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Title: when??
Post by: bob kaplan on July 11, 2012, 01:21:38 PM
Does anyone have any idea of if,and/or when we might expect a "new" not a reissue engine in large scale?  What most likely be the prototype?   Thanks for any educated guess....
Title: Re: when??
Post by: Skarloey Railway on July 11, 2012, 06:30:47 PM
Yes, most likely, there will be something new, unless they plan to slowly pull out of large scall altogether, which seems unlikely.

'When', is anyone's guess, though I believe anouncements of 'new' products are not far off.

As for 'what', I can with some certainty say the prototype will be of an American made loco, of 2' to 3' gauge and most likely steam powered rather than diesel/gasoline. Beyond that broad remit, I am clueless.

Oh, and some people will know for sure, but they work for Bachmann and must stay schtum.

If I had to guess, I'd say the success of the K27 has proved that bigger engines of well known prototypes sell and we might get a 3' gauge inside frame 2-8-0, like a C18
Title: Re: when??
Post by: Bucksco on July 11, 2012, 08:11:12 PM
Bachmann always announces new items at the annual NMRA convention which happens to be in a few weeks....
Title: Re: when??
Post by: glennk28 on July 12, 2012, 03:03:36 AM
Given the apparent factory relationships of Bachmann Fn3 and Blackstone HOn3, my money would be on the C-19, since a lot of engineering work has been done in HOn3--compare not only the K-27 but the freight cars under both labels. 

The C-19 could almost be considered a Baldwin "Catalog Loco" having appeared on serveral roads. 

gj
Title: Re: when??
Post by: chuckger on July 29, 2012, 11:59:50 AM
Hi Mr Bachmann, & Yardmaster,

  Ok its the 29th the NMRA convention is started, so what steam engine in 120.3 is everyone going to be very very happy with?? This is what I was told at the last ECLSTS when I asked about about anything new in large scale.

  Thanks,
  Chuck 
Title: Re: when??
Post by: mickeykelley on July 29, 2012, 08:55:39 PM
All ears!!!!
Title: Re: when??
Post by: Bucksco on July 29, 2012, 10:49:25 PM
Manufacturer's hall opens on Friday.
Title: Re: when??
Post by: chuckger on August 03, 2012, 01:35:42 PM
Mr Yardmaster,

  Its Friday, how about spillin the beans, let me know what ive been saving for.

  Thanks Chuck
Title: Re: when??
Post by: Wade Colyer on August 03, 2012, 03:16:11 PM
Here you go:

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/NMRA_2012.pdf

Wade
Title: Re: when??
Post by: mickeykelley on August 03, 2012, 08:05:29 PM
So what exactly is the difference in the 2-8-0 I bought a couple years ago and this new one?
Title: Re: when??
Post by: Kevin Strong on August 03, 2012, 08:19:30 PM
Outside Frame 2-8-0:

(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/eastbroadtop/drg350/drgw35018.jpg)
Bachmann 2-8-0, modified for a fictitional Denver & Rio Grande 2-8-0. The prototype for the Bachmann loco is a 30" gauge outside frame 2-8-0 built for Mexico, now preserved in Montana (?)

New C-19:

(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/eastbroadtop/EBT7/EBT709.jpg)
(ex East Broad Top #7, which became Ohio River & Western #14, then Pennsylvania RR #9669)

The prototype for the Bachmann C-19 is a class of locomotives built for the D&RGW and other railroads like the EBT.

Glad to see it, though--grumble snort--

(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/eastbroadtop/EBT7/EBT719.jpg)

couldn't they have announced this last August??? Save me a ton of work!

Later,

K
Title: Re: when??
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on August 03, 2012, 09:39:13 PM
Yeah Kevin, but you will be way prouder of yours!!!! 8)
Title: Re: when??
Post by: mickeykelley on August 04, 2012, 10:03:25 AM
Ok so in English please.......
Title: Re: when??
Post by: Chuck N on August 04, 2012, 11:02:56 AM
The original 2-8-0 has the drive wheels on the inside of the frame and counter weights on the outside of the frame with the drive rods.  The new C-19 has the wheels, and drive rods on the outside of the frame.

The original one did not run on the D&RGW. 

Chuck
Title: Re: when??
Post by: bob kaplan on August 04, 2012, 11:05:18 AM
wow....that will be great.
  Some educated guesses please.  Do you think the C-19 will make it around LGB 16000 radius?  Center drivers seem to be blind.  Might they run the potential of slipping off-and-between the rails like my Spectrum 2-6-0 does at times?  Is the C-19 approx the same size at Connie...pulling power??
     Do you think that the plug and play has been perfected well enough to do just that??i enjoy sound but have been disappointed when it comes to installation....the 2-8-2 required some serious adjustments as far as i was concerned...in fact....i sent it out for installation and it has a reed switch for the timing of the chuff. 2-6-6-2 was seriously ruined by one installer and i had to pay for replacement....very disappointed there.  Gave up with the Forney...did not try sound.
  Thanks for the input....it is appreciated...and i am looking forward to the C-19 Consolidation.  Connie has been a great little engine...i guess except for the breaking plastic gear...a nice little runner.
Title: Re: when??
Post by: Kevin Strong on August 04, 2012, 11:39:17 AM
I can't see any physical reason it wouldn't fit around an LGB 1600 (c. 4' radius) curve. The Accucraft version does so, as does my BBT chassis on my model. The wheelbase is similar to the outside frame 2-8-0--within an inch or less (too lazy to go down and measure at the moment)--so I'd expect similar performance on curves. The issue with the center axle on the 2-6-0 stems from it being a very long-wheelbase locomotive with only one axle between the ends. The 2-8-0 has two axles in the same space, so they're closer to the flanged axles and geometrically cannot get so far off the rail.

Later,

K
Title: Re: when??
Post by: bob kaplan on August 04, 2012, 01:24:04 PM
Thanks for the reassuring words Keven
Title: Re: when??
Post by: Kevin Strong on August 05, 2012, 02:49:05 AM
I just measured my C-19; it's got a 7" wheelbase. The 2-8-0 has a 6" wheelbase. The 2-6-0 has a 7 1/4" wheelbase. Sitting my C-19 on a section of 1600 curve, the wheels are still over the railhead.

Later,

K