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Title: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: Heinz D on June 01, 2010, 04:26:58 PM
Hi
does anybody know what will the next large scale engine be? Till now we got the largest one ever built Bachmann engine, the Rio Grande K-27. What will coming next from Bachmann? A C-18, a C-19, a K-28 or maybe a K-36?
Does somebody knowing something about?

Heinz
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: mickeykelley on June 03, 2010, 10:51:29 AM
It's so top secret that they could tell you, but then they'd have to kill you.  So is it really worth it??????????????  Or just enjoy the anticipation?????????
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: armorsmith on June 03, 2010, 03:39:43 PM
Actually the Mallet was the newest of the large scale engines released by Bachmann.  As for the future.....that's any one's guess. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: Bucksco on June 03, 2010, 04:33:34 PM
The Forney is the newest large scale locomotive.
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: mudhen on June 03, 2010, 07:22:17 PM
My thoughts on another G scale, Narrow Gauge engine coming soon, are as followes.
Why would Bachmann spend thousands upon thousands of dollars tooling, duplicating engine all ready out there. The C-16 by Aristocraft, C19 & K28 by Accucraft and Logging engines are almost complete too. The Shay, Climax, and Heistler, and some with auxiliary tenders , and in different tonnages too.
The Forney is great too. Many road names no even done by Bachmann, can still be done.
To think that Bachmann, has not even finished with changes they can make to there K-27 line
Like different cabs, tenders, and paint schemes. Example.... # 453 with a green boiler, an other engines tender like #456, larger head lights front and rear and even different types of snow plows. Some cabs like # 455 in 1951 only had the rear window on both sides, the front one removed and filled in.   
My guess is we will just have to wait for the next big Train Show or Convention to see what the Bachmann crew has to supprise for Us.
Anticipation is wonderfull, but on the other hand it sucks big time. What ever it is, I know it will be as good or even better than what they have produced already. They my raise the bar again. we can only hope so.
God, Listen to me, you would almost think I worked for Bachmann, I don't, wish I did. Did I say that with my outside voice ?
Love there Narrow Gauge stuff.   
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: trainguy111 on June 03, 2010, 10:13:37 PM
Here is what I hope they come out with:

http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=850
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1567
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=883
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=5455
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=487
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1597
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=390
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1825
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/242T-tenderMARR2.jpg
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/440NPC21L.jpg
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/080-etwnc.jpg
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/082TCyprus4.jpg
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/WPYR/diesel/95_(10).JPG
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/WPYR/diesel/114_(1).JPG
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/WPYR/wpyrrailcars/railbus5.jpg
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/WPYR/early-steam/Duchess_36_inch_%281%29.JPG
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: armorsmith on June 03, 2010, 11:32:31 PM
Jack, et al,

I may have mis-understood the comment, in that I read it to mean in the larger size narrow gauge locomotives, not necessarily large scale in general.

Large scale in general, Jack is right, the Forney is the latest.  In size the Mallet is the latest.  I hope this clears up my comment.


Bob C.
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: Kevin Strong on June 04, 2010, 03:25:18 AM
QuoteWhy would Bachmann spend thousands upon thousands of dollars tooling, duplicating engine all ready out there. The C-16 by Aristocraft, C19 & K28 by Accucraft and Logging engines are almost complete too.
One would hope for the same reason they did the K-27, which was also done by Accucraft--to bring one out at a price that the common man can afford. I'd snap up a C-19 in a heartbeat. The EBT had one that's just begging to be modeled, but I'm not going to spend the $2500 - $3K for the Accucraft one to cut up and toss half of it.

Of course, a smaller 2-8-0 would be nice, too--something like this, perhaps?

(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/eastbroadtop/EBT3/EBT307.jpg)
more here: http://tinyurl.com/EBT2803 (http://tinyurl.com/EBT2803)

Later,

K
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: samevans on June 06, 2010, 01:53:45 PM
Given the current economic situation if I were Bachmann I'd  take the Centennial 4-4-0 and 2-6-0 and update them.  A mix of steel and/or more modern wooden cabs, smooth or fluted domes, air brakes, Lima style Arc head lights or electric headlights , extended smokeboxes, shotgun stacks, and tenders modified for coal or oil firing rather than wood.  This upgrading  was done on real railroads.  The resulting locos may have more appeal than the old-time fprm, and require less new tooling than a brand new loco thus getting a better return on the earlier tooling..
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: Kevin Strong on June 06, 2010, 07:38:39 PM
QuoteI'd  take the Centennial 4-4-0 and 2-6-0 and update them.
That'd be nice, too...

(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/eastbroadtop/TRR2/TRR232.jpg)

Later,

K
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: samevans on June 07, 2010, 08:09:45 AM
Possibly including a choice of domes /tender tops?
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: Heinz D on June 07, 2010, 08:54:44 AM
Hi to all,
wondefull modells Kevin. Accucraft is a very expensive brand. Most of us don't touch a modell in this price range. Nobody like to loose the collector value. Bachmann engines with their lower price as Accucraft are wonderfull material for such scratchbuilding fun as Kevin is showing us.

3 different scales for rolling stock.  ??? Since many decades of years we had 1:24 (US 1/2" to 1 foot) and the European Gauge IIm 1:22,5, known as LGB. Look in 25 years old Narrow Gauge & Short Line Gazettes and you'll find many half scale stock. We have since some years the back calculated scale of 45 mm model-trackgauge to 3 foot Narrow Gauge: 1:20,3.
With the falling down of LGB to a really small branch-business of the Märklin group, the scale 1:22,5  is no more really common for US NG.

The Aristo classic line with their C-16 is wonderfull. I have them all three genuine from Delton locomotive works. Originally they was constructed as halfscale 1:24, but I was in Gunisson climbing up on the 268 and took the prototype dimensions. In reality the cab hight is exactly 1:22,5. But these modells are really small at the side of 1:20,3 modells.

Some 1:22,5 rolling stock is now to small and has to be replaced by 1:20,3. Two ways to do that. Blow up 1:22,5 by scratchbuilding practice, or sold by ebay and buying new from Bachmann in the fitting scale. Which way is the better one? I think the answer is not for every modell the same. About these reasons I've postet my question about news of coming soon big prototype large scale engines like the Rio Grande engines.

Maybe somebody knows something about this topsecret affair  ::)

Heinz
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: jsmvmd on June 09, 2010, 06:02:52 PM
Dear Friends, Mr. Lynch et al,

With the tooling on hand, I would like to buy an Indy, or three !  Just love those little pullers !  Of course, marketing and economics prevail.  Just my two centavos.

Best Wishes,

Jack
Altoona, PA
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: trainguy111 on June 09, 2010, 10:14:59 PM
If they decide to do gauge 3, here is a excellent idea:

http://www.drgw.net/gallery/DRGW01/drgw_01_saltlakecity_ut_1938_000

And here is something for Gn3, too.

http://www.spec2000.net/rr_site_pages/rr_ngdrg4/drg268c16yel.jpg
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: Udo on June 10, 2010, 01:22:28 AM
Hello together !
I have just received an "INDUSTRIAL MOGUL" (Indy ?) from Bachmann Shanghai.
A few days earlier, they offered this as "NEW".
It is item No. 91552
2-6-0 MIDWEST QUARRY & MINING CO No. 3
I cannot find this loco in any catalogue, so I guess this is a new one.
Or is it just the rest of the old one, sold in 2002? But this was No. 1 I guess.
Hope it is a new one and will be available in the US also.
I think, a lot of people look forward to a tiny loco like this !

Udo
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: tac on June 11, 2010, 06:26:11 AM
Quote from: Udo on June 10, 2010, 01:22:28 AM
Hello together !
I have just received an "INDUSTRIAL MOGUL" (Indy ?) from Bachmann Shanghai.
A few days earlier, they offered this as "NEW".
It is item No. 91552
2-6-0 MIDWEST QUARRY & MINING CO No. 3
I cannot find this loco in any catalogue, so I guess this is a new one.
Or is it just the rest of the old one, sold in 2002? But this was No. 1 I guess.
Hope it is a new one and will be available in the US also.
I think, a lot of people look forward to a tiny loco like this !

Udo

Udo, this little loco, much-missed by many, is long-gone from Bachmann's workshop.  Many of us would like to see this, and the Climax, back in production, as both are small locos more suitable to small-scale operations that many of us have these days.

Best

tac
www.ovgrs.org
Supporter of The Cape Meares Lighthouse Restoration Fund
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: Udo on June 11, 2010, 09:33:34 PM
Hello Tac,
the question is, is that loco coming up "new", as they announced it on the webpage from Bachmann China some days ago (I immediately ordered one, when I saw it), or do they just sell some old stock over here?
Here in China it is sometimes a little strange.
The K27 they offered only about one year after it came up. The 2-6-6-2 nearly the same time as in the US market.
The long caboose was never seen here.

Udo
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: tac on June 12, 2010, 05:30:23 PM
Quote from: Udo on June 11, 2010, 09:33:34 PM
Hello Tac,
the question is, is that loco coming up "new", as they announced it on the webpage from Bachmann China some days ago (I immediately ordered one, when I saw it), or do they just sell some old stock over here?
Here in China it is sometimes a little strange.
The K27 they offered only about one year after it came up. The 2-6-6-2 nearly the same time as in the US market.
The long caboose was never seen here.

Udo

As Pliny the Elder didn't say 'Ex China semper aliquid novi...'

Since you live there, you must have a far better understanding of what is going on than the rest of us.  AFAIK, the 'indie' production stopped back around 2006, and has never resumed.  If you know more than that, perhaps you could pass it on to the rest of us who are keen to get our paws on one [or more] of the great little locos'.

Best from the West

tac
www.ovgrs.org
Supporter of The Cape Meares Lighthouse Restoration Fund
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: Udo on June 12, 2010, 10:07:27 PM
Hello Tac !
Good, that I have learned some Latin around 50 years back.....
Surprisingly, it's still enough to understand.....
Because I never saw this loco before in any of the 3 Bachmann shops in Shanghai, and suddenly it came out on there webside, I thought, it's something new.
Did that loco come out earlier with the number "3" also?
What I found in the internet is No. "1" only.
To get some information from Bachmann here is very difficult. You just have to keep an eye on their webpage and from time to time go in their shop at Shanghai Wuding Road, where the Bachmann Club is located.
Just have a look on the Chinese Webpage with an automatic translator (the translations also often give a lot of fun to read !!!).

Udo
Title: Re: is another big engine coming soon?
Post by: vic on June 12, 2010, 10:10:59 PM
Another large engine?

Yes

Later this year you will get a G scale "James the Red Engine" from the Thomas line, thats the ONLY confirmed new LS item for 2010, everything else is just intrigue. :o