Does anyone know when anything about Oliver will be released?
Prototype pics? Price? Release date? (I know it was pushed back a bit)
Been waiting ages now I'm really excited but I just wanna know.
Pictures will be released when Bachmann is ready to put them out. Price has not been announced. Date, all we know is 2016.
For now, the holiday focus is Skarloey and his wagons. :)
I knew that haha :P Hope they are ready soon tho.
Yep Skarloey :D Can't wait! :D
I do believe that Skarloey and the Mail Car - Green is all that to be release this year (2015). Oliver and Toad, from what I have heard, have a release date for somepoint next year (2016).
I'm just hoping that it's early next year that Oliver comes out haha
Honestly, I don't expect Oliver to be out until the summer of 2016 since that is usually when delayed products are usually released, such as the red coaches coming out this summer when they were announced last year. Toad might be out earlier than Oliver, but a rep just confirmed that he will still be due next year.
However, I would expect pictures to be in the 2016 catalog in February, which doesn't seem like that long from now. His price should also be listed by then too, but I believe one site has him listed for the same price as 'Arry and Bert. Toad's retail price is $37.00.
Edit: here is the shop that shows Oliver's (reduced) price if you wish to order him early: http://www.trainsetsonly.com/page/TSO/PROD/160-58815
Aw thanx but I'm ordering from the u.k
I'm soooooooooo excited though, I hope he's better than the hornby Oliver I have!
Quote from: Chloe Amy on December 08, 2015, 07:56:14 PM
Aw thanx but I'm ordering from the u.k
I'm soooooooooo excited though, I hope he's better than the hornby Oliver I have!
I am a UK residnet as well, Chloe. I can't see the new Bachmann Oliver being better than the Hornby Oliver. I have Hornby Oliver, and it has a lot of nice detail on it. There are a lot of nice seperate-fitted handrails on it. Bachmann do not fit these to either of their Thomas & Friends ranges, so I cannot see now how Bchmann Oliver could be better than the Hornby Oliver.
True but he might be faster than the hornby one
Quote from: Chloe Amy on December 09, 2015, 11:49:51 AM
True but he might be faster than the hornby one
He may run faster, but in all honestly, I know that the Hornby Oliver will be better, as it has seperate handrails on it and we know that Bachmann do not fit detail like that to their Thomas & Friends Locomotives.
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on December 09, 2015, 12:04:19 PM
He may run faster, but in all honestly, I know that the Hornby Oliver will be better, as it has seperate handrails on it and we know that Bachmann do not fit detail like that to their Thomas & Friends Locomotives.
How could you possibly know the Hornby model is going to be better than the Bachmann model when a picture of the Bachmann model hasn't been up yet? ::) Seperate handrails or not, it's too soon to tell which model is going to be better than the other.
Quote from: Chaz on December 09, 2015, 12:42:55 PM
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on December 09, 2015, 12:04:19 PM
He may run faster, but in all honestly, I know that the Hornby Oliver will be better, as it has seperate handrails on it and we know that Bachmann do not fit detail like that to their Thomas & Friends Locomotives.
How could you possibly know the Hornby model is going to be better than the Bachmann model when a picture of the Bachmann model hasn't been up yet? ::) Seperate handrails or not, it's too soon to tell which model is going to be better than the other.
The Hornby Thomas & Friends Locomotives look better too me, as Hornby add more detail than Bachmann do, so I know the Hornby Oliver will be better than the Bachmann Oliver. The problem I find with the Bachmann Thomas & Friends products is that led is used in the paint, which makes their products too shiney looking and too me, that spoils the look of the product too me. Hornby do not use this, and that is what I prefer. The Hornby Thomas & Friends range is a bit more grown, as extra detail like seperate handrails are fitted too most of the Locomotives and no leaded paint is used, unlike the Bachmann Thomas & Friends range.
Yeah but at least they actually look like the tv series models lol
Quote from: Chloe Amy on December 09, 2015, 01:38:06 PM
Yeah but at least they actually look like the tv series models lol
That is an advantage of the Bachmann Thomas & Friends range, but the Hornby Thomas & Friends range are based on how they would look in real life, and that is what I prefer personally.
Y are you on a bachmann thomas thread then haha
Quote from: Chloe Amy on December 09, 2015, 01:53:19 PM
Y are you on a bachmann thomas thread then haha
I am collector of Thomas & Friends in OO and HO Gauge. My collection is mainly based off the Hornby range which is what I prefer, but I also like the Bachmamn Thomas & Friends range and do have some Locomotives, Coaches and Wagons in this range too.
