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Hey everyone, I made this topic so you can express your favourite locomotive for Bachmann to produce  :D
Mine would have to be:
1. Some form of Heisler (about the size of the Climax preferably)
2. A Garratt (Victoria Railways G42 or a SAR NGG13/16 would be nice)
3. A WWI War department Baldwin (10-12-D class)
Who knows, maybe Bachmann might produce your favourite locomotive ;)
Cheers :)

Considering my favorite locomotive has been produced (ET&WNC #12) I would like an inside frame 2-8-0,either from the Lawndale, or my personal favorite ET&WNC #6.
2.) 2-6-2 tendered engine
3.)ET&WNC #7, and 0-8-0 switching engine.
4.) A Heisler.

Rock On!
Dusten

Since I lean towards small locos, my first choice would be a Class NA 2-6-2 from the Puffing Billy railway museum in Australia.  Next, an EBt #16 to pull some of the hopper cars.  this might create some interest in Eastern NG RR'ing.  We have a Tweetsie 4-6-0 already.

Yes, I know, thats why I said, they've already produced my favorite engine#12. ;D I should have put a #1 beside the inside frame 2-8-0 either ET&WNC #6 or one of the two lawndale vulcan 2-8-0s.

Rock On!
Dusten

1. A 2-6-2 in both tank (a la Puffing Billy) and tender (a la Sandy River) versions;
2. Spare tenders of all types;
3. A Heisler;
4. 2-4-2s like the large scale versions.

1..Mason bogie!!! any of them.

2. C-16

3. RGS number 20 4-6-0

4. Westside Heisler

5. D&RGW  T-12 4-6-0

I may purchase more of the current OF 4-4-0 or OF 2-8-0.  However, I will not be obtaining any forth coming locomotives unless they are:

1) Any Argent Lumber Company locomotive

2) A NG-16 Garratt

3) The long wanted Heisler!!!!!!!!

As a small locomotive man myself, and as I live in Australia, I would love, in order

(1)  the Puffing Billy 2-6-2 tank locomotive, note that there was a similar, although not identical, Hawaiian 30 inch gauge loco.

(2) a garratt, preferably K1 the original garratt that operated in Tasmania, Australia and is now preserved in Wales, although I would buy any reasonably small garratt, and

(3) a world war 1 narrow gauge loco such as the ALCO, Baldwin etc. 2-6-2 tank (used by the British and US forces) or the Baldwin or Hunslett 4-6-0 tanks.

Hamish

This would be nice: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=283950
SAR NG15 class 2-8-2, made by several manufacturers, I chose this because one of our Garden Railway members has ordered one from Accucraft, look good with our Accucraft Garratt ;D
Cheers :)

Ok here you go:

K-27 in D&RGW/RGS versions (a reliable engine as your 1:20,3 model)
RGS 74 (to me one of the most beautiful engines)
RGS 20 (which could be built on the base of the 4-6-0 as I have done...)
C-21 and C-25 (since I have doubts that MMI will ever produce them)

D&RGW T-12 !

Heisler, best: Westside Heisler No.3 !

SR&RL No.24 (which I always call a ´lil K-27-maybe that´s the reason I like her that much..)

Wow, that would probably last for 15 years of fun to come... :D :D :D
Cheers, Tom ;) ;) ;)

...and by the way: when RGS 20 get´s back to the Colorado Railroad Museum in 2011 fully operational, lots of more people will get to know her. More people - more buyers in the coming years!!! ;D

Tom ;) ;) ;)

2-6-2. Any configuration. Lots of prototypes out there, both tank and tender, foreign and domestic if you go with a Baldwin design.

Mark

I'd go for these:

1.: H E I S L E R (Westside #3 preferred)

2.: 3-truck Shay

3.: small WW1 ng Alco / Baldwin

4.: Industrial 2-6-2 tender

Cheers Dieter

I imagine a Gilphin style Shay or even an early Dunkirk or Climax would be fun :D
Cheers :)

Well, they've already done the small Shay (granted its not a Gilpin).  If you mean by "early" Climax, the Class A, that would be a very good thing, especially for eastern logging.  Some Class A's even made it to the southwestern Pacific islands.

