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Title: Tool Car Project
Post by: jonathan on August 14, 2012, 08:30:17 AM
For once, I'm not modifying a Bachmann Locomotive.  It was time I start working on some interesting rolling stock for my railroad.  This is a Scale Tool Car; a model that does not exist in plastic or brass (no B&O car anyway).

I took a 40ft wooden box car (maker does not matter) and chopped it up so only the roof and underframe went untouched.  I made the ends, vestibule and inner walls from Evergreen HO wood siding.  This is as close to scrathbuilt as I can get so far.  Call it a scratch-bash I guess.

What follows are progress photos of the build. I hope to finish the car by the end of the week.

The rough/distressed nature of the sides are intentional because:

1. These cars were made from M-15J box cars built between 1916-1923 IIRC.  

2. They were modified several times and used heavily over a period of decades.

3.  As non-revenue cars, they didn't receive the same attention as money-making cars.

Hence, I will be weathering the car heavily.  Will post the final pix when done.

Regards,

Jonathan

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Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: CNE Runner on August 14, 2012, 10:37:10 AM
As always Jonathan your work is outstanding. Of special note are your photographic abilities...'gives us a good idea of what you are writing. There is a manufacturer (whose name has slipped through this colander I use as a brain bucket) who makes an overlay kit to convert Accurail reefers (I think) to MOW cars.

I can see this will be a really nice addition to your 'fleet'.

Ray
Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: jonathan on August 14, 2012, 10:58:08 AM
Thanks, Ray, for your kind words.  :)

Copyright rules prevent me from posting a photo of the prototype.  Suffice to say, I took a little artistic license in a couple areas, due to lack of parts.  However, XM-3037 did exist once upon a time. It's always helpful to have some photos as a go-by.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: richg on August 14, 2012, 12:09:40 PM
I found a prototype photo in a Google search.

http://tinyurl.com/bsp4xra

Rich



Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: Terry Toenges on August 14, 2012, 02:01:34 PM
Looks great.
Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: Doneldon on August 15, 2012, 12:39:49 AM
Super, as usual.
Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: jonathan on August 15, 2012, 06:32:54 AM
Thanks, guys.

Here's some close ups.  The camera becomes a tool.  When I get up close, I can find the little errors, that you otherwise would not see:

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Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: CNE Runner on August 15, 2012, 02:34:07 PM
Jonathan - If anyone finds errors here they must be using a microscope as a vision aid. Your work is fantastic. Have you considered moving to Northeastern Alabama so I can learn from you?

Inspirational,
Ray
Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: richg on August 15, 2012, 04:26:52 PM
Great work.
I have found the same with my modeling when I took some photos.
Now you need a scale car.
Wish I could do more like this. My last was a HO scale 0-8-0, B&O Winans Camel.

Rich
Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: jonathan on August 16, 2012, 06:26:19 AM
Thanks, again.

Some of my friends are from LA (Lower Alabama). Perhaps I'll make it that way someday.  :)  When I refer to 'errors', I mean the artistic license I sometimes take when building.  To the B&O rivet counter, there are a few areas that don't follow the prototype.  For me, it's close enough.

In fact, I have just started building a scale test car to go with the tool car.  Then I have to build a track scale station.  Been taking measurements to see where I can squeeze in a small structure on a siding or in my yard.  I think I did this backwards.  ;)

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: jonathan on August 18, 2012, 05:53:12 AM
Just to finish off this topic...

Here's the scale test car to go with the tool car.

It was originally a Southern Pacific car.  I had to remove the markings, remark it for B&O and did a little detail painting as well.  Notice the red couplers and yellow trim.

By the way, try finding an "X" in your extra decal supply.  They are as rare as chicken teeth.  I had to buy a roman lettering sheet just to get the X's.

Regards,

Jonathan

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This model is so tiny, I thought I was working in N Scale!

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Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: J3a-614 on August 18, 2012, 09:13:19 AM
Been a little busy to post as much as I might normally do, but again, this is looks great, as always!  Wish I could get to working on something for myself.