Cool I think I want to get hornby engines too, just so I can best of both worlds lol
Quote from: Chloe Amy on December 09, 2015, 02:01:06 PM
Cool I think I want to get hornby engines too, just so I can best of both worlds lol
Which Locomotives do you have then, if you don't me asking?
I have hornby:
oliver
stepney
and then bachmann:
thomas
james
diesel
bill & ben
douglas
duck
edward
you? :)
Quote from: Chloe Amy on December 09, 2015, 02:58:20 PM
I have hornby:
oliver
stepney
and then bachmann:
thomas
james
diesel
bill & ben
douglas
duck
edward
you? :)
Nice collection Chloe.
I have:
Hornby:
Thomas
Thomas (From the Thomas & The Great Discovery Train Set)
Thomas 70th Anniversary Limited Edition (Pre-Ordered ahead of it's release in the new year)
Edward
Henry
Gordon
James
Percy
Toby
Duck
Oliver
Stepney
Bill
Ben
Devious Diesel
'Arry
Bert
Diesel
Diesel D7101 Hymek
Flying Scotsman (Thomas)
Emily
Spencer
Murdoch
Dart
Bachmann:
Mavis (With Moving Eyes)
Salty (With Moving Eyes)
Donald (With Moving Eyes)
Douglas (With Moving Eyes)
So cool!!
Quote from: Chloe Amy on December 09, 2015, 03:37:42 PM
So cool!!
Do you have any Thomas & Friends Rolling Stock from Bachmann and / or Hornby?
Yep I have:
hornby:
annie & clarabel
s.c ruffey
greyish brown troublesome trucks (the ones with the painted faces on, not the plastic faced ones)
a greyish brown van (with painted face)
then bachmann:
s.c ruffey
troublesome trucks 1 2 & 3
you?
Quote from: Chloe Amy on December 09, 2015, 04:11:57 PM
Yep I have:
hornby:
annie & clarabel
s.c ruffey
greyish brown troublesome trucks (the ones with the painted faces on, not the plastic faced ones)
a greyish brown van (with painted face)
then bachmann:
s.c ruffey
troublesome trucks 1 2 & 3
you?
I have all of the Coaches and Wagons in the Hornby Thomas & Friends range.
Bachmann Thomas & Friends Rolling Stock:
76038 Red Coach (x2)
76039 Red Brake Coach
76041 Spencer's Special Coach
76042 Emily's Coach
76043 Emily's Brake Coach
77020 Troublesome Truck #4
77025 Troublesome Truck #3
77026 Ventilated Van (x3)
77028 Henrietta
77029 Coal Wagon with Load (x3)
77031 Well Wagon
77043 Cargo Car (x3)
77045 Brake Van
Awesome :D
I need to get new cab railings for my hornby oliver but I'm not sure where :(
Quote from: Chloe Amy on December 09, 2015, 04:42:23 PM
Awesome :D
I need to get new cab railings for my hornby oliver but I'm not sure where :(
Do you know where to get Murdoch?
No, how come?
Murdoch? Haha you'll be lucky. He very rarely appears for sale on eBay and when he does it is at astronomical prices.
Quote from: Chloe Amy on December 09, 2015, 04:42:23 PM
Awesome :D
I need to get new cab railings for my hornby oliver but I'm not sure where :(
I don't think you can get them. Hornby Oliver is rare and hard to get as completed model, never mind spare parts. Try going to Hornby.com, and the Customer Services section.
Quote from: Thomasfan39 on December 09, 2015, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: Chloe Amy on December 09, 2015, 04:42:23 PM
Awesome :D
I need to get new cab railings for my hornby oliver but I'm not sure where :(
Do you know where to get Murdoch?
Hornby Murdoch has been discontinued for sometime now. You would lucky getting one now. New ones are going for about £400.00 on eBay and even used ones are going for around £200.00 or more.
Quote from: Titanic5972 on December 09, 2015, 05:05:51 PM
Murdoch? Haha you'll be lucky. He very rarely appears for sale on eBay and when he does it is at astronomical prices.
I agree.
Jacob, I gotta be honest with you but I disagree with you completely on something.
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on December 09, 2015, 12:58:27 PM
The Hornby Thomas & Friends Locomotives look better too me, as Hornby add more detail than Bachmann do, so I know the Hornby Oliver will be better than the Bachmann Oliver.
