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Title: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: T-Lloyd on April 19, 2008, 09:44:00 AM
I just noticed when I run a engine over and area a bit fast a can see small blue sparks by the wheels, i think they might be small dead spots, is this normal and can it be fixed?
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: prebres on April 19, 2008, 11:00:53 AM
I believe what is happening is that when you exceed 88 scale miles per hour the DCC flux capacitor is engaging. ;D
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: richG on April 19, 2008, 11:15:17 AM
Right now I would say the track has to be cleaned.

Rich
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: Guilford Guy on April 19, 2008, 11:15:46 AM
Is it an Athearn engine?
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: Yampa Bob on April 19, 2008, 01:05:23 PM
That's funny Paul  :D

Anytime the wheels lift from the track slightly you might see a small spark, it's an arc of current across the gap. Run your finger over the track where you are getting the spark, could be a misaligned joint. Also clean the track as mentioned, the wheels could be "breaking and making" electrical contact as they pass over a dirty section.

Bob
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: T-Lloyd on April 20, 2008, 09:21:52 AM
guilford, it is a atheran engine a CN gp-35.
yampa, any suggestion for cleaning track, i dont think i do it right, i just use these scrub pads (the ones for dishes)
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: Woody Elmore on April 20, 2008, 10:57:58 AM
Go to Staples and buy some pink erasers. Use them to clean the rails. The older grey ink erasers were better but I've yet to see them on sale anywhere.

As for the engine, older Athearn had those sintered iron wheels which accumulated a lot of dirt.

You need to run the wheels while the engine is upside down. A wire wheel in a dremel works best but you could use an emory board and get good results. Just run the motor and touch the emory board to the wheels. You'll eventually get a nice clean wheel.
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: Guilford Guy on April 20, 2008, 12:41:19 PM
You could replace the wheelsets with new athearn wheelsets, follow Woody's method of cleaning, or if your a serious serious modeler, replace the wheelsets with NWSL Proto:87 wheelsets...
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: SteamGene on April 20, 2008, 01:01:58 PM
I think the dish scrub pad is probably just one step up from steel wool in something not to use to clean rails.   If you have a small layout, lintless cloth and rubbing alcohol works fine.  An artists eraser or Brite Boy is also good.  It's a good idea to rub the rails down with a clean cloth after cleaning. 
Gene
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: grumpy on April 20, 2008, 03:31:13 PM
Go to an electrical supply house and purchase a commutator eraser. It will look like a pinkeraser impregnated with an abrasive . Also what is very effective is point or electrical contact cleaner on a non fraying rag. Almost the same is Brake cleaner . Follow  instructions on can - some of these can be quite volatile.
Don ???
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: T-Lloyd on April 20, 2008, 04:25:15 PM
ao its a new engine not an old 1
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: Guilford Guy on April 20, 2008, 04:26:52 PM
Does the box have a clear plastic window on the front?
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: T-Lloyd on April 24, 2008, 02:56:18 PM
the box does have a clear plastic window...

Does a basic white eraser work as good for cleaning the track (All i have atm)
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: T-Lloyd on April 26, 2008, 09:51:11 AM
also only the athearne cn gp- 35 seems to have the problems with the track
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: Paul M. on April 27, 2008, 09:25:13 PM
I also have "new" Athearn locomotives that have the sparking problem.... my other locomotives work fine.
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: T-Lloyd on May 09, 2008, 02:24:04 PM
should i return it or is it still fine?
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: GN.2-6-8-0 on May 09, 2008, 03:41:52 PM
An emory board is a bit extreme, it's to abrasive ' using it will put micro groves in your wheel sets that'll just collect even more dirt and grunge.
instead dip a Q tip in 91%alcohol and after ringing it out use it to clean the wheel treads . repeat this process until the Q tips remain clean.
You'll most likely go through a half doz.per locomotive but their cheap and most important safe and gentle on all wheels.
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: T-Lloyd on May 09, 2008, 06:55:13 PM
ok, just so im clear, i take a Q tip with the 91%alc and use it on each wheel until nearly dry then take a different Q tip and do the next wheel and continue until every wheel of each loco is done.

how often do you think i will need repeat this? - i have a medium size railroad (4x16') and its probubly running on average 10 mins a day but right now im doing some scenery and stuff so i can't run it.
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: T-Lloyd on May 10, 2008, 07:40:51 AM
also 99% will work? (all i  have)
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: Woody Elmore on May 10, 2008, 09:05:28 AM
When I mentioned an emery board for cleaning wheels I should ahve indicated that I use the back side not the grit side.
Title: Re: Sparks under the wheels
Post by: kevin2083 on May 10, 2008, 04:01:40 PM
Quote from: T-Lloyd on May 10, 2008, 07:40:51 AM
also 99% will work? (all i  have)

even better