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Title: On30 Modeling Project
Post by: Ezra_Sharp on November 23, 2009, 10:32:42 PM
Hey guys!

Yes, I've got an On30 locomotive project that has become very frustrating. Its still literally on the drawing board.

Its a "Winan's" style 0-8-0 camelback for On30. I had originaly wanted to use an old MDC Roundhouse "Modern" 2-8-0 kit I have but the drivers are too small, astheticaly, and they dont't have that "old time" narrow gauge look either. But I have noticed that the drivers from the Bachmann 2-6-0 have the right diamiter, visualy, and the "look" I want. But that would require building my own frame which I don't have the skill to build.

My most recent thought was using the BLI (Brodway Limited Imports) On30 C-16 chassis. But I don't know who long the wheel base is and what the diamiter of the drivers are. If anyone can help me I'd be very much obliged!
Title: Re: On30 Modeling Project
Post by: ebtbob on November 24, 2009, 08:50:51 AM
Ezra,

      Measuring with a scale rule,  the drivers measure out at 36 inches and from the center of the pilot wheel to the center of the fourth driver is 18 feet.
Title: Re: On30 Modeling Project
Post by: Ezra_Sharp on November 24, 2009, 05:39:10 PM
Ok, that does help a good bit. But do you know what the Drive Wheel diamiters are?
Title: Re: On30 Modeling Project
Post by: Ezra_Sharp on November 24, 2009, 06:10:54 PM
Oh, never mind. I miss read your reply.  :-[  Very Much Obliged for the info ebtbob!  ;D
Title: Re: On30 Modeling Project
Post by: rich19 on November 25, 2009, 05:59:07 AM
Hi,

why not take a "cheap" 2-8-2, 4-8-2 or 4-8-4 with larger driving wheels and use that as a basis?

In order to improve the optics (19th century looks), you could
- cut away every second spoke as well as
- attach bigger counterweights that look more "old time". Did that on a project and it looked quite good actually.

Richard
Title: Re: On30 Modeling Project
Post by: scottychaos on November 25, 2009, 10:16:38 AM
Quote from: Ezra_Sharp on November 23, 2009, 10:32:42 PM
but the drivers are too small, astheticaly, and they dont't have that "old time" narrow gauge look either.

You do know the Winans Camels were not narrow gauge? ;)
just checking..

but still, there is no reason you cant make one in On30 and "say" its narrow gauge! nothing wrong with that....im just not sure why you would want a "narrow gauge look" when the prototype didnt have a "narrow gauge look"..

I would just build a model as close as possible in On30, and then you have a nice model of a camel that just happens to be 30" gauge..
"narrow gauge look" simply isnt part of the equation..IMO..

Scot
Title: Re: On30 Modeling Project
Post by: Ezra_Sharp on November 30, 2009, 10:54:10 PM
Well, I have been fascinated by the Winans Camel since Childhood. And yes, I'm more than aware of the fact that they were NOT narrow gauge.

I am a freelance modeler and even my future On30 layout is fictional. Albeit I've taken inspiration mostly from Colorado Narrow Gauge. And I'm a sucker for odd and unique locomotives. Another reason why I want to make an On30 Winan's style Camel is also because they had a terrific service record, the last Camel being retired sometime in the late 1890's. So why not have a small Railroad Co. take interest in the design and build their own version.

Look at it this way, the Oahu Railway & Land Co was so impressed of the D&RGW's K-28 class that they custom order a number to use on their own railway, the only major differences was that the K-28's ordered by the Oahu Railway didn't have the smoke box mounted dual air compressor comonly seen on the D&RGW. Other than that and their paint scheme they were virtual carbon copies.

The only difference between the Hawaiian K-28s and my 30in gauge Camel is that my engine, if this actually happened, is that my Camel would have been home built in stead of ordered/commissioned by a builder. Plus I'd like to test how good my kitbashing skills are.