My choices:

1.  A Baldwin 8-18-C 4-4-0, like this:  http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=336432&nseq=9

2.  An inside-frame, non-Colorado 2-8-0 - The Lawndale locos would be just fine by me.  We've already had the BLI C-16 and the MMI C-19.

3.  The Sandy River RR outside frame 2-6-0 "Old Star"

4.  A small Heisler.  I'd be OK with a Westside loco, but I'd prefer one that is a bit more generic.  Maybe like the Tionesta Valley engines.

5.  A Beyer-Garrett, like the NGG-13/16 mentioned earlier.  One of these is running on a private estate in Texas.

6.  One of the SR&RL's smaller 2-6-2's.

I think the most ask for locomotives on this site has been the Baldwin 4-4-0 and a heisler. the fact that neither has been made is probably due to  not being able to get the 4-4-0 to take 18" curves and the geared engine problem for the Heisler.

                                                             Royce

Quote from: Royce Wilson on September 02, 2010, 02:21:59 PMthe fact that neither has been made is probably due to  not being able to get the 4-4-0 to take 18" curves and the geared engine problem for the Heisler.

I'm not sure I understand your argument. Bachmann already makes a 4-4-0 in On30. (For that matter, the Forneys, which are essentially 4-4-0s with the boiler on backwards.) I'm not in On30, so I don't know if they can take an 18" radius or not. If they can, then why would there be an expectation that any other 4-4-0 would not; if they can't, why the expectation that another one should?

As for the Heisler, I'm not sure what you mean by "geared engine problem." Mechanically, I can't imagine it any more difficult to power a Heisler than the Shay they already produce. I know I've seen other On3 Shays, Heislers, and Climaxes sitting on the store shelves. Rivarossi made an HO scale Heisler. It's definitley been shown possible in terms of drive.

I'll add my votes for the Heisler and a 2-6-2, inside and/or outside frame. The thing I like about On30 (despite not modeling in it for time/space reasons) is its inherently "freelance" feel. For that reason, I'm just as happy to see manufacturers pick more generic prototypes than any one specific iconic locomotive (unless they can do so and make it easily regaugable to please the On3 crowd).

Later,

K

Kevin, the Baldwin 4-4-0 that I made mention  is the 8-18-C. It was more of a catalog locomotive that was used by just about every American narrow gauge .


                                                             Royce

Yes. It's the one Bachmann produces in 1:20.3. That version begrudgingly fits around a 30" radius, and from what I've read, the On30 Bachmann 4-4-0 has been tested on radii as tight as 12"(!) An 18" radius is every bit a reasonable expectation for an On30 version of a Baldwin 8-18-C, so I don't see that as being a reason for it not being produced as you suggest.

I heartedly agree, I think a model of that in On30 would have had more of a general application in terms of a reflection of what many narrow gauge railroads used than the Brazilian (?) prototype they chose. On the other hand, they had the drawings in house from their 1:20.3 version of the 8-18-C, and they still opted to go with something different. There had to be a reason for that--what it was, who knows? I'd love to see an 8-18-C in On30 because they could do the same thing with that in terms of making it a 2-6-0 (and for that matter, a 2-8-0) using the same boiler, cab, and tender.

Later,

K

I still want the 0-4-0 side tank loco like the large scale version they produce and with sound.
Or Maybe even the 2-4-2 lyn euro and American style

NM

No other words necessary.....

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2606/3841889187_d4410efa19_b.jpg)

Quote from: ebtbob on September 05, 2010, 10:14:08 AM
No other words necessary.....

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2606/3841889187_d4410efa19_b.jpg)

Yes there are-- "In 1:20.3 FIRST!!!"  ;D

Later,

K

Heck, I would just be content if they made ore loads for their v-dump ore cars!

Hi Mike,

if you don'twant to scratch loads, have a look at the homepage of FireboxModels:

http://fireboxmodels.com/fbmHTML/htmlintro.html (http://fireboxmodels.com/fbmHTML/htmlintro.html)

They offer loads for B'mann v-dump, wood siede dump and gondolas.

Regards Dieter

Thanks Dieter! That is exactly what I was looking for.

