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Title: could you make one of these?
Post by: pdlethbridge on April 23, 2010, 02:28:00 PM
I hate to keep asking, but a different pacific is needed in your line of beautiful engines. This is what I suggest.
It could be made with removable shrouding and smoke lifters
(http://www.divisionpoint.com/photos/B+M_P4s/B+M_3710a.jpg)
Title: Re: could you make one of these?
Post by: jbsmith on April 23, 2010, 09:24:04 PM
I would settle for some Pacific class in a roadname besides PRR.
I have nothing against the once mighty PRR, it is just that other roads used Pacifics too.
They would look great with passenger Heavyweights .
Title: Re: could you make one of these?
Post by: Guilford Guy on April 23, 2010, 09:40:33 PM
Athearn sold them in the 1960s. I don't see why Bachmann can't now. :P
Title: Re: could you make one of these?
Post by: pdlethbridge on April 23, 2010, 10:16:01 PM
Especially seeing that the only remaining one will soon be coming back into service.
Title: Re: could you make one of these?
Post by: ABC on April 24, 2010, 12:00:44 AM
Quote from: Guilford Guy on April 23, 2010, 09:40:33 PM
Athearn sold them in the 1960s. I don't see why Bachmann can't now. :P
I think it might be because they come in a road name no one could possibly want: B&M. Actually it takes a lot of money to invest in new locos and before they make anything they have to make sure it is worth their while. For example, for some companies are satisfied with a ten thousand dollar profit whereas larger companies need a hundred thousand profit to make it worth their while.
Title: Re: could you make one of these?
Post by: Doneldon on April 24, 2010, 12:18:46 AM
"ten hundred thousand?"  Isn't that a million?  Oh, I know.  A typo.
Title: Re: could you make one of these?
Post by: Guilford Guy on April 24, 2010, 12:27:56 AM
On a different note. The tooling still exists in a workshop in Pennsylvania. Yes 1960's models are crude, but it would be nice if parts/shells and whatnot could be acquired to build a fleet of B&M 4-6-2s.
Title: Re: could you make one of these?
Post by: Pacific Northern on April 24, 2010, 07:09:59 PM
Quote from: Guilford Guy on April 23, 2010, 09:40:33 PM
Athearn sold them in the 1960s. I don't see why Bachmann can't now. :P

Did you forget the Genesis Pacifics?
Title: Re: could you make one of these?
Post by: Guilford Guy on April 24, 2010, 07:28:07 PM
No, those were USRA models I believe, not B&M.
Title: Re: could you make one of these?
Post by: pdlethbridge on April 24, 2010, 07:37:58 PM
These and the R1 D's were considered super power. note this quote from steamlocomotive.com
3713 (Edward G. Weinstein collection)
At Boston's North Station is 3713. Lima built in 1934, it was named "The Constitution". In 1958, it was sold to F.N. Blount, to become part of the original Steamtown collection. Despite its wheel arrangement, this locomotive, along with B&M 's R series 4-8-2s is as deserving of that dubious term "superpower" as any four wheel trailer trucked contemporary.
These were not light engines, they needed rail that was 116lbs per yard minimum. They could run 125 miles between water fill ups and 250 miles on the coal. With 80" drivers could spend all day running at 70 mph plus.
Title: Re: could you make one of these?
Post by: hotrainlover on April 25, 2010, 08:47:20 AM
Is the K4 pacific on the "Hit" list??? 
Title: Re: could you make one of these?
Post by: Guilford Guy on April 25, 2010, 11:54:55 AM
Quote from: hotrainlover on April 25, 2010, 08:47:20 AM
Is the K4 pacific on the "Hit" list???  
Yes, there's an underground movement to overthrow the PRRs at be.
Title: Re: could you make one of these?
Post by: RBMN #425 Fan on August 15, 2010, 10:20:10 PM
on thing i'd like to see is the K-4s's moved to the DCC Sound range!
Title: Re: could you make one of these?
Post by: ebtnut on August 16, 2010, 12:00:53 PM
Believe it or not, when Athearn orginally did that B&M Pacific, they tried to use their "Hi-F" rubber band drive in it.  I don't know if any of them made it into the public market.  They quickly realized it was a failure and reworked it with a standard worm and gear drive.  Not many of those models were made, and very few survive.  I friend of mine has two, and won't even think of parting with them. 
Title: Re: could you make one of these?
Post by: jonathan on August 18, 2010, 08:58:06 AM
Performing a search of this forum, it seems that quite a few of us are hoping for a Spectrum quality Pacific model decorated in a number of popular road names.

This begs the question, is there a marketing reason for not producing the 4-6-2?

I have noticed that two manufactureres already make Pacifics.  The first manufacturer features the metal construction they have made for several decades now.  I understand they pull quite well.  Unfortunately, the models are pretty generic and lack correct details and paint schemes.  However, they do seem to sell well.  Understandable, since superdetailing and a new paint job make these quite reliable models.  I did it to an old Mikado (from the same manufacturer).  Runs pretty well for an antique.

The second manufacturer has promised Pacifics (in popular road names) for about three years now.  This manufacturer is known for nice running, well detailed models.  Their Pacific has yet to hit the market, let alone a release date.

I believe the competing market would make a Spectrum Pacific less than profitable for our favorite steam maker.  We will probably have to wait until the market clears of the current Pacifics available.  Just a guess.

I would certainly snap up a nice Spectrum Pacific if one was ever made.  The standard PRR model is too unique to be decorated for another railroad.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: could you make one of these?
Post by: Guilford Guy on August 18, 2010, 02:53:44 PM
Most 4-6-2s had very distinctive features. The ones being produced are models of the USRA design 4-6-2s.