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Title: Shay with bumper problem
Post by: Bill B on March 05, 2012, 01:55:43 PM
I have a Bachmann Shay with the original trucks. The couplers hit the front and rear bumpers. How do I fix this problem. The model has been in a dis[lay and I was going to run it but it has broken both bumpers.

Bill :(
Title: Re: Shay with bumper problem
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on March 05, 2012, 02:38:15 PM
Bill,
Can you describe the problem better, looking at my shay I am not sure what a bumper is.
Title: Re: Shay with bumper problem
Post by: Jon D. Miller on March 05, 2012, 04:48:25 PM
I have three Shay locomotives.  None have a bumper on the front or the rear.

(http://www.largescaleonline.com/eimages/lsolpics/Team_Member_Pics/jlsrails/Bachmann_Three_Truck_Shay/100_1858.jpg)

Pictured is the three truck version. It has no bumpers.  The motor blocks on all the Shay locomotives are the same.  The exception would be that the early versions have plastic motor blocks.  Later versions have metal motor blocks.  However, coupler mounting is the same on all versions.

JD
Title: Re: Shay with bumper problem
Post by: Bill B on March 06, 2012, 12:08:24 PM
It is just below the coupler. It might be a place to stand. The coupler shank hits the plastic cross part under the coupler shank on both ends. The picture shows it under the coupler and just almost touching the rail.
Title: Re: Shay with bumper problem
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on March 06, 2012, 02:16:43 PM
Try repairing the steps. It may be possible to use a very thin piece of styrene to reinforce the broken part. 5 minute epoxy works well for me as does JB Weld.
Title: Re: Shay with bumper problem
Post by: Jon D. Miller on March 06, 2012, 05:25:33 PM
Bill B.
OK, now I understand. You are making reference to the locomotive's foot boards.  That bumper thing had me wondering.

The coupler does set close to the foot board.  I've never had a problem with any of the Shays hitting the foot boards.  Are you sure the coupler shank mounting screw, where it attaches to the motor block, is tight?

JD
Title: Re: Shay with bumper problem
Post by: az2rail on March 06, 2012, 07:26:11 PM
How tight of curve are you trying to go around? You may be trying to make it go around a curve tighter than it was designed for.

Bruce
Title: Re: Shay with bumper problem
Post by: Bill B on March 08, 2012, 04:39:03 PM
The screws are tight. I am not turning the truck it simply hits the foot board. Lowering the foot board more than about 1/8 inch will cause it to drag.
Title: Re: Shay with bumper problem
Post by: Bill B on March 08, 2012, 04:42:00 PM
On Feb 22 2007 another person had the problem.
Title: Re: Shay with bumper problem
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on March 08, 2012, 05:33:33 PM
Strange, I wish I could see it happening, I have two and never had the problem. Is the problem the same on both ends of the loco?  It there any possibility that it is the coupler that is broken or defective in some way?

Title: Re: Shay with bumper problem
Post by: Mike M on March 08, 2012, 08:48:38 PM
I have 7 shays --2 are the 38 ton -3 are the 36 ton and 2 are the 55 ton 3 truck
I have never had a problem as discribed. I aslo have run them on 4' curves
Mike
Title: Re: Shay with bumper problem
Post by: Sleeping Bear on March 09, 2012, 10:39:19 AM
 This may be a dumb question but are the draw bars and couplers installed correctly ? From looking at pictures and parts breakdowns it seems to me if either were installed upside down or incorrect things would hang lower and thus make contact, but as I don't have one I cant say for sure....but the first things I would check....hope this helps....Later All.....S.B.
Title: Re: Shay with bumper problem
Post by: SantaFe158 on March 14, 2012, 08:02:00 PM
I managed to snap both of the footboards on mine when it snagged the track power wire.  I made a new one for the front out of small strips of wood glued to look about like the original plastic one and painted black.  A couple dabs of hot glue hold it onto the front of the locomotive.  It's an older 36 ton Ely Thomas #5 with the plastic footboards.
Title: Re: Shay with bumper problem
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on March 14, 2012, 09:45:47 PM
On my 38 ton shay the coupler bar is screwed to the truck frame. if this gets loose the coupler will droop.  A little locktite on the screw should lift the bar up to normal level and keep it there.  It is also possibe to put a shim between the coupler bar and the lower part of the truck bolster, which would keep it from drooping.

I would say that if the screw is tight and the coupler is still too low then the problem is definitely the coupler or the drawbar
Title: Re: Shay with bumper problem
Post by: Dave on March 15, 2012, 03:31:03 AM
Mike,
      You have more Shay's than I have Locomotives!
Title: Re: Shay with bumper problem
Post by: Mike M on March 15, 2012, 09:30:08 AM
it's like an addiction I like the shay. Wish Bachmann would come out with the 12 ton shay
Mike