I have a dillema. I am going to the shop tommorow and want a new loc It has to meet these criteria, any sugestion
Slow speed
18 inch radius
cheap
Please! I need a new loco!
How Cheap? Any Geep, or steamer under six axles. Bachmann Spectrum Steam is great, but is often in excess of 100$, at least at Hobby Shops. Atlas locos are great, as are Proto 2000, and Athearn are pretty reliable too.
If one were to graph the relation of cost to quality, it would appear to be an inverse equation...
Try the Bachnam Mogul or the Pacific in their regular line . They are pretty good looking and run well . You can also try the IHC locos . They are usually of pretty good quality for the price.
Don
say, under $60 which is a high demand but I do have aa prarie and a consodilation.
just about any IHC steamer, Athearn 4 axle diesel (except genesis), or Bachmann diesel should fit those search requirements
The IHC steamers are great they can all go around 18" curves. The bigger ones cost in the $80 range but you can get a smaller one for about $60. Bachmann diesels are good but are a little loud. Athearn is nice also but may go a little over your buget.You could also try Mantua from Model Power they run very nice.
One more is the Trainman series from Atlas(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/RyanMarrs/AtlasTrainmanGP38-2.jpg) These are the same as their master series of locomotives except that they have a few less details and cost a lot less. I have one of their RS-36 locomotives and have been very happy with it.
orgot to mention I hade diesels. I just spliced off 3/4ths of the field!
Well that prety much leaves you with IHC, Bachmann Standard or Mantua.(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/RyanMarrs/IHCPacific.jpg) (http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/RyanMarrs/Bachmann2-6-2.jpg) (http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/RyanMarrs/Mantua0-6-0.jpg)
The IHC GG-1 is an excellent buy if you can find it (just make sure it's the newer "Premier Series" one.)
Timothy
Those are very nice how ever they probaly still fall under the diesels catagory.
Really? He just said he doesn't like diesels, not that he only wants steam. Those are two completely different statements. At any rate, the GG-1's styling is completely different from any North American diesel (not sure about foreign prototypes).
Timothy
Yeah, i'll admit the gg1 is classy
I already found the pictures when you posted that so thought I would put it on any way. Here is a comparsin between a GG1 and an E8.(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/RyanMarrs/300px-Amtrak_No_928.jpg)(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/RyanMarrs/300px-Rock_Island_locomotive_652.jpg)
Where did they find that tank car?
Gene
Daylight, you really should check your spelling, we don't know if you meant "I have diesels" or "I hate diesels". :) You can use the preview to proof what you write before you hit the post button.
What tank car?
Anyone notice the rear pantograph raised up to the catenary electric lines on the GG-1 photo?
I'm gonna guess that the GG-1 might not be a Diesel.
edit: added "pantograph", moved and corrected catenary spelling
Bing bing bing, we have a winner!!!!!. The GG1 is infact an electric loco
Just because it is an electric locomotive does not mean that it does not look like a diesel.
We're talking about a GG-1 here, not an E44. It looks nothing like a diesel.
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff83/Penncentral/pictures162763112106Harrisburg.jpg)
On the other hand, there were some steam locomotives that do look like diesels...
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff83/Penncentral/up1.jpg)
Timothy
Not a fair comparsin your taking one of the best looking eletric locomotives and comparing it to one of the uglyest diesels. Try something more like this.(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/RyanMarrs/300px-Rock_Island_locomotive_652.jpg)(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/RyanMarrs/675759093_c3b87a83d3.jpg)
Which proves that "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". :D
I like the GG1...... but I still think that it looks like a diesel. Thats not a bad thing though because I like diesels to.
When you buy it please post what you bought. ??? Thanks
The headlight and streamline style strikes resemblance, but the GG-1 is much more better if your not a diesel fan, for me, I'm only going to have one steamer, and possibly only diesels for my layout. But steamers are awesome, if you want something that is pretty cheap, I check e-bay. But then you get the threat of getting scammed, and so forth. Some electric locomotives were very identical to diesels:
(http://www.budd-rdc.org/sets/photos/drm12.png)
That engine is in fact, a third-rail electric! But of course, the GG-1 isn't just an electric locomotive, it's the biggest one! I would go on that GG-1 hunch, they look so neat, and that's not just by pictures, I've seen one in person, huge suckers! Saw it at IRM. But by guessing by all the little add-ons to the electric third-rail, I'd guess it was a commuter.
Frisco,
Look to the right (your right) of the nose of the GG-1 and you will find a steam/transition black tanker between two boxcars, neither of which have roof walks and the N&W obviously doesn't have full ladders. BTW, if you want to have realistic scenery with a GG-1, you are going to have to string wire!
I'm sure that all you diesel guys know that the diesel engine's sole purpose in life is to generate electricity for the traction motors that actually propel the locomotive.
Gene
Frisco,
Let's just agree to disagree. I still think that the GG-1's resemblance to an E8 is remote, but there are a few similarities.
Santa Fe,
What you posted is an EMD FL9, a dual-mode electric-diesel-electric. It is basically just an ordinary EMD FP9(a diesel-electric), equipped with third-rail pickup that could bypass the diesel engine and power the traction motors directly. In practice, they proved to be fairly temperamental.
Of course, some electric locomotives were indeed, externally nearly identical to deisels, like this GE E44:
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff83/Penncentral/PCE44.jpg)
Timothy
In the USA the biggest electric locomotives by far were the W-1 class of the Great Northern Railroad. They made even the rather large GG-1 look like a short-line loco.
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/tr_gn5019.jpg
tac
www.ovgrs.org
Quote from: tac on October 27, 2008, 12:36:11 PM
In the USA the biggest electric locomotives by far were the W-1 class of the Great Northern Railroad. They made even the rather large GG-1 look like a short-line loco.
Now that is a good looking eletric locomotive.