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Title: Changing Outside Frame 4-4-0 tender load to wood
Post by: McLean County on June 18, 2024, 07:57:11 AM
Hi all,

I have a number of Outside Frame 4-4-0's which come with a variety of extra pieces allowing the modeller to run the locomotive as coal burning, oil burning or wood burning.  I've changed 1 to oil burning and I'd like to change at least 1 to wood burning.  It's a simple enough process given all the extra bags of pieces.  One of those extra bags contains what could be called the "overspill" of wood from the tender.  It sits on the tender floor in front of the main tender body.  But also inside said bag are 2 small metal clips.  What are these for?

When using the coal load in the tender, the "overspill" of coal is contained in place by virtue of small lugs which slide into guides running down the front of the tender.  But no such lugs are on the wood "overspill".  I'm guessing the metal clips are used in some way to keep the wood "overspill" in place.  But how?

Thanks
David
Title: Re: Changing Outside Frame 4-4-0 tender load to wood
Post by: McLean County on June 21, 2024, 10:26:43 PM
C'mon Mr Bachmann, don't you have an answer to my question?
Title: Re: Changing Outside Frame 4-4-0 tender load to wood
Post by: the Bach-man on June 21, 2024, 11:55:55 PM
Dear Davis,
I have no idea. I'll ssee if I have a sample to look at.
Best,
the Bach-man
Title: Re: Changing Outside Frame 4-4-0 tender load to wood
Post by: Fred Klein on June 22, 2024, 11:44:45 AM
Bachman, is it possible that the little clips don't have anything to do with the wood load but rather are the jumpers that are used to convert the locomotive to straight DC? I have several Bachmann locomotives that included these "jumper clips" in the package. On my outside-framed 4-4-0, the wood load nestles very nicely into the tender and doesn't require any retainers at all. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Changing Outside Frame 4-4-0 tender load to wood
Post by: willis on June 22, 2024, 09:29:34 PM
correct, the jumpers are for DC use.
Willis
Title: Re: Changing Outside Frame 4-4-0 tender load to wood
Post by: McLean County on June 23, 2024, 03:12:44 AM
Thanks for your replies guys, but the clips are not jumpers.  I can't see any way that they could be used for DC or DCC.  The clips come packaged in the sealed plastic bag with the small wood "overspill". After fitting the wood load with metal "retaining cage" and then the "retaining board" at the front of the tender, the wood "overspill" sits on the tender floor in front of the "retaining board".  But what holds the wood " overspill" from moving?

I've attached a picture.
Title: Re: Changing Outside Frame 4-4-0 tender load to wood
Post by: McLean County on June 23, 2024, 03:15:12 AM
Maybe I should try to attach the picture - lol

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Title: Re: Changing Outside Frame 4-4-0 tender load to wood
Post by: McLean County on June 23, 2024, 07:17:11 AM
Fred and Willis, you're right, I've just seen the clips/jumpers/dummy plugs on the Spare Parts page on the Bachmann site.

But that stills begs the quesstion, how does one stop the small wood load from moving around and possibly falling off and fouling the track?

David
Title: Re: Changing Outside Frame 4-4-0 tender load to wood
Post by: Fred Klein on June 23, 2024, 10:13:04 AM
David, I've never had that happen on my 4-4-0. The wood load and overspill have always stayed in place, however, if you think this might become a problem, I would put a small piece of double-stick tape on the overspill which should secure it in place. As far as the main load is concerned, I've never had it move due to its weight. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Changing Outside Frame 4-4-0 tender load to wood
Post by: McLean County on June 23, 2024, 10:16:41 PM
Thanks Fred, good idea.  I don't think the main wood load will move but the double sided tape sounds a winner.   :)

Cheers
David