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Title: DCC & analogue use
Post by: piblonko on February 11, 2009, 06:01:17 AM
I have run a basic Bachmann E-Z COMMAND DCC unit with no problems on DCC or with analogue locos using channel 10.  I bought a second hand Bachmann Niagara 4-8-4 loco with steam & it runs intermittently & when it does its very jerky in action.  What would cause this, any ideas please?
Title: Re: DCC & analogue use
Post by: Tylerf on February 11, 2009, 09:42:46 AM
-Bad contacts/dirty track
-lubrication
-dirty wheels
-motor problems
Title: Re: DCC & analogue use
Post by: Joe Satnik on February 11, 2009, 12:28:11 PM
Dear piblonko,

Maintain and troubleshoot the areas specified by Tylerf using a DC power pack.  When fixed, then go DCC.

Hope this helps. 

Sincerely,

Joe Satnik 
Title: Re: DCC & analogue use
Post by: piblonko on February 11, 2009, 05:02:53 PM
Thanks Tylerf & Joe I did what you suggested & it works on DC but not on DCC. 
Title: Re: DCC & analogue use
Post by: piblonko on February 12, 2009, 03:53:08 AM
Asking around town a few people say they have had the same thing.  Seems like the older locos don't like the Bachmann E-Z Command DCC using channel 10.  If they are left on too long or you persist trying to get it to work the motor just burns out.  So I'll use this on my smaller layout using DC.
Thanks for the suggestions.
piblonko
Title: Re: DCC & analogue use
Post by: Jim Banner on February 12, 2009, 01:13:52 PM
I seem to remember a Niagara with a flat motor and a capacitor across the brushes.  Bachmann?  Lionel?  Something else?  I don't know.  But if you have one like that, try removing the capacitor (clip one lead in the middle so you can reconnect it later if you want to.)  Such capacitors are well known for affecting silent decoders.  But less well known is that they can draw enough current from a DCC source that they overload it, particularly if the motor draws a lot of current too.  This can cause the locomotive to run well on dc but poorly or not at all on a DCC source, such as your E-Z Command.

While snooping around inside your locomotive looking for capacitors and flat vs. can motor, lubricate everything that moves.  Light oil on the ends of the motor, axles, shafts and side rods; gear oil or light grease on gears.  Be sure to use plastic compatible oils and greases from the hobby shop as regular oils and greases can destroy your locomotive.