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Title: ALCO Mogul
Post by: Bob S on July 11, 2011, 11:14:10 AM
I need this one done in N.   Perfect for GB&W!

Resp'y,
Bob S.
Title: Re: ALCO Mogul
Post by: skipgear on July 11, 2011, 02:50:41 PM
It looks to be a dead copy of the Model Power Mogul which is a very good runner. I would rather they expend their efforts on loco's that have not been produced yet.
Title: Re: ALCO Mogul
Post by: Moundcity on July 11, 2011, 09:07:04 PM
>>>It looks to be a dead copy of the Model Power Mogul which is a very good runner. I would rather they expend their efforts on loco's that have not been produced yet.

Skipgear you usually have a good eye.....look at the HO mogul again.  It doesn't look that SP.  The Bachmann loco looks more generic.  I'd like to see one if made available especieally if it runs as well as my 4-6-0.

Tom P
Title: Re: ALCO Mogul
Post by: skipgear on July 12, 2011, 12:17:13 AM
I know they are not exactly the same but close enough for 90% of the modelers out there...

(http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m516/skipgear/2-6-0compare.jpg)

Cab windows, Walcherts Valve gear and a tender with bunker sides are the main differences and if you get the Undec it comes with a cab that is closer and a different smoke box cover and pilot besides what is shown in the picture.

I would rather see effort expended on models that are not available yet. There are currently 3 Moguls available in N scale and although 2 of them are older versions, that is still 3 more versions than some models that have not been made yet, such as an Atlantic.
Title: Re: ALCO Mogul
Post by: J3a-614 on July 12, 2011, 12:26:29 AM
Looks like the strongest prototype for the new 2-6-0 may be from the New Haven; main difference between the model and this photo is a cab with an arched window, a common design characteristic on engines built by Alco, and also repeated on General Electric interurban steeplecabs, whose mechanical components were contracted out to a certain steam locomotive builder across town in Schenectady, N.Y.:

http://www.railroad.net/articles/railfanning/worktrains/media/MW_19.jpg

Hmm, this was a fairly common locomotive in New England, often with 63-inch drivers; I wonder if Bachmann in HO has in mind the idea of some detail variations to match to Boston & Main engines?

For inspiration:

http://eriksenphoto.smugmug.com/Trains/Standard-gauge/Boston-Maine-Railroad/2510552_SzVCW/1/131823679_GMNED#131823679_GMNED

http://eriksenphoto.smugmug.com/Trains/Standard-gauge/Boston-Maine-Railroad/2510552_SzVCW/1/131823679_GMNED#131823689_VjxMZ

Not a 2-6-0, but from the B&M, and I like the sound. . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJbZI1_G5VA&feature=related
Title: Re: ALCO Mogul
Post by: Moundcity on July 12, 2011, 08:33:38 PM
>>>>Cab windows, Walcherts Valve gear and a tender with bunker sides are the main differences and if you get the Undec it comes with a cab that is closer and a different smoke box cover and pilot besides what is shown in the picture.

>>>>I would rather see effort expended on models that are not available yet. There are currently 3 Moguls available in N scale and although 2 of them are older versions, that is still 3 more versions than some models that have not been made yet, such as an Atlantic.

What I was getting at is that HO Bachmann mogul appears to be a more medium sized locomotive. The MP 2-6-0 is a rather large size.   If I could have chosen, a Wabash mogul like the one at MOT in St. Louis would be ideal.  Since much of the work is already complete for the HO version,  it might be a waste not to bring it out in N.

I also agree that an Atlantic is a missing link.  My preference would be something along the lines of a Wabash, Cloverleaf or Michigan Central prototype.  The C&O had some nice 4-4-2s that lasted late in the steam era.


Tom P in N. VA