OK, now that the Elephant engine (cant get much bigger than a K-27 ;) ) has been delivered, is B'mann going to next do more of a Dove in comparison?
Seams to me thats a pattern, we had the Railtruck, then the 3 truck Shay, then the revamped Porter, now the K, so that indicates to me something a tad smaller should be next on the Storks delivery schedule.
So can you give us any kind of hint as to what this years big announcement will be, or when it will be announced, even just the words, Big or Little, will suffice ;D
I'm really hoping for something like a small Forney or a Mason Bogie or something friendly to the R1's on my tight little mining layout. Please dont forget about us, theres still a few of us out here. :o
What I would really drool over would be a 0-4-4 Porter like those used on the Arizona Copper Company RR. :o
Dear Vic,
I'll tell you as soon as I can- probably at one of the summer conventions...
Anticipate!
the Bach-man
I'd still like to see a T-boiler in large scale
Before Kevin and Matthew say it, put me down for an EBT Mikado.
But of course, you already know that, B'mann!
Lee
I'm still anticipating that ventilated boxcar in Fn3 :)
Jerry
How about a cute little C&S Mogul to show LGB how it should really be done?
I have to admit, a C&S mogul would be pretty cool, or a Waynesburg & Washington mogul (after the EBT Mikado, naturally!) I still think the market's ripe for an inside-frame C-19 (or similar) 2-8-0. Heck, I might even take one of those before the EBT mikado.
So far as rolling stock goes, now that AMS has brought out their J&S coach, I'd love to see Bachmann offer some kind of an alternative. As much as I'd like to see an EBT prototype, I can't help but to think something along the lines of the ET&WNC's elegant closed-vestibule coaches with their arched window groups would make GREAT candidates. They had a business car and RPO built to the the same plans, so a great-looking train could be assembled. It would definitely be a different look to what AMS released. (Though I wouldn't argue in the least with an EBT prototype--just not combine #18 - I already built that one. Maybe one of the ex-BRB&L cars? Do coach #8, and then the M-1 to pull it!)
For freight equipment, keep the "modern" theme started with the tank cars going with the EBT's steel box car. Those outside braces are so visually different from any wood box car on the market.
Ain't speculation fun?
Happy Easter!
Later,
K
On Easter morning I am reminded of the old saying "What came first, the chicken or the egg - who cares as long as the EBT mike is next!" At least that is how I remember it. :P
Since I am posting I will add my $.02
I think that the EBT 2-6-2 #11 would be a perfect fit for bachmann. The engine would fit in perfectly on a railroad running bachmann 4-6-0s. They obviously have the "family resemblence", they are small and could make 4' diameter curves, plus they would look good pulling 1:20.3 or 1:22.5 rolling stock. I really think that engine would be a winner with everyone not just ebt fans.
And one other thing I think is lacking in the 1:20.3 market is a snow plow! I just think the aristo one is ugly - plus its 1:29, if bachmann built a plow, I promise to buy one!
Happy Easter!
Matt
Quote from: leftyfretguy on March 23, 2008, 01:29:35 PM
I think that the EBT 2-6-2 #11 would be a perfect fit for bachmann. The engine would fit in perfectly on a railroad running bachmann 4-6-0s. They obviously have the "family resemblence", they are small and could make 4' diameter curves, plus they would look good pulling 1:20.3 or 1:22.5 rolling stock.
Number 11 is actually far closer to the B'mann 2-8-0 than the 4-6-0. The tender is almost exactly the same size, as is the boiler diameter and total wheelbase. The cab would be around 1/4" narrower, but just as tall. Note that #12 (the mikado) was essentially #11 with a 4th driving axle, so it would be right about the same size--just longer. I'd be a bit concerned with how it would look with the 1:22 equipment based on the fact that it would be visually just as massive as the 2-8-0.
Don't get me wrong--I'd be ecstatic with a #11, too (though that would definitely render my 5-year quest for proper 48" drivers a waste of time) but in terms of product offerings, my thoughts lead me to think that I could do #12 (then nos. 14 and 15) as one "size" of locomotive, and do something smaller like the C&S or W&W mogul as a smaller size offering to appeal to those who want smaller locos. Number 11 is a great compromise if I were looking to offer one or the other, but if offering both over time is an option, I'd go that route instead.
Later,
K
I never realized 11 was that big. I have not seen that many pictures of her to get a size comparison. Thanks for the info!
But I still believe we need a snow plow Mr Bachmann! (after the ebt mike of course) ;D
Matt
I just hope whatever is next will work on my indoor layout, thats why I would hope for something smaller next time out. The K is a real beauty but its completely beyond my current means both layout and cost wise. :(
Ok, since we're putting in .02 cents, here's mine. Bachmann already has the trucks for the shay and climax. What would be so difficult to produce a flat car with a vertical boiler, water tank, and wood fuel bunker and a choice of full length roof or shortened with either 2 cylinders on the side for a shay, or in the center for a climax?
Sounds like a natural to me. I'll take one of each!
Back to the C&S Mogul -
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/banjocharley/acsmoguldrawing.jpg)
With apologies to Southern Steam Trains who are Aster dealers (this image appears on their site.) This engine has such charming proportions and if needed, the beartrap were removed and the air tank moved it could "play well" with a lot of layouts.
I could also browse e-bay and not think "those dad-gumed LBGer's really didn't do that one justice" every time I see one of their toy Moguls up for sale.
I am still voting for a spectrum 1:20.3 10 wheeler
Well, I might as well throw in my 2 cents worth:
1 a 1:20.3 class A Climax
2 a 4-4-0 and a 4-6-0 in both 1890 ( st boiler, fluted domes, wood cab, wood tender, balloon stack ) and 1910 ( tapered boiler, round domes, steel cab, coal tender, st stack ) design sharing a lot of parts to keep production costs down and in a size that would look good in both 1:22.5 and 1:20.3 ( something like the old FED HOn3 brass engines from our youth, B-Man )
3 1:22.5 pulp wood cars ( like the new On30 ones )
4 a 2 pack of 1:22.5 flat cars in narrow gauge names and 2 different numbers
5 an EBT tank car in 1:22.5 and some other 1:22.5 cars ( a few each year ) in different NG road names
and before someone jumps in and says no one buys 1:22.5 any more, well your wrong. Alot of people still do and don't need or want the finer detail of the 1:20.3 items.
Stay narrow minded
Wade
Hmmm.....at first I was partial to an inside frame 2-8-0 (C-16, 17, 18 or 19) but the "Connie" is still being advertised so...... Y'know, that C&S #22 is one sweet locomotive! The more I look at it the more I like it! It might just be time for a Spectrum Mogul in Fn3! Hmmmm..........
Here is a photo of #22
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/banjocharley/00006059.jpg)
I'd second That! A C&S Mogul or the D.S.P.&.P. one. Well, the C&S moguls ARE the same as the South Park engines. The C&S just Rebuilt them after aquireing the South Park.
Now I'll throw this into the Wind. Now that Bachmann has realeased its K-27, what about a K-28! Although I'm quite taken with the K-27s, but my heart and soul belongs to the K-28. Especially the #473 in the "Bumble Bee" scheme.
And for those who don't know, THE BOX HEADLIGHT AND DIMOND STACK ARE PART OF THE SCHEME, EVEN IN 1951!!! I just had to say that cause' I'm sick and tired of people saying it was "Tourist Crap".
Any way, It would be nice to see Bachmann produce theme. Plus the D&RGW was NOT the only RR that used the engines! A railroad in Hawii used a few as well. The Owahu Rwy & Land Co. I think it was.
I would love to see the Colorado and Southern mogul in 1:20.3 spectrum! I've always loved the LGB model, and the locomotive itself, but LGB is 1:22.5, and I need 1:20.3! :(
Has a 3 truck shay and a 2-4-2 from aristocraft (which I still need to modify). The 2-4-2 "Ginn Linn" is used for the mine, and the shay "Stepney", is used for the Yellow Pine Lumber Co. So, I still need a locomotive for the my road engine, and a 2-6-0 would be perfect!
I also agree with Mr. Gunslinger87 with the K28 thing. I love the K28s.. and while it would require me to widen my curves, I still would get this beautiful locomotive!
But if I had to pick between the two........ I would have to say the mogul.. that is a wonderful locomotive, and I'd love to have it on the Yellow Hills Central
CSLM
CSLM
The K-28 #473 is my favorite locomotive of all time! Hence why I've based my #14 "Comanche" of my Gupowder Falls RR.
Its acctually based off of a Comic I'm working on. Any way, If Bachmann makes another "large" locomotive for their next release I vote for the K-28. But if its a Smaller engine, a C&S or DSP&P Mogul is what should be next.
Okay, just thought of this last night. What about a Spectrum 4-6-0? I know the anniversery version is "spectrum quality", but how about a real spectrum? eh? (I personally would like to obtain one and place a huge saddle tank on it ;D)
CSLM
We need a 1:20.3 small Baldwin logging mallet, such as number 126, the 2-4-4-2 "Skookum". No doubt about it. A natural also for the various versions.
Don't forget the C-16.
C &S done to death by L*B & Aster. How about W & W no4; still with us and rather pretty.
http://www.narrowtracks.com/wwrr/WW4.htm
http://www.narrowtracks.com/wwrr/WW4Photos.htm
http://www.narrowtracks.com/wwrr/Restoring4.htm
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/F72001.cfm
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We are talking 1:20.3 electric, not live steam and not toy. C&S Spectrum Mogul would hit a new audience (How many of you are running Spectrum K's next to LGB Moguls?)
