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Title: 4-8-4 daylight loco
Post by: Gone loco on December 24, 2013, 01:57:10 AM
Has anyone fitted a dcc decoder to one of these non dcc ready locomotives, and what and how was it done.
Have a great Christmas to all!
Title: Re: 4-8-4 daylight loco
Post by: richg on December 24, 2013, 10:51:16 AM
Quote from: Gone loco on December 24, 2013, 01:57:10 AM
Has anyone fitted a dcc decoder to one of these non dcc ready locomotives, and what and how was it done.
Have a great Christmas to all!

I am assuming this non DCC ready loco has a tender with plastic wheels and a plastic drawbar. The decoder will have to be in the loco. The two motor contacts will have to be isolated from the frame.
No idea of your DCC experiences.
Older locos had a pancake motor. Some had a can type motor from some diagrams I have seen.

Below are two different non DCC ready Daylight loco diagrams.

http://www.hoseeker.net/assemblyexplosionbachmann/bachmanndaylightgs4pg2.jpg

http://www.hoseeker.net/assemblyexplosionbachmann/bachman484pg2.jpg

Rich
Title: Re: 4-8-4 daylight loco
Post by: Irbricksceo on December 24, 2013, 07:31:58 PM
Just an addition, the decoder CAN still go in the tender but you will need to add a wire between them, either by a plug or just making them permanently paired.
Title: Re: 4-8-4 daylight loco
Post by: richg on December 24, 2013, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: Irbricksceo on December 24, 2013, 07:31:58 PM
Just an addition, the decoder CAN still go in the tender but you will need to add a wire between them, either by a plug or just making them permanently paired.

You need metal wheels on the tender with pickups, plus six wires between the loco and tender.
Bachmann Steamer locos for DCC pickup on all the drivers and one side of each tender truck.
DCC needs all the pickups you can give it. Just the loco drivers will not be enough. The driver loco pickups alone are not the best for DCC.

Rich
Title: Re: 4-8-4 daylight loco
Post by: bobwrgt on December 25, 2013, 10:19:14 AM
Sell yours and get the new version. Pretty sure the new version comes DCC equipped already. Much betterdrive also.
Title: Re: 4-8-4 daylight loco
Post by: jward on December 25, 2013, 12:46:30 PM
from what I could see, if your daylight has the newer can motor with worm gear, adding a decoder should be similar to doing a split frame diesel.

jim banner did an excellent pictorial on installing a decoder in an h16-44 which should give you some ideas.

http://members.shaw.ca/sask.rail/dcc/tmaster/tmaster.html