Quote from: Kevin Strong on September 02, 2010, 06:19:56 PM

Quote from: Royce Wilson on September 02, 2010, 02:21:59 PMthe fact that neither has been made is probably due to  not being able to get the 4-4-0 to take 18" curves and the geared engine problem for the Heisler.

I'm not sure I understand your argument. Bachmann already makes a 4-4-0 in On30. (For that matter, the Forneys, which are essentially 4-4-0s with the boiler on backwards.) I'm not in On30, so I don't know if they can take an 18" radius or not. If they can, then why would there be an expectation that any other 4-4-0 would not; if they can't, why the expectation that another one should?

As for the Heisler, I'm not sure what you mean by "geared engine problem." Mechanically, I can't imagine it any more difficult to power a Heisler than the Shay they already produce. I know I've seen other On3 Shays, Heislers, and Climaxes sitting on the store shelves. Rivarossi made an HO scale Heisler. It's definitley been shown possible in terms of drive.


Later,

K

In fact there have both been the tiny inside frame 4-4-0 and the larger outside frame 4-4-0 (which was primarily an export locomotive IIRC) and both handle 18" no problem, so why another one wouldn't, who knows.

But the gear issue is with regard to the gears cracking in the Climax and Shay locomotives, also the rail truck.  Sure they can make a Heisler, but can they make one that won't be out of service in need of replacement gears in 6 or 12 months?  (FWIW, they're not the first to have this problem - most Athearn HO USRA 0-6-0s from the early 60s don't run today because of a cracked main gear). 

Hey, lvrr, you must be about as old as I am to remember those Athearn USRA 0-6-0's.  I had one of them and also the Little Monster 0-4-2T.

I'd love to see Bachmann bring over the GE 44 ton and 70 ton diesels from their HO line.

I will second MarK T's wishes for the 44 and 70 tonners.

Quote from: Kevin Strong on September 02, 2010, 08:26:50 PM
Yes. It's the one Bachmann produces in 1:20.3. That version begrudgingly fits around a 30" radius, and from what I've read, the On30 Bachmann 4-4-0 has been tested on radii as tight as 12"(!) An 18" radius is every bit a reasonable expectation for an On30 version of a Baldwin 8-18-C, so I don't see that as being a reason for it not being produced as you suggest.

Later,

K

An accurate 8-18-C wouldn't go around an 18" radius. An HO Mantua 4-6-0 set up as a 4-4-0 will begrudingly make 18" and it is smaller than the 8-18-C.

(http://www.55n3.org/image/4-4-0.jpg)

The Mantua conversion in 55n3 which is 7/8 of O scale.

The Bachmann 4-4-0's get away with it because of design. The small 4-4-0 has 18" pilot wheels and the cylinders spread from it's two foot prototype. The OF has the cylinder's spread because it is outside frame and the pilot wheelbase is longer than the prototype.

Harold

Harold, compare the distance from the forward driver to the cylinders on the converted 4-6-0 and the 4-4-0 in the drawing. The pilot truck is easily a full 1/2" farther forward on the model than on the loco in the drawing. Closing that gap to a more prototypic distance changes the geometry completely. I guarantee you that you can fit an On30 8-18-C around an 18" radius with room to spare. The geometry in play is linear. If a 1:20.3 model can fit around a 30" radius, then a model built to the same design that's less than half its size will fit around a radius that's proportionally identical in that given scale. (i.e, a 1:20 loco is to a 30" radius as a 1:48 version of that same loco is to a 12.5" radius.)

Later,

K

Nah! The Roundhouse HO 4-4-0 has problems on 18".

To talk about a 8-18-c:

(http://www.55n3.org/photos/spc_3.jpg)

The 4-4-0 plan in the first picture was a smaller 4-4-0. The above picture is the 55n3 4-4-0 compared to SPC #3. A Scale48 4-4-0 would be 15% bigger since Scale55 is 7/8 of Scale48.


