I have a Mantua 0-6-0 with the slope back tender. I want to change that tender as I'm not fond of that style. I would really like a short Vanderbilt like the one that comes with the Bachmann USRA 0-6-0. Unfortunately, it isn't sold as a separate item. Does anyone have one of these they could part with?
Roger Huber
huber25@att.net
Go to the parts section. Under HO Bachmann shows a complete Vanderbilt tender for the 0-6-0 for $25.00.Part # PN-3271-1 Joe
oldie-
If you are running DCC you may have to exchange the
insides the tenders because they aren't always the same
inside. This can be true even when they have the same
connector harnesses.
-- D
oldline1
The USRA 0-6-0 tender has nothing in the tender. The decoder is set in the cab which has no wiring going to the tender. The only problem that may arise is how the tender attaches to the loco. The Bachmann 0-6-0 has a slot that hooks over the drawbar on the loco. If the Mantua is the same there should be no problem.
Jerry
If this is the Tender I am thinking of you should be able to order it as stated above and it will fit.
Correction If the hook up on the Mantua is the same as the bachmann it will fit Otherwise I suppose something could be rigged.
Mantua locomotives and tenders usually had a screw into each, into the bottom of the engine beneath the cab, and into the front of the tender. The screws fit through holes in each end of the drawbar.
It's fairly easy to swap Mantua tenders for a different look, but as far as I know Mantua never made a short Vanderbilt tender, only 12-wheel Vanderbilts for use with larger locomotives.
I notice on E-bay that there are a lot of tenders for sale, especially under the brass section.
Rich C.
Geesh ! Are we talkin' about that 1950s Mantua or Tyco 0-4-0 or 0-6-0 switcher with the slant back tender ! ? I have one collecting dust in a drawer under layout..I believe IT has that screw through what I believe is a heavy fiber board drawbar...and a wire from tender to motor..(not home right now )...!
You obvioiusly are not aware of what these brass tenders sell for or you would not have advised E-Bay Brass as a source.
Pacific Northern;
To even the more uninitiated, brass is known first for its quality and second for its price; however, I have seen a pretty broad spectrum of price, and also have seen plastic tenders that would do justice to brass. E-bay is a pretty good place to look to find what you might need. Perhaps you should do your homework before making commentary
..Havea nice day.
Rich C.
PacNo-
Unlike the LHS and most on-line sellers, eBay prices are all over the map, depending largely on what's on sale today and who's on line to buy it. I've seen brass models at very reasonable prices and some plastic up in the stratosphere. The trick is to avoid shopping when you have a critical need that just won't wait. In that circumstance, the buyer is at the mercy of the sellers. If you can anticipate future needs and shop accordingly, there are real bargains to be found.
-- D
Quote from: electrical whiz kid on April 18, 2013, 09:58:16 AM
Pacific Northern;
To even the more uninitiated, brass is known first for its quality and second for its price; however, I have seen a pretty broad spectrum of price, and also have seen plastic tenders that would do justice to brass. E-bay is a pretty good place to look to find what you might need. Perhaps you should do your homework before making commentary
..Havea nice day.
Rich C.
If you read the OP the engine to be paired is a old Mantua 0-6-0. Not exactly the engine you would pair up with a brass tender. I looked on E-Bay as well and the prices between the brass and the plastic is extreme.
You should try to comprehend before you speak on any thing, otherwise you may not make sense.
Bachmann at one time released tenders seprately. I just got the medium vanderbuilt at a train shwo for $20 but saw others there for $40. so its going to be a hit or miss. my vanderbuilt is going behing a 4-6-0(had to shave down the coal bunker and make a new coal load but that was easier done then said...haha) also had to make a new draw bar but i took one from an old IHC tender and it worked perfectly.
If you got a local train show coming up keep an eye out there, or ebay. but they won;t be cheap as they are not produced anymore.
Pacno;\I don't give a hoot of it is a mantua, hobbyline, athearn, the old gray mare, etc; All I did was offer a tip. I maintain my original response to you, thank you very much.
Rich C.
Quote from: oldline1 on April 08, 2013, 05:15:22 PM
I have a Mantua 0-6-0 with the slope back tender. I want to change that tender as I'm not fond of that style. I would really like a short Vanderbilt like the one that comes with the Bachmann USRA 0-6-0. Unfortunately, it isn't sold as a separate item. Does anyone have one of these they could part with?
Roger Huber
huber25@att.net
The below tender came from an old Bachmann 0-6-0. I gave the locos to someone here but kept the tenders. I have one left you can have for the cost of mailing. Needs some work, coupler, trucks.
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/richg1998/DSCN2559.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/richg1998/media/DSCN2559.jpg.html)
Rich
Most of the time, I find good prices, luck, on Ebay.
