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Title: steam engines
Post by: nichbuhler16754 on May 20, 2013, 05:41:33 PM
 Out of all the steam engins that are DCC witch one is the best????????
Title: Re: steam engins
Post by: rogertra on May 20, 2013, 05:51:03 PM
Quote from: nichbuhler16754 on May 20, 2013, 05:41:33 PM
Out of all the steam engins that are DCC witch one is the best????????

"Witch" one?  The one that casts it spell on you.  :)

Seriously, that's like asking "How long is a piece of string?"

I have Spectrum 2-10-0s, 2-8-0s, light and heavy 4-8-2s and some each of the two types of 4-6-0s and, in addition, a couple of the Alco 2-6-0s.  They all are "the best" depending on what I use them for.

So that we can better answer your question, tell us about your model railroad or the model railroad you'd like to build.  Main line?  Branch line? Industrial switching yard?  Logging line? etc., etc..   Each of these uses specific kinds of locos.  If you are planning say a logging railroad, then a 4-8-2 would be inappropriate but a 2-6-0 or 4-6-0 may be just perfect.  Your answer determines our answers.

Title: Re: steam engins
Post by: nichbuhler16754 on May 20, 2013, 06:02:12 PM
Hey I am just a beginner.......cut me some slack.....
Title: Re: steam engins
Post by: Jerrys HO on May 20, 2013, 06:29:23 PM
nich

If your not a rivet counter then any will suit you. Roger runs his railroad like the prototypes do, switching and transporting goods from one place to another and so on,which is perfectly OK if that's your thing (no offense roger). Some like to watch them go round and round for hours with no switching done at all. You get my point.
I like the new sound value loco's Bachmann has been putting out which in the steamers you have the ALCO 2-6-0. The sound is great. Then there's other's like master modeler jonathan that loves his Connies 2-8-0. So what roger is asking is a question for the beginner. How do you want to operate your layout?
Welcome to a wonderful hobby with plenty of fun for you and dad. Who knows, if you read up on all there is to know about DCC (which is impossible) you may teach your dad a few new tricks. ;D

Jerry
Title: Re: steam engins
Post by: rogertra on May 20, 2013, 07:50:11 PM
Quote from: nichbuhler16754 on May 20, 2013, 06:02:12 PM
Hey I am just a beginner.......cut me some slack.....

I was being helpful in trying to make you think of your goals.

Your question was like asking "What's the best automobile?"  There is no one answer.  :)
Title: Re: steam engins
Post by: RAM on May 20, 2013, 08:24:58 PM
nichbuhler16754 The 2-8-0 is a good locomotive to start with.  It is a mid size locomotive that you can use as a yard  locomotive or on the main line.  Local passenger power. That is what I would go for.  I do have two of them.
Title: Re: steam engins
Post by: richg on May 20, 2013, 09:02:50 PM
I was going to mention another brand of loco with sound which is much better but that would not have been acceptable here. The question was not very specific. I see this "best" in many forums.

Rich
Title: Re: steam engins
Post by: Joe Baldwin on May 20, 2013, 09:23:21 PM
As others have said, the Bachmann 2-8-0 is an extraordinary locomotive, reliable, fun and inexpensive.  I have 4 of them. 

I hope your dis of your Dad was intended as a joke.

Joe Daddy
Title: Re: steam engins
Post by: utdave on May 21, 2013, 02:38:44 AM
i love my EM1  2-8-8-2   with sound    the best engine bachmann has built pulls real good,stays on track , its even gone through one of my 18 radius turns without any troubles.    looks real , sounds real .     well the cost is more but worth every dallor.       bright head lights     BACHMANN  has done a number ONE job on the steam engine.   also on 28 speed  and running on 1 or 2 speed   its impressive  Dave   (whishes he had one more of these)
Title: Re: steam engins
Post by: Joe323 on May 21, 2013, 08:17:24 AM
Because the operating area of my layout is relatively small I prefer the smaller steamers so I run a sound value 2-6-0 and a dockside 0-6-0 but my consists are generally no more than 6 cars.

That works for me but for you well thats a loaded question.
Title: Re: steam engins
Post by: MilwaukeeRoadfan261 on May 21, 2013, 10:33:23 AM
In my opinion, the best are the GS-4, the Santa Fe Northern, 2-8-4 Berkshire, the Spectrum era 2-8-0 and the spetrum 4-6-0 as those are the ones I have and my 2-8-4, both 4-8-4's and the 2-8-0 are the strongest engines I have with each being able to handle over 30 cars (one engine at a time) on level track, given enough track to get that many cars in one train. The 4-6-0 however is a great little engine but I have found it is more suited for lighter duty, branchline work.
Title: Re: steam engins
Post by: Doneldon on May 21, 2013, 04:07:19 PM
nich-

Welcome to the world of opinion, a rampant condition in model railroading. Here's another.

You'll never get agreement on what is the best locomotive because there isn't one. There are only favorites and, people being what we are, every person has a different favorite. So I suggest that, as someone mentioned earlier, you base your buying decision on what kind of railroading you plan to represent. I believe that's the best way to get a loco which might become your favorite, or best.

