Mr. Bach-man,
Is there any chance we will ever see another run of the E60CF's? You already have the tooling, and most of the detail parts could be re-used from the E60CP's, as well as the trucks and motor. The frame would be the only thing that would have to be made new. It would be a fraction of the cost of making an all-new model. Plus, your version is was much more accurate than the American GK version, which was based on an order that was never built, and has some obvious differences. Just my two cents...
There was a new DCC onboard release by Bachmann in 2007. E60CP Amtrak Phase III, #65503 for starters. Would that fit the bill?
David Harrison
OOps...I read your first post too fast. ECP versus ECF. Sorry
David Harrison
Dear CR,
I'll pass that along.
Have fun!
the Bach-man
Coming back to this again...Conrail..there was no prototype E60CF. Are you asking Bachmann to make a model of something that never existed? There was a single cab version called an E60 and only six were built for an isolated mine to power plant operation in Arizona. Nothing like a single cab E60 ever operated on any mainline in the US.
Then two of Amtrak's E60s were sold to another isolated mine operation, but these were double ended of course and had unusual pantographs added.
Also there were 41 E60C-2s which were also double ended. Two went to still a third isolated mine operation while the others went to Mexico and were never used I believe. They finally moved back into the US a few years ago, prompting theories that they were going somewhere...but I think the "somewhere" was to a scrapper.
Now there was another isolated automated electric operation in southern Ohio, Muskingum, but they used an E-50, sort of an improved E-44. But of course the E44 family looks nothing like the E60s.
David Harrison
Okay, I apologize for my incorrect usage of E60CF. I said CF because that's what Bachmann sold it as (which was wrong, since GE never built any 'CF' version). It was based on the E60C's built for the Black Mesa & Lake Powell, which was, as you said, an isolated mine-power plant railorad. The American GK E60CF version was actually based on a GE plan (E60C-3?) for a Burlington Northern order which never materialized. And then there are the Mexican E60-2's, Amtrak E60CP's, CH's, and MA's... the E60 fun goes on and on!
I've heard rumors that some of those Mexican E60's were being sent to Montreal for use in commuter service on the electrified line there, but I'll believe it when I see it.
I beg to differ. I've seen photos of E60CF electrics. Some were running on the Black Mesa & Lake Powell.
There were one or two other obscure rail lines that ran the E60CF or E60C-2 models IIRC.
Mike
I could say the same thing about the Vanderbilt tenders offered about 15 years ago. At that time the Bach Man offered a Union Pacific consolidation, without the Walschaerts valve gear, and with a coal Vanderbilt tender, that was reasonably close to the prototype. They also sold an oil bunker tender that, behind a consolidation with no Walschaerts, could make a reasonable southern pacific engine. That's because both of those roads were Harriman roads. The Illinois Central was a Harriman Road as well, and that's whose consolidation Bachmann Model represents, not completely representative of the union Pacific or the southern Pacific, but close enough for all but the rivet counters.
But, I diverge. The Bach Man has all the tooling for those tenders. I used to be on a southern Pacific forum and those guys were all crying for the oil bunker Vanderbilt tender, paying astronomical prices when one would finally come up on eBay. There is definitely a demand for those tenders. Come on Sirs, bring those tenders back and make a quick killing in the Model Railroad market. 😂
I bought two of them back in the Jurassic. I wish I bought five.
Just wondering why we are resurrecting an almost 20 year old thread?
One reason could be asking why the Bach Man does not occasionally reintroduce items that have a proven sales record.
You're right, this is quite an old thread, thought I'd add some fun by listing and linking those old threads. (Just click to go directly to that old thread)
HO / Re: GE E60C NOT Amtrak E60CP (https://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,11308.msg92686.html#msg92686)
General Discussion / Electric Locos (https://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,10529.msg86887.html#msg86887)
HO / Re: suggestions for the New E60s to the Bachmann (https://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,5427.msg46978.html#msg46978)
HO / Re: What happened to this model.. (https://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,26491.msg200690.html#msg200690)
General Discussion / Re: What's Under the Tree (https://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,3244.msg28756.html#msg28756)
HO / Re: Great Scale Model Train Show Timonium MD (https://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,2736.msg25013.html#msg25013)