Thanks for the info.
Any idea about the Climax?

David

Does anyone know if there is a noise suppression capacitor on these engines?
I am having a problem with the Phoenix sound on dcc and Phoenix thinks it could be a
Noise suppression capacitor causing the problem. I would hate to take the engine apart for nothing.

The sound works great stopped but I lose sound function control once I start to move the engine.

David

The problem was the Bachmann  wiring diagram is incorrect.
I had to wire the decoder direct to the motor and not through the
Connections shown on the diagram.  The fix is documentated
On Greg Elmassian's site.

David

Has anyone put a decoder in a rail truck?
I have tried digitrax, massoth and massoth m decoders with out
Any real success.  In all cases the motor goes from stop to full speed in 1 step, reacts real slow
And will not run reverse.  I tried to lower (cv 5) max speed but no change.
I have never had this problem with other engines.

Suggestions?

David

 

thanks.  I will do the same.
I also need to install a phoenix p8.
I don't think there is enought room in the coal box for the zimo & p8.
Will removing the weight cause a problem with traction?

David

I have installed a zimo decoder into the shay following the wiring diagram supplied
And all is well.  Does anyone see a problem with me leaving the smoke unit wired as is (dc diagram)
And using the manual switch to operate it.  That way the smoke unit cannot be turned
On by accident and run dry.  I would like to leave the function keys free for sound.


David

FYI:

I managed to come up with the wiring diagrams for this engine.

Looks like it won't be to hard to do the install.

David

Does anyone have information ie: wiring diagram for a Heisler?
I have one here and I need to put in a decoder and Phoenix sound.
The box says dcc ready. 
I am thinking a 3 amp zimo should work.
Not worried about the Phoenix card. That should be a snap.

Thanks,
David

Problem fixed.  I have not seen a set up like this before. Pretty basic.
I even see it on the drawing now that I know what it looks like.
I was right the sensor was defective. Once I re soldered the blue wires to the copper
Strips and realigned the 3 sets of points. (1 set had been stuck closed) all
Seems to work fine. Just my luck to get one with stuck points.

Thanks for you help,
David

Thanks Mike.  I will take a look and if it looks like too much trouble I will set the
Card to auto only.  The fellow who owns it will be running analog.

David 

I have connected all the wires as per the Phoenix sheets.
The blue wires are connected to the Phoenix board and it does not work.
That is why I think there may be a problem with the sensor.
Do you know where the sensor is located?
The sensor and blue wires are not shown on the bachmanm sheets.
David

I must be explaining this poorly.  Every thing is connected where it should be.
You are only using the wires labeled speaker red and white in the bunker cutting them from the board and
Connecting them to the blue chuff wires and going to the tender and connecting the two speaker wires
Orange and green to the chug terminals. These instructions are posted on the Phoenix site.

David

Has anyone had trouble with the sensor?
Where is it and how do I get to it?

Sorry. I guess you have not read the instruction sheet on the phoenix site.
You connect the two blue (chuff) wires to the two speaker wires red and white
in the bunker.  that extends the chuff wires to the tender.
then you install the phoenix card and speaker in the tender and connect the chuff wires. My belief is that there is something wrong with the chuff sensor.

David

I did connect the two blue wires to the speaker wires (red &white) in the bunker to transfer them to the orange & green in the tender, as per the Phoenix instructions.  The card is ok.  I have installed dozens
Of Phoenix cards before.  Just never in a bachmanm unit.  I though I read somewhere that some time
The sensor on these units need to be cleaned.  I am not even sure where it is.  I cannot see the blue wires or sensor on the engine documentation.

David

I have tried to add a phoenix sound card as per the instructions
on their site.  Analog operation. I don't seem to have any luck getting the chuff's to work.
I connected the two blue wires in the bunker. no responce.
The card is working but no cuffing.

Any suggestions?

thanks,
David