I just bought the 62301 locomotive, which is advertised as DCC on board. I ordered from Ehobbies.com. When it arrived I noticed that the unit was not DCC. I check by applying it to my track, and sure enough, no DCC. What's up with that? I have been in contact with Ehobbies and I am waiting to hear from them. I don't want to have to deal with shipping it back, but I want what I thought I was going to be getting. Please Help.
It sounds like your loco was probably advertised as DCC ready and is only DCC ready. It is possible that they got the DCC version mixed up with the DCC version and sent you the wrong one.
Well, it falls inline with the DCC gp30s in Bachmann's catalog and is advertised as DCC on board at every online vendor I have seen it on. They do not show this scheme as just a DC model that I have seen. Internettrains.com also has it advertised with decoder.
I don't know what locomotive it is, but it is something you will have to take up with the dealer you purchased the locomotive from.
Is your GP30 a Spectrum? If it is it won't be DCC on board. Those are not manufactured any more. Very nice locos though. One way to check for sure is to remove the shell/body. If the chassis is a large heavy, dark frame then it is a Spectrum. If the chassis is a light colored frame then it should be DCC on board. The DC only version has a circuit board but it is different than the DCC ready or DCC on board. Hope that helps some. Stephen
No it is not a spectrem, it is advertised as DCC on board.
You need to get back with your seller! I just checked the Bachmann catalog and #62301 is DC only. Check the on line product information to verify. Stephen
They are not the only ones selling it as having dcc on board. I have been in touch with them, and I am waiting to hear back from them.
I went to the internettrains.com website and it is not advertised as having DCC, while on the ehobbies.com website it is shown as DCC but it is an obvious mistake, you could tell by the pricing that it would not have DCC.
Quote from: ACY on May 19, 2011, 07:04:25 PM
I went to the internettrains.com website and it is not advertised as having DCC, while on the ehobbies.com website it is shown as DCC but it is an obvious mistake, you could tell by the pricing that it would not have DCC.
That's funny, because if you browse by catagory, and not do a search it is there plane as day.
http://www.internettrains.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=IT&Category_Code=HSCLOCDSLBAC30D
There it is, the second one from the left.
I just went to that link and there is nothing there saying it's dcc. The one left of it is and the last three are.
Kevin
at the top of the page it says Bachmann DCC equip Locomotives at internet model trains .but on the page it shows 5 diesels that are not advertised with DCC and 4 that show with DCC .so the top of the page with the 62301 listing are wrong . and need to sererate the add to the 5 that are DC on a separate page and the 4 that are DCC equipted on a separate page
so looks like you bought a DC locomotive . off a bad page add like I did a few times ,due to I didn't do enough reading and researching . those glancing blows got me everytime .
I have a Bachmann paper catalog that has it on the same page as DCC on board locos also. It is the 2010 catalog.
All I know is your loco is not DCC, is not advertised as such by Bachmann, and there is nothing you can do really except see if they will let you return it.
I found that buying online has its problems .I was looking for a G scale NW-2 I bought and paid for they took the money out of my account . and for 4 weeks I keep getting, it hasn't shipped yet ,from one of the popular trains sites . They showed the Loco was in stock . And kept giving me the run around . I finally called the manufacture and they told me the Locomotive was and had been out of production for almost 5 yrs . So I called the net site back and told them about what the manufacture said and demanded my money . It really puzzles me that such a big site on the net that advertises products they don't have in stock and buy from your local hobby shop and ship it to you . Sorry to hear of your bad luck with that site as it is a definant misprint ...
I looked at the ehobbies.com page and they sure do say that model is dcc. If you paid by credit card, call your card and dispute the charge. That usually gets action from the vender. Make copies of the ad and all e-mails.
Kevin
ACY-
Here you go again! Please read my private message.
"All I know is your loco is not DCC, is not advertised as such by Bachmann, and there is nothing you can do really except see if they will let you return it."
-- D
ACY,
Are there no laws against misleading advertising in your country? The ad at ehobbies clearly states: "Bachmann HO Scale RTR GP30 with DCC (EMD #1962) - 62301" right above a photo of the locomotive.
Even if you have no laws against misleading advertising, I believe you have something against mail fraud. Hopefully 93firebird's locomotive was delivered by USPS and not by UPS or similar.
I suspect the seller will be quite glad to make the exchange once the error in his advertising is pointed out to him. Up here I think we could expect the seller to also pay the return postage although he might need some gentle persuasion. I don't know about the US. Would you have to sue him or what?
Jim
The loco is never advertised by Bachmann themselves as being DCC equipped, the one website (that he did not purchase from) did not list it as such, but the website he did purchase from had it listed as DCC, but if you look at the pricing schedule the pricing is in line with the DC locos and not the DCC locos, which should alert you that there may have been an error. Depending on the dealer he purchased from, most reputable dealers would rectify the issue at their expense, but I am not sure what would happen if they refused and what you would have to do to get the situation corrected.
Ehobbies, offered me a 15% discount. So I am fine. And yes bachmanns paper catalog has it listed with the dcc onboard catagory.
Quote from: 93firebird on May 20, 2011, 08:50:25 AM
Ehobbies, offered me a 15% discount. So I am fine. And yes bachmanns paper catalog has it listed with the dcc onboard catagory.
Is the digital catalog different than the paper catalog?
I am glad to hear that you at least got a 15% discount.
Ok, now I am having a problem with the locomotive after installing a digitrax dh123 decoder. It ran fine without the decoder, and when I first put the decoder in it ran well, however after turning it off and letting it sit overnight it starting acting up. The loco will not operate at low speeds, and is very glitchy at higher speeds at times the loco will not start unless I tap on it. I took the decoder out and it ran fine again. So I tried to reinstall the decoder, and the same thing happened. It ran fine at first, then it sat over night, and did the same thing. The motor has the caps and a couple resistors soldered in line with the original wiring. I spliced my wires in line so I would not have to disassemble the loco entirely. The instruction for the decoder do not mention anything about caps on the motor. Should I remove them?
firebird-
Bachmann shows your model number as NOT having DCC.
-- D
Quote from: 93firebird on May 22, 2011, 07:49:32 PM
The instruction for the decoder do not mention anything about caps on the motor. Should I remove them?
Yes. Definitely. Either snip them out and throw them away, or if you hesitate to do that, then snip just one lead and bend the other lead slightly so that the cut ends cannot touch.
Bachmann uses non-silent decoders so that they can have those capacitors in place. That allows them to sell their locomotives in countries that require them. In North America, they are not required so you can remove them. And if you use a silent decoder, you should remove them to avoid running problems.
Jim