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Title: value of backmann dewitt clinton and John Bull
Post by: jdedonato on February 19, 2008, 04:50:47 PM
I have a dewitt clinton in box (box is worn) with item # 40-130. I could not find it on item# search. Is this one considered viontage or worth more than the one you can buy brand new? Curious of these trains hold value. I have a John Bull set as well in box (much better box condition)

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: value of backmann dewitt clinton and John Bull
Post by: SteamGene on February 19, 2008, 06:47:52 PM
I'd buy a newer one before I'd buy an older one.  Nice looking.  Great history lesson.  Crappy motor in the early ones.  The newer ones probably benefit from new technology.
Gene
Title: Re: value of backmann dewitt clinton and John Bull
Post by: Conrail Quality on February 19, 2008, 08:03:32 PM
As a general rule of thumb, plastic HO models rarely apprechiate in value- quite the opposite in fact (Brass is a whole different story). There are a few individual exceptions, but that's usually when it is a model of an obscure prototype that is no longer produced. The Dewitt Clinton and John Bull don't fit this, so you can probably expect at the very most about half the retail price.

Timothy
Title: Re: value of backmann dewitt clinton and John Bull
Post by: r0bert on February 19, 2008, 11:47:33 PM
both sets sell new street price around 45-50 dollars
john bull
http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/catalog/?function=detail&id=15 (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/catalog/?function=detail&id=15)
dewitt clinton
http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/catalog/?function=detail&id=16 (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/catalog/?function=detail&id=16)
LaFayette
http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/catalog/?function=detail&id=14 (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/catalog/?function=detail&id=14)
Title: Re: value of backmann dewitt clinton and John Bull
Post by: bevernie on February 20, 2008, 07:25:38 PM
 :DFor a really EXPERT analysis and opinion as concerning the value of virtually ANYTHING, it can be found on EBAY!! Of course, even there, you have to be careful, because there are sometimes collectors who just HAVE to have something and they'll pay more than it is worth!
                                                                                              THANX!!
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Title: Re: value of backmann dewitt clinton and John Bull
Post by: James Hail on February 21, 2008, 04:42:16 PM
The new versions of these classics ARE much better.........Skewed pole armatures in the motors.

Lets em run more scale.(read SLOW)
Jim
Title: Re: value of backmann dewitt clinton and John Bull
Post by: rogertra on February 21, 2008, 07:26:36 PM
I have to ask but what's a "backmann dewitt clinton and john bull"?

Title: Re: value of backmann dewitt clinton and John Bull
Post by: jayl1 on February 21, 2008, 07:46:29 PM
Roger,
They are HO models of very early locomotives & passenger cars.
J
Title: Re: value of backmann dewitt clinton and John Bull
Post by: rogertra on February 21, 2008, 09:44:09 PM
Oh, you mean a 'Bachmann' 'Dewitt Clinton' and a 'John Bull'?

Because there's no such thing as a "backmann dewitt clinton and john bull"?

And "Yes", I'm being a smart arse.
Title: Re: value of backmann dewitt clinton and John Bull
Post by: ta152h0 on February 22, 2008, 10:01:50 PM
Mr BachMan is gonna remember you from now on
Title: Re: value of backmann dewitt clinton and John Bull
Post by: rogertra on February 22, 2008, 11:18:43 PM
I make it quite clear that I'm a great fan of Bachmann Spectrum steam. 

I can't comment on Spectrum diesels as I don't own any.

I can comment on what is now known as the Bachmann "Standard" line, aka, "Botchmann".
Title: Re: value of backmann dewitt clinton and John Bull
Post by: SteamGene on February 23, 2008, 07:36:49 AM
Roger, the new Standard line is quite nice. I have one of their Kanawhas and two of the 0-6-0s and they are all fine runners and pullers.
Gene
Title: Re: value of backmann dewitt clinton and John Bull
Post by: ta152h0 on February 23, 2008, 02:33:05 PM
I was only commenting on your smarty pants comment. that is all.  Actually something i do when we have family gatherings. my mother has called me things in german I never heard before.
Title: Re: value of backmann dewitt clinton and John Bull
Post by: ta152h0 on February 23, 2008, 03:14:33 PM
I have a John Bull that runs on Bachmann EZ track and i really enjoy watching the beast go round and round. fun to watch and imagine what it was like back when  I don't know what the dollar value is for I am passing it on to my descendants when the time comes..