Harold

EDIT: Both plans are Scale55

Harold, you're missing my point. Scale has nothing to do with the equation. It's all geometry. There are three points in play. The rear driven axle, the forward driven axle, and the front pilot. The rear two points are fixed, the front one has a degree of lateral play designed to get it around curves. The closer the distance between the forward driven axle and the front pilot, the less lateral swing there is needed on the front pilot truck. The greater that distance, the greater the lateral swing needed.

I'm not talking about what the Roundhouse or any other specific HO-scale locomotive may or may not be able to do. I'm talking specifically a geometry that's been mechanically shown to work, and translating that to 1:48.

Measuring the 1:20.3 4-4-0 that's on my shelf, there's 4" between the drivers, and 5" between the forward driver and center of the front truck. The front pilot has 1" of lateral swing, exclusive of the lateral play in the pilot wheels and the frame (arguably an additional 1/8" either way of center.) This is sufficient for the locomotive to negotiate a 30" radius curve. That's probably the far extreme of what it can do, but it can do it.

Now, enter those geometric points into any drawing program. Next, change the scale of the ruler on the drawing. The relationship of the points to one another doesn't change. Proportionally, they're the same distance from one to another. The distance between the front point and forward driver is still 1 1/4 the distance between the rear and forward driver. The lateral play of the front pilot is still 1/5 the distance between the pilot and forward driver. The only thing that's changed is the particular unit of distance being used to measure those distances.

Therefore, if the drawing is done with the 1:20 measurements, the resulting "maximum" curve would be 30". If you change the scale to 1:10, the resulting curve becomes 60". Make it 1:1, the resulting curve is 600". (Note that the prototype locomotive wouldn't have what would scale to 20+" of lateral play in the front pilot.) Reducing the scale to 1:48, the resulting curve is 12.5". Based on geometry, a locomotive built to the same plans as Bachmann's 1:20 8-18-C, but in 1:48 would be able to handle an 18" radius curve without issue because the demonstrated minimum would be much less.

Later,

K

I would like to see an On30 version of the Fort Wilderness Railroad locos and passenger cars, which were built by Walt Disney Imagineering in the 1970s, and ran on 30" gauge tracks.  While I really like the Disney paint scheme, a basic black version would also be cool.  Here is a photo of the Large Scale model:

(http://www.mylargescale.com/1stclass/PeteThornton/photos/Misc2009/Tuckahoe2009/IMG_3257-FWRR-6.jpg)

These locos were slightly scaled down versions of 36" gauge Olomana, from Hawaii.  Which would also be a good choice.

(http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/locomove/images/olo5.jpg)

manager

And to add to the 4-4-0 discussion, I really like the lines of this little HOn3 brass loco, as painted and detailed by John Olson, on the cover of the May 1977 Model Railroader.

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_NQJq9Cudp4Q/TJeEZww2eEI/AAAAAAAAAeg/FRgHyxYJUgc/9bde.jpg)

manager

I'm pretty sure that the Olson loco is one of the old NWSL "Spartan" locos.  They did both a 4-4-0 and a 2-6-0 in HOn3 with the same superstructure, tender, etc.  They were tender drive, so didn't pull a lot.  They were low-cost, leaving it to the buyer to detail as they saw fit.  I have one squirreled away somewhere that I "modernized" as it might have appeared ca. 1920.  These are not to be confused with the On3 Spartans, which were models of specific Baldwin designs.   

Good eye, ebtnut.  The MR article describes the process of adding detail and painting the Spartan model.  I'm not sure what the exact prototype is, but I really like the proportions.

Then again, I bought the LS Bachmann 4-4-0 because I like the proportions.  Can't run it anywhere, but it's a brilliant piece of 3D art.

manager

K-27 1st
c-19 or 21 2nd
How about a true On30 Mallet

Quote from: radar on September 21, 2010, 07:34:35 AM
How about a true On30 Mallet

(http://www.55n3.org/locomotives/mallet/image/2662_Ingenio_9.jpg)

As radar said:

1st:  K-27 including the 455 RGS post-wreck (just as Fn3 scale)
2nd: C&S 74 / RGS #74
3rd: The long awaited Heisler - to me: preferably a West Side Lumber Heisler...

No we won´t give up to pray for a H...... !!!!