While I think the Cooke engine would be great I cannot deny that an affordable 1/22.5~1/20.3 C-16 would also have great appeal.
Lets face facts, even if reissued, at 1/24 the Aristo C-16 still will always look like a small plantation engine next to even an Annie!
Now Mr. Bachmann, whats all this conjecture about a SP "Little Giant" I've been reading about? :o
Nevermind, I found the OP ;)
Regarding the discussion about what is coming next from Bachmann: I would say the LGB moguls look great (although not 1:20.3) and always run great. EBT comes in strong. BUT why do we always seem to overlook California's own narrow gauge, the Carson and Colorado/SP narrow gauge line? You could even have steam AND diesel. Their last three steamers were 4-6-0s, oil burners. So, why not?
Howard
I guess that I am one of the few that likes smaller locos. I am looking at two Fn3 Bachmann Porters as I type this.
A small Baldwin (upsize the old Lynn/2-4-2T) or Glover would be interesting......
I would tend to agree that the C&S moguls are well covered.
How about a nice Brooks built mogul with inclined (slanted) slide valves like the Quincy Mining Co engines?
I do like the idea of a 50 ton GE and it would be nice to see a industrial type 45 tonner with articulated trucks used by so many of the narrow gauge tourist operations
I agree with SameVans and Kevin. W&W Mogul! Then I won't have to cut up another Annie!
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/carpentermatt/painted%20mogul%20007%20rs.jpg)
The plus side for producing this is that it could be lettered W&W R.R. or Pennsylvania both would be correct seeing that P.R.R. bought out the W&W R.R. just like they did the Ohio River and Western. Which eventually the P.R.R. sent OR&W rolling stock to the W&W R.R.
Builders Photo of 1st #4. 2nd #4 resides at the Green County Historical society in Waynesburg. There are also good drawings in Three Feet on the Panhandle which has been reprinted! ;D
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/carpentermatt/train.jpg)
I agree with either the C&S #22 or C-19, of course you could always forward the K series too.
As far as rolling stock is concerned: Stock Cars, High Side Gons, Short and long cabooses and reefers, as well as MOW cars. OK, so I want all of it!!! Who doesn't. ;D
A small mogul is a great idea! I used the Annie as a basis for making a 1:20 one, but I'd love to have one with the same level of detail as the K27.
(http://www.jbrr.com/assets/images/IMG_2662.JPG)
Bruce,
If you are unhappy with the level of detail on your mogul, I would be happy to take it off your hands.
As usual, great work Bruce, and thanks for sharing the pic.
Chuck
Thanks, Chuck. I put a bit of light weathering on it and I like the look even better.
(http://www.lscdata.com/users/thejoat/LayoutShots/2008/IMG_3947.JPG)
That'd be a nice little model...just keep the Ele simple, Please!
cale
I would just like to see something that isn't a colorado prototype. Not slighting Colorado, but there were a great number of narrow gauge railroads that were not in Colorado. Here in California, there was the South Pacific Coast, North Pacific Coast, Pacific Coast, Southern Pacific NG (aka Carson & Colorado), Nevada County NG, Lake Tahoe RY, the NCO, Hetch Hetchy and Yosemite Valley, Bodie and Benton, as well as dozens more...and then there are the logging railroads: Westside Lumber, Diamond and Caldor, the Michigan-California Lumber Co, Elk River Lumber Company, Madera Sugar Pine, Swayne Lumber Company, etc, etc. The Carter Bros. were a huge builder of narrow gauge equipt (of which some still exists and could be used as a prototype) and as such, built rolling stock and passenger cars for DOZENS of railroads (the closest thing to a 'standard' piece of narrow gauge equipt). Just change lettering and you can have correct the prototype (give or take) for numerous roads.
How about a Carter Bros ventilated box car? (used on at least the SPC and NPC)
How about a 4-4-0 painted for the NPC Sonoma (on display at the Calif State RR Museum)
At the same time, the CSRRM has a Pacific Coast caboose and two SPng freight cars (a Carter Bros box and a oil tank car), a West Side Lumber/Swayne Lumber skeleton log car, a Carter Bros combine for the Monterey & Salinas Valley, a coach from the Nevada Central, as well as a 2-6-0 for the Nevada Central and a 0-4-2 Vulcan for the Mattole Lumber Co. Need photos or dimensions, being a member, I can get them for you.
While I appreciate Colorado ng, don't forget to think about the ng railroads that were outside of the box (get it, Colorado is square like a box...ok sorry). Just a reminder that there is more to ng than Colorado, and I believe that others feel the same way I do. Give me something...else every now and then.
You can put me down for a NPC Sonoma, or anything for the SPng (already have the box car...thanks! but how about an engine to pull it?), or Westside (again, thanks for the Shay!)
Other than this, keep up the great work!