I thought it would be nice to see what everyone thinks will be made for next year's Thomas line.
Do be sensible - 3 locos max if you have a twin set predicted, and just a few items of stock - don't go listing everything that appears in the series because it won't happen in one year!
Do give a reason also for why you think.
For me:
Engines:
Duck: Duck has been in demand for a long time now, and what with engines 1-7, 9+10 and diesel available, it only seems the right move to make to release engine 8, which is garruntead to sell well.
Arry + Bert: With the model for Diesel now out, these two diesels have a very good chance of being made - a simple repaint and two new faces, and they have two more characters to market. With these two Diesels appearing more in the series these days, they will certainly sell well, and will complete a "Devious" team for many fans to go along with their Diesel model, terrorising the other engines. ;D
Rolling Stock:
Red Coaches: Again, another model that has been in demand for a long time, I can see these being added to the range to bring more passenger stock out. These coaches have, again, appeared often in the series, can be coupled to any engine and look right, and have a market ready for them.
Buildings:
Buildings are a tad trickier to predict, I shall post mine soon when I have thought more thoroughly about it.
Large Scale:
Emily (The coaches are out, it's only right she is next.)
Brake van - we have the trucks, now we need a brake van for the end.
So, these are my predictions, what are yours?
For me I would love to see
Engines: Duck, Oliver
Rolling Stock: Red Branchline Coaches, Toad (IF Oliver is made)
Buildings: Not sure
LS: Emily or Toby, Breakvan
Therailwayinspector, I pretty much agree with that. Bachmann Duck, Arry and Bert really seems to be the most likely outcome in my book.
Considering all the recent surprises though, I wouldn't put it beyond Bachmann to make BoCo out of nowhere.. which I would rather over Arry, Bert, and Oliver! :P
i think these things are what ill predict(this is for more then just one year).
2012
HO:
Engines:
Duck
Oliver
and Arry and Bert.
Rolling stock:
Toad
and the Red Branchline Coaches.
Buildings:
Henry's Tunnel
and that bridge that Thomas goes under in the origanal begining.
Large scale:
Engines:
Emily, Toby or Mavis.
Rolling stock: Brake van and Express coach.
well, thats 2012 taken care of. i will post more some time for different years.
HO Scale Locomotives:
1. Duck
2. Arry and Bert
HO Scale Rolling Stock:
1. Red Coaches
2. CGI Milk Tanker
3. CGI Fuel Tanker
4. CGI Mail Car
HO Scale Buildings:
1. Toby's Shed
2. Sodor Steamworks
3. Sodor Dieselworks
4. Maithwaite Station
Large Scale:
1. Emily
2. Brake Van
This is what I see coming:
HO:
Engines:
-Duck
-Arry and Bert (It seems twins are the in thing right now :P)
Rolling Stock:
-CGI updated trucks, wagons, etc. (We all know it is going to happen, so there is no use in complaining)
Buildings:
-Tidmouth Station (Or another station on Sodor. We have Knapford jow, and you cannot have just one station on a layout)
Figures:
-Lady Hatt
-Dowager Hatt (I do not really see her in 2012, but maybe in 2013 or so)
Large Scale
Engines:
-Emily (The coaches are kind of a give away)
-Edward (If not 2012, 2013 or so)
-Toby (Similar to Edward)
Rolling Stock:
-A truck or two
Henrietta (If Toby is introduced, he needs his loyal coach)
-Brakevan (It does make sense)
In the future (Say 2014-2016) I think I see Gordon and Henry on their way, but I would not be surprised if one of them is introduced in 2012 and 2013, Bachmann has been rather sneaky lately ;)
Ok, heres 2013.
2013:
HO:
Engines:
Oliver( if not made in 2012),
Possibly Hiro
and Possibly Victor.
Rolling stock:
Toad( if not made in 2012),
Troblesome Truck No.4
and S.C Ruffy rebuilt.
Buildings:
Toby's shed,
The station Thomas stops at in the original beggining
and The original Windmill.
Sets:
A twins at work set which includes Bill, Ben, 5 trucks filled with stone, a controller and that stuff needed and a oval of track.
Large scale:
Engines:
Toby, Edward or Mavis.
Rolling stock:
Red Branchline Coaches.
Well, another year taken care of. more coming soon!
Here's what I think's to come. In no particular order, and at any given time..:
HO: Engines
- Arry and Bert (They're just Diesel without the ladders, different faces/colors)
- Duck (because he's popular and would fill the gap between 7 & 9)
- Somebody else... Rosie or Molly perhaps (prominent background characters)
HO: Stock
- The Works Coach
- Toad (simply because he's a brakevan with a face..)
- Two more 'Troublesome Trucks'
- The China Clay wagons, or perhaps the red wagons used in 'Henry's Forest'.
- The Red Branchline Coaches, or perhaps a rerelease of the Red express coaches?
HO: Off-rail Vehicles:
- TFC's Car (we have TFC, his car might sell to those who really want it)
- Trevor (although small parts may be an issue..)
HO: Buildings/ Accessories:
- Another Sodor-y station, with one platform. Like Ffarquar, Wellsworth, or Dryaw.
- Signals. In a pack.