Cheers, Tom ;) ;) ;)

I'd love to see a K-27 28, 36....
And let's not forget the 44, 45 & 70 ton diesels

NO!!!! dont say k..... i didnt make the curves on my layout big enough...... i dont want to have to rebuild.. cause i sure couldnt restrain myself from getting one of each
:o

I would remind folks that MMI has done the K-27 and K-36 in both On3 and On30, at a price that would not be much more than what Bachmann would have to charge.  They also did the C-19, and have announced plans to do the C-16.  See the ad in the new NG&SL Gazette.

Then that leaves us with a Heisler and a 4-4-0 that everyone wants! and last but not least the RGS 20. ;D


Royce

Or an inside frame 2-8-0.

Rock On!
Dusten

Even though MMI has done the Mudhens, I'm sure Bachmann could bring them in at an acceptable price point (below $500) and I'm guessing they might run a bit smoother and have the coupler at the right height for the rest of the Bachmann equipment and be dcc ready (no need to remove the boiler) ...wishful thinking :)

Quote from: Royce Wilson on September 22, 2010, 02:21:33 PM
Then that leaves us with a Heisler and a 4-4-0 that everyone wants! and last but not least the RGS 20. ;D


Royce

i dont

This thread is about dream locos, i.e. the loco you would really like, whether or not it is a likely project for Bachmann to make. Mine are the "puffing billy' 2-6-2 tank and the K1 Garratt,and  no I don't really expect either.  Some however have turned this into a what Bachmann should make thread and seem to assume that their interests are everybodies, e.g. assertions about a proper 4-4-0. All locos are proper! and not everybody wants large 3 foot prototypes. I want and need (space reasons) small locos.

Hamish

I have to agree with you Hamish. If the new sound equipped Porters have the correct sound package and operate properly, I will be a happy modeler.

Hamish, you are very right and I apologize for that statement. I once was lucky enough to meet a famous book author, Mallory Hope Ferrell, in a local hobby shop. he told me that there was no such thing as a ugly steam locomotive.

The Puffing Billy is not high on my personal list ,but it sure is a pretty and intresting locomotive and given all the great modeling that has come out of Australia then I really think those guys need a model produced.

Happy modeling

Royce Wilson

Royce, you are right about the MMI K-27. I´ve got three of them and just one runs halfway acceptable. Poor electric pickup which I think to reconstruct by adding extra wipers on the tender, and a tend to derail, even on wide curves. Bachmann could do definitely better, I´m sure. I´ve a Bachmann RGS 455 post-wreck here and if you look at the awesome running gear construction - wow...

RGS 20 would be a cool thing - we will see her under steam in 2011 I hope...
RGS / C&S 74 would be cool too...

And that 3rd type of geared engine we are (nearly...???) hoping for...
This H-word is nearly worn out to type it here... :( :( :(

Cheers, Tom ;) ;) ;)

Tell you what, a larger shay would be nice, something like bachmanns large scale 1  ;D
Cheers :)

Yeah, I definitely agree: A more "modern" Shay, the Ely Thomas Lumber No.6 for example, would be a cool thing to have... Or a Westside, or.... :) :) :)

Cheers, Tom ;) ;) ;)

Oregon Lumber Company #7 - still operating in NW Indiana at the Hesston Steam Museum.

Great cabbage stack and a large three truck Shay - the last narrow gauge one ever built.

Now its time for the first big narrow gauge diesel engine.

So I'm asking for any diesel engine of the White Pass & Yukon Route (WP&YR)

For example the GE class 90: Number 90-100

(http://www.whitepassfan.net/whitepass/images/bespr003ge94wt196307xx.jpg)

or the Alco 101-110

(http://www.whitepassfan.net/whitepass/images/11019780528.jpg)

and final the Bombardier 111-114

(http://www.whitepassfan.net/whitepass/images/p101074920030531.jpg)

But please don't make the LGB error. Please make any engine in full O scale 1/48.
The LGB engine was not correct in dimension, but very sucessful in number of sales.
Boerries http://www.whitepassfan.net

As far as road diesels go, my first vote is for something like the Oahu Railway & Land Co/Cumbres & Toltec/Georgetown Loop center-cab GE's. My second would be the 90 class, since GE built similar locos (admittedly meter-gauge) for Argentina and other countries.

I confess that I do wonder what the 90 class would look like in D&RGW passenger-F colors.

USA 3000/White Pass & Yukon Route 81 would be great!

Largish switcher that was an actual variable gauge locomotive!

After its years at Skagway it went to South America.

Perhaps Boerries could post a photo of the 81!

A class B shay 3 cylinders 25-38 tons like the large scale one Bachmann made.

Hey, guys - I'm with J.A.M...... I think an early 12-14 ton Vertical Boiler Climax and/or
a T-Boiler version would be Great !  Take the basic design from the NWSL HO/HOn3 models -
Absolute beauties !!!!! Yea, I know Car Works makes Brass Models of these - But with the exceptional tooling that Bachmann has created, I 'm confident they could come up with a "killer" look.

I have  to  add  my  two  pennyworth  here!
I would  welcome  a  LARGE 0n30  diesel loco
(I also model Large scale in the  Garden and  have  a  couple  of  WP&Y  diesel Locos)

I am looking  at  Rich yoder's GE 50 Tonner  but  I think  the  price  is  a bit high  although it  will probably be  a brilliant  model.

A Mason-Bogie, any of them. Any 6-drivered Maine 2footer. Any EBT.

AMason Bogie would be better than sliced bread! The way it is designed makes it a natural for tight curves and lets don't forget they were the Cadillac of locomotives for that time period. Yes they were limited but so was the outside frame 4-4-0 that Bachmann produced and the outside frame 2-8-0 ..lets se some Bogies!!!! ;D

Royce W

Royce, that would be another goodie to have here.

Preferably with a coupler mounted on a connection to the rear truck. Not the way the Forney is constructed as the Forneys tend to shove a lightweight freight car out of the tracks in very tight curves.
This can be solved with a add on coupler pocket which can swing free to give the coupler a bit more space to move, but please Bachmann, if you prefer to build a Mason bogie one day, please keep this in mind...

Cheers, Tom ;) ;) ;)

Quote from: Royce Wilson on October 05, 2010, 05:05:18 PM
AMason Bogie would be better than sliced bread! The way it is designed makes it a natural for tight curves and lets don't forget they were the Cadillac of locomotives for that time period. Yes they were limited but so was the outside frame 4-4-0 that Bachmann produced and the outside frame 2-8-0 ..lets se some Bogies!!!! ;D

Royce W

Oooh, Mason Bogies...

Check out this beauty - not sure if it's a photo or computer generation, but it's gorgeous.
http://www.bunkspeed.com/news/news_sw_plugin_1.html

As much as I like the run-down look most of us put in our locos, a classy painted engine like that would be irresistible.

Scott

Scott, this lokie is a dream!
Even such a engine would not fit to my era/region, I couldn´t resist...

Cheers, Tom ;) ;) ;)

My Dream Loco is an On30 version of the Sumpter Vally 2-6-6-2 No.250.

That Sumpter Valley 2-6-6-2 would be a nice engine and what about a Uinath version.

Royce

Quote from: ebtbob on September 05, 2010, 10:14:08 AM
No other words necessary.....

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2606/3841889187_d4410efa19_b.jpg)

My thoughts exactly!  ;D

-Nate

I would LOVE to see a Mason Bogie!! One of my favorite locomotives. However I wouldn't mind see this either.  ;)

(http://www.augustastationmaster.com/stationmasterjournal/DVRR2Oct089x520.jpg)

I think it'd make a nice companion for the OF 2-8-0.

The Mason Bogie would be a winner! but don't forget Americas favorite ten wheeler, RGS 20...don't know why Bachmann did not make it instead of that Tweetsie engine? :P

Royce

I'm going to overlook that remark about "that Tweetsie Engine."

I'm not sure if the RGS 20, is america's favorite ten-wheeler; it sure isn't mine.

Rock On
~Dusten

I vote for a 3 truck Climax similar to the new HO one I have, and a big huge, did I say big?, vote for WP&Y Alcos, espicaly the road switcher units.   I used to have a LGB G scale one.  HOn3 versions from PSC are almost impossible to find and pricey.   The White Pass would open up a whole new market segement for Bachmann's On30 line up with freight cars, the unique caboose, the ore cars ect.  And doing a EBT Mikado works as well as White Pass had a Baldwin Mikado as well.    Mike

Would it be possible to add one more driver to the IF 4-4-0 and make a smal mogul?
A baldwin like we are wanting, would this work?

Royce ::)

how about an outside frame prairie

Well I've given it some more thought and I would REALLY like to see the Emma Nevada in On30.
(http://www.donwinslow.net/images/Railroad/Steam/grizzly%20flats%202%20perris%204-03%201034.jpg)

Also I would like to see a Heisler, 2 truck preferably.
I wouldn't mind seeing a class B Dunkirk either!  ;)
(http://www.gearedsteam.com/dunkirk/images/blaisdell.jpg)

Quote from: Royce Wilson on December 08, 2010, 09:24:51 AM
Would it be possible to add one more driver to the IF 4-4-0 and make a smal mogul?
A baldwin like we are wanting, would this work?

Royce ::)

If you can find one, put an IHC HO 2-6-0 chassis under it.  Should come out just like you want.  I have a similar-dimension plastic kit I'm planning to do the same with, as soon as I find a beater that's priced reasonably. 

I have bashed moguls using the old IHC running gear, I was just trying to suggest a cheap way for Bachmann to give us a nice and small freight locomotive during these troubling finincial times. ::)

The Sandy River number 5 Hinkley would be a nice model and fit on a lot of small layouts, also the Baldwin 2-6-2T trench locomotives of WW1 and the British 4-6-0 Hunslet would be awesome! they would be small for HO scale!

Royce

As for the coments on John Olsens loco just take a look at Disneylands #2 C K Holliday or even Walt Lilly Belle which Bachmann already makes. It's pretty much the same loco with a few embellishments  added to it like the antlers on the Headlamp. I would buy up a Disney loco in a heartbeat. Plus you have the added buying power of the casual Disney shopper at one of the parks or Disney stores buying the product even if they do not model in that scale or even if they model at all. Crappy little New Bright set sell for 100 buck a pop a Disneyland and they don't even look like a Disney loco but at the park there is a HIGH I Want factor at play. The semi accurate model of the Lilly belle by heartland  sold out in a manner of days and let's not even get started on extremely expensive accurate model that accucraft made a little while later. I know people that bought models just to put on the shelf!
  So for me it would be C K Holliday (4-4-0)
                                    E P Ripley (4-4-0)
                                    Earnest S Marsh (2-4-0)
                                    Fred Gruley (2-4-4T Forney)

I'll cast my vote for any Garrett Bachmann would choose to manufacture. A unusual and very attractive loco type that would work well in 0n30.

Any of the EBT mikes or M1.  Even a loco like M7 would be interesting.

Hey!! What about a "Left Handed" Shay!!? ;D ;)
(http://www.gearedsteam.com/shay/images/octaviano_b_cabrera_co_4.jpg)

And NO, this is NOT an altered photo!!

Maine 2-Foot locos:
- Portland 0-4-4 (SR&RL, B&SR, KC, WW&F)
- SR&RL #19 and WW&F #6  2-6-2
- WW&F #4/ B&SR #4 Porter 0-4-4

Let it please be something "really Narrow Gauge" for us "narrow minded" freaks...

-Logging:         West Side Heisler, preferably No.3 or No.2
-Logging:         A more "chunky" and modern Shay
-Logging:         The long overdue... H...... engine, no-I´m not saying the H-word again...

-Colorado:       RGS 20 and RGS 74/C&S 74
-Colorado:       A reliable and well detailed K-27, just your Fn3 model in On30 please (including RGS 455)

-Maine:            SR&RL No.23 (somehow a "lil Mudhen to me - beeing a Colorado Narrow Gauger...)

That´s not much, isn´t it...?  ;) ;) ;)

Please lift the secrets a bit what´s coming next. We all know about the struggles all the companies have been through and still are, but I think it would be time to let us know what´s out of the hat next...

Happy new year to you all out there.
Tom :)