Hi everyone...
does anyone know where i can find a williams santa fe caboose ? I been checking williams dealers and Ebay for while and much to my suprise, nobody has it. I would like to add this caboose to my santa fe sd-45 which i purchased last week. can you help ?
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany
Tiffany,
Have you tried Marty at Ma & Pa Junction in Maryland? www.ma&pajunction.com
He might have one.
I have not seen a new Santa Fe caboose in the Williams by Bachmann line-up.
Lee F.
Hello Phillyreading.....
yes, thats too bad as theres few santa fe diesels and steamers in the williams line. i just will have to look in the MTH railking line and see what they have LOL.
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany
Tiffany,
A little advice about lighted cabooses, I have a Lionel lighted caboose that shorted out at the center rail pick-up on the wheel assembly.
MTH might be better to go with than the Lion as MTH don't break down on me.
Lee F.
Dear Tiffany and all,
The Williams Cabeese are a reproduction of the post-war (1946 - 1969) Lionel N5C "porthole" models.
From http://www.tandem-associates.com/lionel/lionelcarcab.htm
"The Lionel N5C Porthole Type Caboose .. began to be available in 1953. It is based upon a prototype that was used by the Pennsylvania Railroad. Lionel would produce this caboose with the Lionel Lines, Lehigh Valley and Virginian road names applied to this caboose, even though the Pennsylvania Railroad was the only prototype railroad that used this style of caboose."
(My emphasis added.)
I have a five Old Williams catalogs, 2003 through 2005.
The Santa Fe (ATSF) caboose (#CAB122) appears in only in my earliest catalog, the Contemporary Line Winter 2003 - 2004, so it must have sold out.
It is red, with a yellow cupola, black roofs and yellow lettering.
Lee,
I had an MTH lighted caboose that shorted the track.
From an old B'Man board reply of mine:
..."The quality of MTH's Rail-King cabeese vary wildly. I have an excellent Chessie bay window, and a poor NYC woodside, whose item numbers are only a few digits apart.
The shorting on my woodside was caused by the magnetic uncoupling "thumbtack" touching the center rail. If the uncoupling pin does not re-seat perfectly (is off-center) after you uncouple, it holds the "tack head" down to the middle rail. The shorting path is the center-rail, tack head, uncoupling lever, die-cast truck, wheels, and outside rails. Ka-Zap."...
Hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Joe Satnik
Tiffany,
I found some Santa Fe caboose's at www.choochooauctions.com
your choice of Lionel or MTH. These may be used but in good condition mainly.
Joe,
My problem is with a Lionel caboose # 17605 that shorted out at the wheel assembly with the center rail roller.
Lee F.
hello Phillyreading and Joe Satnik......
thank you for helping me out... I found the "rugged rails" center cab steel caboose made by MTH, stock # 33-7810 for almost 20 dollars. I think it will look good with my williams SD-45, next are few (8) freight cars to go with it.
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany
Tiff,
I really like Rugged Rails, especially the flat cars with sports car loads....great bang for your O-27 buck.
May be sold out, though, and hard to find.
Good hunting.
Sincerely,
Joe Satnik
Try here:
http://www.krrbmodeltrains.com/rurarafrca.html
I'm pretty sure the rugged rail series item numbers start with "33-" ...
Hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Joe Satnik
hello Joe Satnik........
oh yes !!!!!! i will be trying to find some Rugged Rail frieght cars, just needed at least 8 cars as my small layout is only 43 inches by 93 inches LOL. too bad MTH didnt make a Rugged Rails auto carrier car but liked the railking #30-7628 with 4 bright colored cars. Mr. Satnik.. do you have a layout yourself ?
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany
Dear Tiffany,
Well, not permanently set up.
I have 3 concentric O-31 (hi-rail tin plate track) ovals using 31", 42" and 54" diameter curves.
I have layout #39 in O-27 (low-rail tin plate track) from Linn Westcott's "Track Plans for Sectional Track", 2nd Edition (144 Track Plans), which is a double crossing 59" x 112" pretzel.
They get set up on the floor at Christmas, or on a whim, which ends up being a "second" Christmas, with kids taking cars out of their window boxes.
Not much to inspire you, but if you want that, pick up a copy of "Classic Toy Trains" magazine......
They seem to get better every issue, with "affordable" layouts increasing. (My budget can't handle acre-sized dream layouts..)
Hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Joe Satnik
Quote from: Joe Satnik on September 09, 2010, 09:41:38 AM
Try here:
http://www.krrbmodeltrains.com/rurarafrca.html
I'm pretty sure the rugged rail series item numbers start with "33-" ...
Hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Joe Satnik
Joe---
Not to steal someones thread, but, checked above site looking for a Rock Island caboose (I've been looking for one for several months). KRRB had exactly what I was looking for, so I bought it. Just wanted to say thank you for posting the KRRB site. :)
Bob
Hello Mr. Joe Satnik..........
wow that's MORE than i have SMILE. my layout is just a plain old oval with 3 track yard, using the lionel fastrack o-36, 3 manual switches that's it. i sure would like to put at least 10 plasticville buildings on it but i am on tight fixed income. i have 2 williams engines sd-45 and 2-8-4 berkshire and williams 4 car semi-scale 60 foot madsions and one williams boxcar and rugged rails MTH caboose on the way. what kind of engines you have ?
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany
Dear GTBob and Tiffany,
Sorry about the delay responding.
Bob,
You're welcome. Glad it helped.
Sometimes even a blind bat can hit a home run.
Tiff,
My main engines are a Williams Chessie GP-38 (ca. 2003), a Lionel 2046 steam (ca. early 1950's), and a Lionel 217 B&M Alco AB pair (1959).
You might enjoy this website:
http://www.postwarlionel.com/
Hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Joe Satnik
Edit: grammar
Hello Mr. Joe Satnik.......
I remember that i had # 2383 F-3 frieght set in 1968, the price was 83 dollars at Dooley's harware store in long beach ca. when i was little girl, I ran the wheels off of this engine LOL.
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany
Blurb:
http://www.postwarlionel.com/cgi-bin/postwar?ITEM=2383
Shell of 2353:
http://cgi.ebay.com/LIONEL-POSTWAR-2353-SANTA-FE-F3-DIESEL-ENGINE-SHELL-/260665589005?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item3cb0e13d0d
Hello Mr. Joe Satnik..
well i found a MTH railking santa fe caboose # 30-7720 for 19.95 and it on its way to my apt. now i guess i have a caboose so next are the freight cars and there so many to choose from "HELP" LOL. Joe how good are the chrome plated plastic tank cars such as MTH "coors-light" beer tanker ? are they good plating or easy to scratch ?
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany
Dear Tiffany,
I'm not sure about the chrome plating.
I know that the chrome finish on Lionel's plastic engines from half a century ago didn't last too long. It's possible they have made progress since then.
Perhaps a coat or two of Future floor wax might help.
Others more knowledgeable, please chime in.
To me, the biggest thing in buying rolling stock is "what actual scale is the body". Many O-27 size freight cars are closer to 1:64, and are totally dwarfed by true O scale (1:48) sized bodies.
You could have 2 separate trains to run, one O-27, the other "scale", or "closer to scale".
Remember that couplers and wheel flanges are way over-sized in 3-rail-O, so you can't get too serious about being "in scale".
Hey, who says you have to buy rolling stock...
You could start scratch-building a fleet of your own tankers.....go get a six-pack.....
Just remember not to crush them on your forehead.
Sincerely,
Joe Satnik
Hello Mr. Joe Satnik.....
I do remember back in 1980's the lionel chrome plated F-3's and you're right as the plating was not good. I think i am going to pass on the chrome tank car and get the regular painted ones. I know the truck couplers are OUT of scale but i didnt care. I dont crush cans on my forehead but i seen guys do that and i dont get it ? maybe its a male ego thing i guess......
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany
Also remember that real railroad cars came in different sizes.This occurred at least twice in the twentieth century after both world wars.The largest differences could be seen in the 1960s and 1970s.
Tiff,
An uncanny failed attempt at humor on my part.
Here's the kind of size difference I'm talking about:
http://s837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/joebarb/SPC/?action=view¤t=DSCN1262.jpg
In a consist they look out of place next to each other.
Though Roger makes a good point about different size prototypes, the larger hopper tracks nicer than (doesn't derail as often as) the smaller.
Adding weight to the smaller/lighter hopper would make it track better.
Hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Joe Satnik
Joe,
I agree.
Hello Mr. Joe Satnik......
I agree too..... becasue i sat my williams 2-8-4 berkshire beside my williams sd-45 and its like that 4 bay hopper vs. 2 bay hopper in the picture. the sd-45 should be in area of 65 feet long and the berkshire with 12 wheel tender be least 98 feet long so the berkshire is under size,shorter and that is ok i like it too much to let it bother me.
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany