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Title: DCC engine on DC
Post by: gbray on February 17, 2009, 07:37:58 PM
Hey I am new to the DCC have been using DC since I was young, but I recently bought the Spectrum 4-8-2 mountain DCC/DC equipped with sound. I realize I am nt going to get the full benefits of the sound on DC but as I give it throttle on a scale of 1 to10 at 3 I get the stationary sound, at5 I get the horn and the chuff but the engine does not start moving till I give alot more throttle and the chuffing started way to early. Is this common or is there something in the way of programming that I can do ?I also woundered once you go DCC can you still run a DC wired loco?
Title: Re: DCC engine on DC
Post by: Jim Banner on February 17, 2009, 09:10:57 PM
Many decoder equipped locomotives require more throttle to run than do their dc counterparts.  This is because the electronics in the decoder needs power before it can start feeding power to the motor.  Most sound decoders let you program when the chuffing starts in relation to motor voltage.  If you have a friend with a DCC set that can change CVs, it should be possible.

When you go to DCC, you can still run one of your dc locomotives along with your DCC ones.  Just keep an eye (or a finger?) on the temperature to prevent the motor from overheating and don't let the dc locomotive sit stopped on a DCC powered track for more than a few minutes.  My guess is that you will like DCC so well that you will want to add decoders to your favorite dc locomotives.
Title: Re: DCC engine on DC
Post by: Yampa Bob on February 17, 2009, 10:31:25 PM
For what it's worth, I currently have one sound loco, a diesel with Tsunami installed.  With my EZ Command DCC controller I get engine sound which is well matched to the throttle, along with bell, short horn, long horn, lights on/off/dim.

You will enjoy the sound a lot more when you switch to DCC. The CVs in my Tsunami could probably benefit from a slight tweaking, but I'm very satisified with the sound.
Title: Re: DCC engine on DC
Post by: Hunt on February 17, 2009, 11:25:35 PM
Caveat
Not all DCC systems support the running of an analog locomotive. Some that once did have removed, for good reasons, the feature from their current DCC system.
Title: Re: DCC engine on DC
Post by: OkieRick on February 17, 2009, 11:48:32 PM

Does your transformer / power pack have a "Momentum" switch on it?  If it does try turning it Off.  My Proto 2000 2-10-2 with DCC & Sound reacts a little faster with it off.  BUT...that's a part of the fun of DCC & Sound, sitting and listening to the od iron steamer come to life, building up a full head of steam, whistles & bells as it pssssssssss leaves the yard and chuffs it's way to HO gauge top speed.

I'm in the same boat - trying to decide on which DCC Command system to invest in.

You drink coffee?  Get a cup, start your locomotive, let it do what it can on a DC track.  Enjoy your coffee.

Luck & enjoy,
Rick and stick