Ok, Trying to find a 4-4-2 Atlantic, Anyone know of any that are out there that are not kits? Or anyone know a good HEAVY Pacific I can kitbash into one. I'd like to see Bachmann do one in Spectrum as they have the best small steamers out there.
Currently you are out of luck.
Bowser has two custom builders that they recommend, scroll to the bottom of: http://www.bowser-trains.com/ for thier kits.
Model Power is not yet listing the Mantua Classics Atlantic.
There are a few 4-4-2 steam locomotives listed on ebay.
Kit bashing one from a heavy Pacific does not make sense; its boiler is too large a diameter, even for a PRR E6, and it's firebox is far too large.
An alternate approach is to do the reverse of what PRR did to get the G-5 4-6-0 class which were based one, and shared many components with the E6 4-4-2. The E6 and the H8/9/10 2-8-0 classes also shared many components.
You are willing to bash, why not just build a kit - less work, and usually better results because the precision fitting is done for you.
The Spectrum K4 4-6-2 is a HEAVY Pacific.
What i'm trying to Model is a B&O A class Atlantic, which had 74 inch drivers. and the boiler would be cut down on the pacific.
The latter versions of the Mantua Atlantic are easily kitbashed into very nice models. They run well and came in a number of variations that can them be detailed and modified. They do however represent an 80" driver loco.
They are currently out of production but can still be found new in the box at train shows, on ebay and by simply shopping around.
Model Power would do well to get these back on the market considering the totoal lack of any in the market currently.
Sheldon
Quote from: BaltoOhioRRfan on April 08, 2007, 04:59:24 PM
What i'm trying to Model is a B&O A class Atlantic, which had 74 inch drivers. and the boiler would be cut down on the pacific.
Okay, you definitely do NOT want to start with a Heavy Pacific.
See: http://www.northeast.railfan.net/bo_steam1.html
It lists the B&O class A as 4-6-0, but A-1 thru A-9 as 4-4-2....
But: http://orion.math.iastate.edu/jdhsmith/term/slusbo.htm
Lists the class A as 4-4-2; but none with 74" drivers.....
In any case, I have very limited knowledge of B&O steam.
Lets go with you want a Baldwin (like B&O #1427) 4-4-2 with 74" drivers, of mid '20s through the end of steam appearance. I would suggest starting with the superstructure from a Spectrum high drivered 4-6-0, and building a chassis from a shortened Bowser K11 4-6-2 chassis, but using Bowser's 72" drivers (easy to get, close to 74"). You will probably need a smaller motor to fit, too.
One i'm aiming to do is an A-3 built by Baldwin, I think bachmanns 4-6-0 boiler is a little too small for a 4-4-2 B&O, but I'd have to see the two engines side by side as in the one Photo in this book I have makes it look like it a shortened Pacific.
I do not remember what the driver size is on the MDC roundhouse 4-4-2 is.
Quote from: BaltoOhioRRfan on April 08, 2007, 04:59:24 PM
What i'm trying to Model is a B&O A class Atlantic, which had 74 inch drivers. and the boiler would be cut down on the pacific.
Why not use the Mantua Atlantic as a starting point for one of these? http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/BO1474.JPG
I'm not sure of the B&O class, but they were copies of the Pennsy E-3 IIRC. You'd need a set of Walschaert valve gear, but you could use the one made by Bowser for the E-6.
Andre
Quote from: andrechapelon on April 09, 2007, 08:29:59 PM
Why not use the Mantua Atlantic as a starting point for one of these? http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/BO1474.JPG
Hi Andre;
The Mantua Atlantics have 80" drivers.
I had another thought overnight - a Bowser 4-4-2 chassis, but substitue the 72" drivers. Still with the Spectrum tall drivered 4-6-0 superstructure.
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