Hi, Rich;
That looks like a pretty nice tender; oil as is, or some modification for coal consumption. I think he might be happy.
Rich C.
PS;
I don't know about the other guys, but doing stuff like that is what I call fun!!!
Rich C.
richg,
You understood the original question! Yes, the tender you showed in your post is what I have been looking for. If you will send me your email I'd like to talk about it.
How do answers to questions get SO FAR OFF TRACK? It's amazing to me!
Of course it won't immediately connect to my Mantua 0-6-0! Other than brass imports I can't think of any two different manufacturers that will connect their tenders and engines to each other without some work. Even some brass imports won't do that! Of course if interbreeding equipment the wiring may not be right. Yes, I considered a brass tender but they were going too high on ebay the last few I saw. I'm not adverse to using a brass tender with the Mantua 0-6-0 but this is just a project to improve the looks of the engine as I really hate slope back tenders. I have 3 superdetailed, remotored Mantua 2-8-2s with NWSL brass N&W tenders and, yes, they took some work to make work. Not brain surgery by any means.
Roger Huber
Quote from: electrical whiz kid on April 20, 2013, 05:05:17 PM
PS;
I don't know about the other guys, but doing stuff like that is what I call fun!!!
Rich C.
Whiz, I believe you gave excellent advice. :)
Not sure what that other mess was about.....
Quote from: oldline1 on April 08, 2013, 05:15:22 PM
I have a Mantua 0-6-0 with the slope back tender. I want to change that tender as I'm not fond of that style. I would really like a short Vanderbilt like the one that comes with the Bachmann USRA 0-6-0. Unfortunately, it isn't sold as a separate item. Does anyone have one of these they could part with?
Roger Huber
huber25@att.net
Below is what I did with a Mantua 0-6-0T and the tender I showed you. I had two tenders. Cab forward, 2-6-0 with sound in the tender and a DZ125 in the loco. I first did the loco and sometime later thought about sound in the tender so two decoders.
It is based on a 4-4-0, cab forward, oil fired loco built around 1901.
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/richg1998/Cab%20Forward/img_0410.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/richg1998/media/Cab%20Forward/img_0410.jpg.html)
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/richg1998/Cab%20Forward/IMG_0761.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/richg1998/media/Cab%20Forward/IMG_0761.jpg.html)
Rich
That cab forward 0-6-0T, is, err........... cute? :)
Quote from: rogertra on May 05, 2013, 10:24:52 AM
That cab forward 0-6-0T, is, err........... cute? :)
Based on this cab forward which was on of a kind.
http://nwprr.net/photo/albums/north-pacific-coast-engine-21
Rich
Quote from: richg on May 05, 2013, 11:06:28 AM
Quote from: rogertra on May 05, 2013, 10:24:52 AM
That cab forward 0-6-0T, is, err........... cute? :)
Based on this cab forward which was on of a kind.
http://nwprr.net/photo/albums/north-pacific-coast-engine-21
Rich
Very interesting Rich. Never knew about that one, which shows you that you can learn something new everyday. Thanks for posting.
Quote from: richg on May 05, 2013, 09:33:09 AM
Cab forward, 2-6-0 with sound in the tender and a DZ125 in the loco. I first did the loco and sometime later thought about sound in the tender so two decoders.
It is based on a 4-4-0, cab forward, oil fired loco built around 1901.
Rich-
I think the wheel arrangement code is still marked from the smokebox end of
the locomotive of a cab forward so your loco would really be an 0-6-2. Now
that's unique.
-- D
I didn't notice the two wheeled leading truck. Nice Cab forward 2-6-0 or Donald points out, is it?
However, the Italian State Railway "FS" had several cab forward locomotives, 4-6-0 types class 670, 671 and 672. The 670 to 672 class engines had a 3 axle tender, the nickname was "mucca" (cow). The engines (construction year 1902, top speed 110 km/h) were used to haul passenger trains on the east coast line.
So according to the Italians and most other descriptions, the front of the engine was the cab end.
Nice job on the cab forward Rich. That's the sort of creativity and modeling skill I like to see. Did you kit bash the cab, was it scratchbuilt or from another source?
I have always had a liking for cab forward designs, and this little one from Wiseman Model Service has always caught my eye.
http://www.locopainter.com/store/product.php?id=280 (http://www.locopainter.com/store/product.php?id=280)
I need to contact them and find out if the model can be built as an HO standard gauge without too much difficulty.
Sid
Quote from: richg on May 05, 2013, 09:33:09 AM
I had two tenders. Cab forward, 2-6-0 with sound in the tender and a DZ125 in the loco.Rich
Rich-
I was mistaken and I apologize for attempting to correct you. Cab forwards are notated the
same as conventional locomotives. I can't believe how long I believed the opposite, even when
I was young enough not to have a failing memory for an excuse!
-- D