Mostly have the locomotives I would need, though I could use some more passenger engines (all STEAM, of course, including J3 and J3a 4-8-4s), and need more passenger cars and, for modeling the C&O, need more and more and more hopper cars--and it figures the C&O would use an AAR Alternate design that no one makes.

Hmm, a number of other roads like the Illinois Central used that AAR Alternate design, hint, hint, the model could come with either plain or arched ends, anyone who would use them would need a lot of them, hint, hint. . .
Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: RAM on August 18, 2012, 05:00:49 PM
As your decals say, it must be hauled on the rear of the train.  Remember this was back when all trains had a caboose on the end.  In today's world I guess it would be the next to last car.  I don't know if this type of test cars are still used, it has been a long time since I have seen one.   Anyone up to date on these.  By the way nice job of both cars.
Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: Woody Elmore on August 19, 2012, 08:22:46 PM
Jon - more great work. You make what you do look easy. What's next? You've been working on freight cars - maybe we'll see you kitbash some passenger cars into accurate B&O configurations.

Once again - phenomonal job (and nobody except you would have missed the little "x"if you left it off!)
Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: jonathan on August 31, 2012, 04:50:56 AM
Well... this is a case of a simple car-building project that turned into a whole new scenery, and operational, element for my layout.

This is a new track scale area in my yard.  I had to rip up the trackage and move things around a bit to get the scale to fit.  However, the scale and structure are quite small.  They woud fit on even the smallest shelf layout.  This portion of my layout is only 9.5 inches wide.

Thanks, Woody, RAM, J3a et al, for being so kind on your comments.  Hopefully this project is now done and I can let go of the thread.  BTW you may see a big Bachmann product in the background.  I'm just sayin'   ;D

Reagrds,

Jonathan

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Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: Jhanecker2 on August 31, 2012, 10:40:23 AM
Looks  Totally Awesome !!!  J2.
Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: ryeguyisme on September 01, 2012, 08:50:46 AM
Jonathan, great work, I wonder what you'll do next.

How about a troop train, with troop sleepers and kitchen cars and flatcars with tanks, jeeps and halftracks?
Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: rogertra on September 01, 2012, 10:16:37 PM
Excellent work Jonathan.

If I may suggest, a little weathering would really bring everything to life.

Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: electrical whiz kid on September 02, 2012, 02:35:36 PM
Jonathan;
THat is one heck of a good job !  Excellent atention paid to detail and finish.  Keep up the good work.  A worthy addition to your work train would probably be the boom car and wrecker by Tichy. 
Rich
Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: Terry Toenges on September 03, 2012, 01:48:31 AM
Really good.
Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: jonathan on September 03, 2012, 06:06:10 AM
Thanks, gents.

Working on the weathering.  Weathering structures makes me nervous.

I have a good friend who models only military trains.  I'll leave that to him.

I do have a Roco boom car, that is a really nice car.  Thought about getting one of those caboose/flat car things, to go with it, but it don't know how prototypical they are.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: Doneldon on September 03, 2012, 03:17:54 PM
jonathan-

The half-flats or flatcars which are sold with most cranes are prototypical. They were necessary to keep the boom from striking any kind of house car coupled next to the crane. The half flats with a shed on the distant end were very common as they provided a secure place to store parts and materials needed by the crane (hardware and lubricants), and a place for the crane operator to ride to work if the MOW train included no crew accommodations. You still see this set up today though wrecker trains are less common now due to better engineering and construction materials.

I have no misgivings about your ability to weather models as I've seen several examples of your outstanding work. Don't be afraid to weather heavily, almost destructively. The maintenance of MOW equipment was/is laughable.
                                                                                                                      -- D
Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: ryeguyisme on September 04, 2012, 06:13:23 PM
Jonathan, does your good friend know a good source for Ho scale US WWII tanks, halftracks and jeeps for flatcar loads???

Title: Re: Tool Car Project
Post by: jonathan on September 05, 2012, 06:19:46 AM
Rye,

My friend uses all the usual supply places.  And Yes, US Army WWII models in HO Scale are very, very hard to find... and pricey when found.  Sherman Tanks are especially rare.  But they are out there.  He has been collecting them for over 20 years.

Regards,

Jonathan