This may be your personal preference, but the thing is, just because the Hornby Oliver has those details you keep bringing up that doesn't make it better or worse than the Bachmann model. You don't even know what the Bachmann Oliver looks like, (nobody does) so why are you already claiming that the Hornby model is better? If you have your own taste that's perfectly fine, but what is not sitting down well on my end is you are claiming that you know that the Hornby model is better than the Bachmann model with no evidence to support this claim because there is no photo of the Bachmann model.
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on December 09, 2015, 12:58:27 PM
The Hornby Thomas & Friends range is a bit more grown as extra detail like seperate handrails are fitted too most of the Locomotives and no leaded paint is used, unlike the Bachmann Thomas & Friends range.
How exactly is Hornby "more grown" than Bachmann? When I last checked both ranges have produced a decent number of models, Hornby probably produced more but this is because they have been in production for longer and it doesn't take them very long to make their models compared to Bachmann who has to start from scratch.
I am not saying that Hornby is a bad range by any means but I honestly don't think it's fair to compare both of the ranges like this. Whether it's the paint they use or the lack of detail that is added to the models, this is how they look on the show and Bachmann have done a great job of making the characters look like as they do on the show. Both ranges have their strengths and weaknesses but I think both ranges are doing a great job at getting people in the hobby.
Quote from: Chaz on December 09, 2015, 05:35:12 PM
Jacob, I gotta be honest with you but I disagree with you completely on something.
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on December 09, 2015, 12:58:27 PM
The Hornby Thomas & Friends Locomotives look better too me, as Hornby add more detail than Bachmann do, so I know the Hornby Oliver will be better than the Bachmann Oliver.
This may be your personal preference, but the thing is, just because the Hornby Oliver has those details you keep bringing up that doesn't make it better or worse than the Bachmann model. You don't even know what the Bachmann Oliver looks like, (nobody does) so why are you already claiming that the Hornby model is better? If you have your own taste that's perfectly fine, but what is not sitting down well on my end is you are claiming that you know that the Hornby model is better than the Bachmann model with no evidence to support this claim because there is no photo of the Bachmann model.
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on December 09, 2015, 12:58:27 PM
The Hornby Thomas & Friends range is a bit more grown as extra detail like seperate handrails are fitted too most of the Locomotives and no leaded paint is used, unlike the Bachmann Thomas & Friends range.
How exactly is Hornby "more grown" than Bachmann? When I last checked both ranges have produced a decent number of models, Hornby probably produced more but this is because they have been in production for longer and it doesn't take them very long to make their models compared to Bachmann who has to start from scratch.
I am not saying that Hornby is a bad range by any means but I honestly don't think it's fair to compare both of the ranges like this. Whether it's the paint they use or the lack of detail that is added to the models, this is how they look on the show and Bachmann have done a great job of making the characters look like as they do on the show. Both ranges have their strengths and weaknesses but I think both ranges are doing a great job at getting people in the hobby.
I know that, by that nobody knows what Bachmann Oilver will look like yet, but from inspections of the detail of Bachmann's other Thomas & Friends Locmotives, I have instinct that the Bachmann Oliver will not be as good as the Hornby one. I may be wrong though. I might like the Bachmann Oliver more than the Hornby one, but just as a first thoughts observation from the past Bachmann Thomas & Friends Locomotive releases, I do not think it will be as good as Hornby Oliver.
When I meant that the Hornby Thomas & Friends range is more "grown-up", I meant it the way that detail like seperate handrails and sprung buffers (Like you find on Hornby Diesel D7101, Hornby Flying Scotsman (Thomas), Hornby Spencer and Hornby Murdoch), they just feel too me like they are for older people rather than for a child as they have more delicate parts on them, that could be broken easily with smaller hands.
I agree that the Bachmann and Hornby Thomas & Friends ranges both have strengths and weaknesses, but I still prefer the Hornby range to the Bachmann one. I do not mean any offence to anybody saying this, lack of detail Bachmann do not add like seperate handrails and / or sprung buffers annoys me, and gives me the impression that the product has been designed and built for use by younger people rather older people. I prefer more detail to be added and then I am willing to sound more money on the Locomotives with more detail, are worth more money, in my opinion.