Welcome to a hobby with so many aspects to it that I'm still learning things after almost 60 years.
                                                                                                                                                  -- D
Title: Re: steam engins
Post by: nichbuhler16754 on May 21, 2013, 10:59:08 PM
Well thank you all for your help (seriously) it really did help. I love herring other people's opinions It makes me feel good to know that a lot of people have good plans and I am not alone in this. Thank you for all of your help, I am having fun so far.
Title: Re: steam engins
Post by: nichbuhler16754 on May 21, 2013, 11:54:02 PM
Ohhhhhhhhhhh and Doneldon thank you for your tip, it's just the engine I want is very cool it's the 0-6-0 #4443 union pacific, I thought it would be a perfect engine to begin with, and I got last summer but when I put it down stairs in a case and what happend was we were going fore willing and I came back and it was on the ground broken in I believe 10- 20 peaces, I was devistared my first engine distoyed, one train wreck I will never forget. I really want to get it again but.....................  I don't know, you know???
Title: Re: steam engins
Post by: Doneldon on May 22, 2013, 01:52:32 AM
nich-

I don't know whether your broken locomotive is Bachmann's or someone else's, but I'm afraid I have to give you some bad news which you probably already suspect: It's very difficult if not impossible to repair badly-broken plastic engines without leaving evidence of major repairs. It's easy to replace fallen details and even things like broken pilots but major repairs on a plastic loco's body don't get good results. However, you may be in luck if your loco is from Bachmann.

You'll find a good selection of repair parts for your 0-6-0 on this website, even whole boiler/cab castings. A carefully restored plastic loco can look and run as good as new. This does take some skill so it might not be something you want to start unless you're already skilled in building plastic models. You can also get chassis parts, motors, driver sets and a broad selection of tender parts. This means you can even repair/replace your mechanism. Before you go for all of that, however, add up the total cost for the new parts. If you must buy a large number of parts, especially major pieces like the boiler and tender body, you might find it more economical to purchase a whole new loco. NB: Don't discard the intact parts of the old loco. Start a parts and leftovers cache in a small box; you'll be surprised how often you will find just what you need in your junk box. I've had one my whole model railroading life and it's as valuable to me as my tools. I dare say this is one statement with which few if any fellow modelers will argue.

If your engine was made by another manufacturer, go to their web site and see what parts they have. You may find another company with a parts selection as complete as Bachmann's but I don't think you'll find a better one. Between their warranty and parts programs Bachmann offers, in my opinion, the best customer support in model railroading, at least for HO. I don't know enough to say much about other scales.
                                                               -- D
Title: Re: steam engins
Post by: nichbuhler16754 on May 22, 2013, 09:52:59 AM
Well I know bachmann has has all the goods for the tender and the chassis but it was the moter the smoke unit was bent and waires were torn in half. I still have it under my bed.  And yes it is from bachmann. I just think it might be Easier to just buy another one of the same locomotive. And not every thing is destroyed, the welees are okay still and the body is very fine, it still looks new I guess I could see if they have the parts for it though, but like I said even the DCC decoder was bent. So I don't know, I will see if they have the parts but.........
Title: Re: steam engins
Post by: Mdaskalos on May 22, 2013, 10:27:22 AM
Quote from: nichbuhler16754 on May 21, 2013, 11:54:02 PM
Ohhhhhhhhhhh and Doneldon thank you for your tip, it's just the engine I want is very cool it's the 0-6-0 #4443 union pacific, I thought it would be a perfect engine to begin with, and I got last summer but when I put it down stairs in a case and what happend was we were going fore willing and I came back and it was on the ground broken in I believe 10- 20 peaces, I was devistared my first engine distoyed, one train wreck I will never forget. I really want to get it again but.....................  I don't know, you know???

Before you take up model railroding seriously, you might want to rectify the problem that permits models in glass cases to be destroyed while you're gone. Whatever can damage something that was in a glass case and leave it on the floor  :o (cat, pet monkey, little brother, bitter exes, etc.) can have a field day with whatever will be out on your layout.
Title: Re: steam engins
Post by: nichbuhler16754 on May 22, 2013, 11:06:36 AM
I think it was our cat but..
Title: Re: steam engines
Post by: electrical whiz kid on May 24, 2013, 03:25:50 PM
I like a lot of modellers, do not run exact prototype.  I try to use logic when selecting motive power for trains, as well as concept for my railroad-a utility type bridge line connecting likely areas as Portsmouth, New hampshire, and Troy-or maybe Poughkeepsie, with connections with Maine Central, C entral Vermont, Rutland, and of course, Boston and Maine-my "competitor".  Logic will prevail with small-ish consists, local freights, way freights, and through/drag freights.  Not much emphasis is placed upon passenger runs, as the business would probably not justify the trains-besides, freight is much more fun. 
A selection of smaller motive power, such as 2-6-0, 4-6-0, 2-8-2, as well as larger beasties like 2-6-6-2, 2-10-2 for the "man-sized" freights.  Service facilities are in keeping with what runs on the layout.  In theory, whatever will do the job in an expedient manner is what is used.  Locos actually rostered on the layout are minimally numbered. Most railroads did not have a bunch of locos just hanging around-especially small roads; they made do with what they had.
Rich C.