki/Mount_Gretna_Narrow_Gauge_Railway
I guess that explains the choice. As a freelance builder, it will do just fine with me though.

Ken
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: ASIANLIFE on July 27, 2007, 09:12:19 PM
I don't see too many happy faces concerning the 4-4-0 and it does seem a strange choice. The announcement actually referred to more news at the Chicago show in October, so we may still have something else,.

Having said that if I was Bachmann I would do all the announcements at this show especially at this time in the year to help the Christmas present list.
Title: Re: Anouncemets?
Post by: #94 on July 27, 2007, 11:34:24 PM
I will look forward to a photo of this 4-4-0 before condeming it.
Title: 4-4-0 - If I recall correctly, we were informed/warned long ago
Post by: ksivils on July 27, 2007, 11:43:00 PM
If memory serves me correctly, I recall Mr. Riley stating that only 30
inch prototypes would be produced in the future for the On30 line, or
at least locomotives that could reasonably have been produced as 30
inch gauge locomotives.

Forney's may be thought of primarily as 2ft. locomotives, but they
were made for 30 inch lines as well and certainly were in the realm of
possibilty to have been made as actual 30 inch locomotives if they
had not been produced as such (think sugar cane operations such as in Louisiana were there were 0-4-4s in service on 30 inch planation lines).

The announced 4-4-0 certainly fits the bill as described as per
Bachmann's stated policy. This would seem to be a catalog locomotive
designed for export or domestic use.

It would also allow Bachmann to produce a 4-4-0 and not compete with
the announced On3/On30 4-4-0 of a Rio Grande/Baldwin catalog
locomotive that was larger, thus allowing both companies to introduce
4-4-0s to their product line without losing market share for either one.

Thus, this locomotive would fit within the stated official policy as per the last two locomotives have.  The OF 2-8-0 was based on an actual 30 inch gauge locomotive and the 2-4-4s could certainly have been built to 30 inch gauge.

I wonder what one would look like with a cabbage stack?