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Title: decoder installation in a small tender ( Bachmann ten wheeler#82302
Post by: ta152h0 on April 15, 2009, 01:22:56 PM
Tender too small to house a steam sound decoder so i need a flat car with junk loaded on it to hide the decoder printed board itself. the speaker wire is long enough to go back to the locomotive. So i have a three vehicle installation and I bet a case of beer I am gonna get flamed by the club  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: decoder installation in a small tender ( Bachmann ten wheeler#82302
Post by: Santa Fe buff on April 15, 2009, 02:13:43 PM
Interesting solution. Keep us posted, and tell us how it goes. By the way, could you tell us what sound decoder your using?

Joshua
Title: Re: decoder installation in a small tender ( Bachmann ten wheeler#82302
Post by: ta152h0 on April 15, 2009, 02:17:30 PM
Absolutely, an MRC # 1629. And if I could be taught how to get images on the answers, that would be appreciated.
Title: Re: decoder installation in a small tender ( Bachmann ten wheeler#82302
Post by: ta152h0 on April 15, 2009, 02:24:20 PM
just got hit with a thought. A flat car with a load covered by a taro, perhaps a 30 footer, would fit almost any period.
Title: Re: decoder installation in a small tender ( Bachmann ten wheeler#82302
Post by: Santa Fe buff on April 15, 2009, 03:02:57 PM
(http://www.modelrec.com/images/products/250/0001629.jpg)


HO Gauge Synchronized Steam Sound Decoder with 12 Sound Functions



Dimensions: 47.0mm x 17.5mm x 5.2mm

Good choice.

You right-click the picture, and the little menu pops up. I scrolled down and selected "Copy Image URL". Then when you go to reply, you hit the image button (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/Themes/bachmann/images/bbc/img.gif) and two 'img' things should pop up. Paste the URL you copied between the two ][ . That's exactly how I posted your decoder picture above.

Joshua
Title: Re: decoder installation in a small tender ( Bachmann ten wheeler#82302
Post by: ta152h0 on April 15, 2009, 04:27:24 PM
oops didn't work
initial setup
Title: Re: decoder installation in a small tender ( Bachmann ten wheeler#82302
Post by: rustyrails on April 15, 2009, 04:38:57 PM
I own a ten-wheeler, and have been doing some research on adding sound.  I know that I found a picture of a decoder and speaker all wedged into that little tender.  I'll see if I can't find it again and post it here, or at least a url. 
Rusty
Title: Re: decoder installation in a small tender ( Bachmann ten wheeler#82302
Post by: richG on April 15, 2009, 05:10:03 PM
I installed a speaker and Micro-Tsunami in a 4-6-0 with 52 inch drivers and small tender. tender.
Here is how it was done at Litchfield Station.

http://litchfieldstation.com/DCC-University/install/HOSS/Bachmann-4-6-0-826102.htm

You can face the speaker up or down. My installation, the speaker faces up. Both methods work. Experience, not opinion. Drill a bunch of small holes in the plastic coal load. With a thin coating of glue, sprinkle on some coal to finish. Some people do not bother with the coal.

Rich
Title: Re: decoder installation in a small tender ( Bachmann ten wheeler#82302
Post by: ta152h0 on April 15, 2009, 06:04:52 PM
The tender shown in the pictures is a very large tender, almost as long as the locomotive itself. the tender on mine is less than half as long as the locomotive. Even removing the board and soldering the decoder directly to the pickup is still a challenge. My goal was to not modify/cut up the tender that came with the locomotive. I am headin' out to radio Shack later on and see if they have small piezzo speakers
Title: Re: decoder installation in a small tender ( Bachmann ten wheeler#82302
Post by: richG on April 15, 2009, 07:01:15 PM
Here is my installation. I should have used the speaker recommended by Litchfield. It is half the thickness.

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,5661.0.html

Do not use a Radio Shack piezzo  device. You will be disappointed. You need a 1.1 inch OD speaker that is .22 inch thick.
http://www.litchfieldstation.com/xcart/product.php?productid=410105

You can do this without removing the center pole but it will be a challenge. You can also drill holes in the tender frame and point the speaker down.

DO NOT FORGET THE 1K RESISTOR FOR THE LED. YOU DO NOT WANT TO TAKE APART THE LOCO TO REPLACED THE LED. THAT IS MUCH WORSE THAN THE DECODER INSTALLATION.

Decoder and keep alive capacitor. I made my own mounting points for the shell.
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/richg1998/Spectrum%204-6-0/Decoderontender-1.jpg)

You need to use some ingenuity. Your mileage may vary.

Rich
Title: Re: decoder installation in a small tender ( Bachmann ten wheeler#82302
Post by: jerryl on April 16, 2009, 01:09:27 PM
Quote from: ta152h0 on April 15, 2009, 01:22:56 PM
Tender too small to house a steam sound decoder so i need a flat car with junk loaded on it to hide the decoder printed board itself. the speaker wire is long enough to go back to the locomotive. So i have a three vehicle installation and I bet a case of beer I am gonna get flamed by the club  ;D ;D ;D
Check Tony's Train Exchange.. they have done this in the small tender.   Jerry
Title: Re: decoder installation in a small tender ( Bachmann ten wheeler#82302
Post by: richG on April 16, 2009, 03:25:03 PM
Quote from: jerryl on April 16, 2009, 01:09:27 PM
Quote from: ta152h0 on April 15, 2009, 01:22:56 PM
Tender too small to house a steam sound decoder so i need a flat car with junk loaded on it to hide the decoder printed board itself. the speaker wire is long enough to go back to the locomotive. So i have a three vehicle installation and I bet a case of beer I am gonna get flamed by the club  ;D ;D ;D
Check Tony's Train Exchange.. they have done this in the small tender.   Jerry

Do you have a direct link to alleged install at Tony's Trains, not tonystrains.com?

I looked around but could not find it. I would like to have the direct link for others who may have the same question. Thanks.

Rich