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Title: 4-8-2 tender light
Post by: ta152h0 on October 08, 2007, 11:44:18 AM
Do HO 82506  4-8-2 's supposed to have a light on the back of the tender ?
Title: Re: 4-8-2 tender light
Post by: rogertra on October 08, 2007, 03:17:15 PM
To answer your question. maybe.

Hint.

When asking questions about a Bachmann or any other manufacturer's model it's best to give the road name and not the model number.

"HO 82506" means little to most of us but something like "Baltimore & Ohio 4-8-2" is much more usuful.
Title: Re: 4-8-2 tender light
Post by: Atlantic Central on October 08, 2007, 04:39:33 PM
ta152h0,

No, the #82506 USRA Heavy Mountain does not a backup light on the tender.

This loco is a main line locomotive, on many railroads, locos used for long hauls on the main line did not have backup lights.

Sheldon
Title: Re: 4-8-2 tender light
Post by: Beatle (TrainBrain) on October 08, 2007, 04:45:05 PM
Would be helpful, or just cool, though.
Title: Re: 4-8-2 tender light
Post by: SteamGene on October 08, 2007, 08:04:04 PM
This goes back to the train/locomotive issue. 
Gene
Title: Re: 4-8-2 tender light
Post by: ta152h0 on October 09, 2007, 10:32:54 AM
there is nothing long haul in my layout. I fall under the category of " playing with trains ' as opposed to my friends at the club, who fall under the category " serious railroaders with timetables ". I have to have a rear light so I am going to need small tubing, lamp, resistor, black paint and build one.
sounds like a fun project.
Title: Re: 4-8-2 tender light
Post by: RAM on October 09, 2007, 12:25:35 PM
I went to the Santa Fe station in Okla. City one night in the early 50s.  They backed a 4-8-2 down from the service area.  They had a portable headlight.  After they coupled onto the train they unpluged the light and removed it.  Most of Santa Fe's 4-8-2 were used only for passenger service.  The reason was that they didn't have a place for the head breakmen. Union rule, if no place to sit I don't work.  Who wants to stand up all day.
Title: Re: 4-8-2 tender light
Post by: r.cprmier on October 12, 2007, 12:43:15 PM
I suppose I could go on record as saying why don't other modellers think like me; but besides being hypocritical, it would be a self-cancelling proposition.

I have installed tender lights for running backwards on my road engines, and frankly don't give a hoot what the scale-rule richards and the prototype petes have to say.  It is my money, my railroad, my operating challenge, so all else doesn't make diddly.

My theory of operations governs what I need for power, effeciency, and ease of operation; not what happens on Darnaby's, Koester's, the NYC, or anyone else's pike!  Being a heavy-duty bridge-type road, the PT&H hauls a lot of tonnage; both raw material, and finished goods, as well as foods, between several different roads at either end.

Rich
Title: Re: 4-8-2 tender light
Post by: Atlantic Central on October 12, 2007, 01:51:28 PM
Rich,

I agree completely, I was simply pointing out why Bachmann did not include one on the model. If you want one on there its fine, many roads did have rear headlights on all power.

A few diodes and resisters, an LED and a headlight and and away you go.

Sheldon
Title: Re: 4-8-2 tender light
Post by: rogertra on October 12, 2007, 03:23:49 PM
Quote from: Atlantic Central on October 12, 2007, 01:51:28 PM
Rich,

I agree completely, I was simply pointing out why Bachmann did not include one on the model. If you want one on there its fine, many roads did have rear headlights on all power.

A few diodes and resisters, an LED and a headlight and and away you go.

Sheldon
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Exactly Sheldon.

I think both CNR and CPR had back-up lights, smaller than headlights with about a 6 inch diameter lens, on all steam locos.  This permitted back up moves at night in yards and when backing down to a passenger station.
Title: Re: 4-8-2 tender light
Post by: r.cprmier on October 12, 2007, 05:06:15 PM
Sheldon and Roger;
Thanks for clearing.  I have found a really neat way to take advantage of the yellow glow diodes offered by Tony's, et al, and Cal-Scale headlights.

It is a bit hairy, but drilling the light out does work, and installing the diode into it is a good fit.  I have used really small heat-shrink (ideal electrical) offers it in a small roll, and have usually just done one leg on a plastic body; on brass, both have to be done, for obvious reasons.   

The tender offers a dandy place to hide electricals, and the decoder will obviously handle the light in the reverse aspect of operation.   Mine really look good-not so much the "craftsmanship", but just their being there.

The brass headlights really look good in place  on the tender. 

RIch
Title: Re: 4-8-2 tender light
Post by: ta152h0 on November 09, 2007, 11:28:07 PM
verification time- reverse light is pin 2 NMRA connector )  yellow wire, blue wire return ?
Title: Re: 4-8-2 tender light
Post by: r.cprmier on November 09, 2007, 11:50:13 PM


verification time- reverse light is pin 2 NMRA connector )  yellow wire, blue wire return ?

Blue wire is common, sir.  Check your schematic.

A thought for what it is worth:  I have found that eliminating altogether the connector that comes with the locomotives and just wiring the decoders straight works better.  Less things to go wrong.

Rich

Rich