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on December 09, 2015, 05:50:44 PM
When I meant that the Hornby Thomas & Friends range is more "grown-up", I meant it the way that detail like seperate handrails and sprung buffers (Like you find on Hornby Diesel D7101, Hornby Flying Scotsman (Thomas), Hornby Spencer and Hornby Murdoch), they just feel too me like they are for older people rather than for a child as they have more delicate parts on them, that could be broken easily with smaller hands.
I guess when you didn't put "grown
-up" in your post, I assumed that you meant something like development or production number, my mistake. Yes, I agree with you that the Bachmann models are a lot less delicate in that regard compared to Hornby, and Bachmann models are a lot more "child-friendly" compared to Hornby. Some of my Hornby models have missing parts too, and the ones I still have are still kept in storage since I found myself running my Bachmann models a lot more as I got older.
And I understand completely about wanting more detailed models, since there are a few non-Thomas models I also own that are a lot more expensive and come with sound/DCC, so I can't argue with you on that one. At the end of the day, the models someone picks out all come down to preference for what the modeler wants, and nothing more or less then that.
Quote from: Chaz on December 09, 2015, 06:05:36 PM
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on December 09, 2015, 05:50:44 PM
When I meant that the Hornby Thomas & Friends range is more "grown-up", I meant it the way that detail like seperate handrails and sprung buffers (Like you find on Hornby Diesel D7101, Hornby Flying Scotsman (Thomas), Hornby Spencer and Hornby Murdoch), they just feel too me like they are for older people rather than for a child as they have more delicate parts on them, that could be broken easily with smaller hands.
I guess when you didn't put "grown-up" in your post, I assumed that you meant something like development or production number, my mistake. Yes, I agree with you that the Bachmann models are a lot less delicate in that regard compared to Hornby, and Bachmann models are a lot more "child-friendly" compared to Hornby. Some of my Hornby models have missing parts too, and the ones I still have are still kept in storage since I found myself running my Bachmann models a lot more as I got older.
And I understand completely about wanting more detailed models, since there are a few non-Thomas models I also own that are a lot more expensive and come with sound/DCC, so I can't argue with you on that one. At the end of the day, the models someone picks out all come down to preference for what the modeler wants, and nothing more or less then that.
That's what I meant to put that the Bachmann Thomas & Friends Locomotives are more child-friendly than the Hornby ones.
Which Hornby Thomas & Friends Locomotives do you have, Chaz?
I can't argue with you there either. All models are determined to what the modeller wants and preferes.
The ones I still have are Thomas, Percy, Duck, James, Gordon, Diesel, Henry, and Toby. I used to have some of the other ones (some include Edward, Oliver, and Stepney) but I sold them on eBay or to friends of mine who wanted them for their own personal projects.
Quote from: Chaz on December 09, 2015, 06:18:51 PM
The ones I still have are Thomas, Percy, Duck, James, Gordon, Diesel, Henry, and Toby. I used to have some of the other ones (some include Edward, Oliver, and Stepney) but I sold them on eBay or to friends of mine who wanted them for their own personal projects.
Why did you sell Oliver and Stepney for? Those are two of the best Thomas & Friends Locomotives Hornby produced. Doing this means you do not own the those Locomotives in Model Railway form (Ex-cluding the new up-coming release of Bachmann Oliver).
That was part of the reason why I sold the Hornby Oliver model since the Bachmann model, but my reasons were also for needing the money for something outside of the hobby that I wish to keep private.
I do have most of my rolling stock still saved, and I even picked up the old Hornby Duck train set that came out in the 80s about 10 years ago. I still have the original box it came in too.
Quote from: Chaz on December 09, 2015, 06:35:48 PM
That was part of the reason why I sold the Hornby Oliver model since the Bachmann model, but my reasons were also for needing the money for something outside of the hobby that I wish to keep private.
I do have most of my rolling stock still saved, and I even picked up the old Hornby Duck train set that came out in the 80s about 10 years ago. I still have the original box it came in too.
So you sold your Hornby Oliver recently then? I wouldn't do that until I know what the Bachman Oliver looks like, then I would decide which one I would want.
That Hornby Duck Train Set is very rare, especially with the box. I recently (Well back in October 2015), picked a Hornby R306 Breakdown Crane from the 1980's on eBay, with the outer box, and the two polystyrene trays. This Breakdown Crane is also rare, especially with the box, along with the 4 jacks and the funnel! The Breakdown Crane is complete and un-used looking as it was an un-wanted present that has been sat in a cupboard un-touched for about 23 years, according to the seller that is, anyway!