Large Scale: Engines (I don't say Emily, because despite having her own coaches, she is large and most likely wouldn't preform well, like her HO counterpart. Diesel and Toby seem much more likely, as they are shorter characters and are recognized more by younger fans.
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Large Scale: Rolling Stock
- A vent van, with opening doors
- A previously unreleased tanker, or a new troublesome truck
.....
and I think that is about it.
HO:
Duck
Oliver
Stepeny
Murdoch (maybe)
Stanley (maybe)
Rolling Stock:
Toad
Red Coaches
Troublesome Truck #4
Large Scale:
Maybe Toby
I'm not sure about these
I agree with some but not sure about others
Okay, here's 2014.
HO:
Engines:
Hiro( if not made in 2013),
Victor( if not made in 2013),
Stanley,
and Charlie.
Rolling stock:
Troublesome Truck No.5,
Candy Cane Tanker,
Christmas Wagon with Tree
and Christmas Coach.
Accessories:
Green Snow Plough for Percy,
Black Snow Plough for Donald( Donald Snow Plough style),
Black Snow Plough for Douglas( Douglas Snow Plough style) and
Silver Snow Plough for Gordon, James, Edward and Henry.
Sets:
Engines hard at work which includes, Thomas, Annie, Clarabel, Percy, some Trucks, James, Red Express Coaches( yes i know they've been discontinued, but i still predict them to be in this set!), Henry, some Log flatbeds, Gordon, Three Express Coaches, Edward, some Cattle Wagons, HEAPS of Track( to make some Tracks for them to go on( i dont have a plan for how they should go( please make one someone)))and that stuff needed.
Large Scale:
Engines:
Toby or Mavis.
Rolling Stock:
Troublesome TRuck No.3
Well, glad thats done and over with. THAT WAS SO LONG TO MAKE!
I would like to see:
Engines
Duck
Oliver
Murdoch
Arthur (he is an 2-6-2 3MT tank engine- the same engine the Bachmann-Branchline has ;))
Rolling stock
Toad (if Oliver comes)
The Spiteful Brakevan
some more Troublesome Trucks
the Red Branchline Coaches
a rerelease of the Red Express Coaches
Off-rail vehicles
Trevor
Sir Topham Hatt's Car
LS
Emily
One of the big engines like Henry or Gordon
Red Express Coaches for James
Brake Van
P.S.: Does anyone know the Faller Car-System? The make Faller made a System where cars can drive on their own with an accumulator on roads. I want to use this system in my layout which is far away in the future. If anyone has interest in this here is a link to the home-page of Faller:http://faller.de/App/WebObjects/XSeMIPS.woa/cms/page/pid.14.17.109/ecm.p/Car-System.html
Quote from: Super Twins190 on August 10, 2011, 02:52:35 AM
Okay, here's 2014.
All very well, can we stick to 2012 on the 2012 thread though? We'll get to 2013, 14 etc ;) Hope I'm not sounding rude.
Some interesting predictions coming to light.
My predictions for buildings is:
Maithwhaite Station - a regular appearer in the series, and will be nice and small - a large building like the Steamworks would be expensive and most likely not sell too well in the end. So I can see this small station being introduced.
Non-Rail Characters:
Trevor - Trevor has been in huge demand on the forums for a start, and would be a much appreciated addition to the range after Terence last year.
Dowager Hatt - Dowager has been appearing more and more in recent years, so it wouldn't surprise me to see her made into a figure ahead of Lady Hatt.
Ok therailwayinspector. Sorry! Just wanted to say futher predictions! So yeah.... sorry!
Nah tis ok ;D
As said, there are are some interesting predictions.
What out of that so do you think will be the most likely product released next year? For me, it's definately Duck.
Yes, Duck seems to be the most logical choice, 1) Because he's a popular classic character, and 2) because he'd fill in the 7 and 9 gap. 'Arry and Bert also sounds like a good prediction, since Bachmann's been favoring the sets of twins, and because they already have the tooling from Diesel. As for characters like Hiro, Stanley, and others introduced season 8 onwards, I doubt they will be made for a long time, since Bachmann seems to be sticking to the well-known classic characters (a.k.a. Seasons 1-7).
I have no doubt that Duck is coming to Bachmann next year. I don't think anyone else should worry either.
For rolling stock, I'm putting my money on the Breakdown Train, a new van, 4 plank wagon (Edward Strikes Out) and or the red coaches.
For buildings, I'm betting on the Signal Gantry (Bluffs Cove Junction).
Sparks I hope your right.
I'd love to see Duck, Oliver, and Toad.
However Duck would be fine.
I also wouldn't mind seeing Rosie and Duck.
And sorry therailwayinspector I would love to see these engines come out over the course of the next few years.
1. Duck
2. Oliver
3. Rosie
4. Stepney
5. Arry and Bert
(others) Stanley, BoCo, Daisy, Harvey, Hank, and Hiro
But like I said for 2012...DUCK!..posibly Oliver or Rosie
For 2012, I'd love to see...
HO SCALE
-Duck: As Sparks said, Duck is a shoe-in for next year. Being he'll fill the number gap and he's in very high demand, he's most likely to be announced.
-'Arry and Bert: Being Diesel will be released this year, a simple repaint and new faces will do :)
-Rocky: He's been making appearances quite often, so I imagine him being released. Yes, he may consist of several flatbeds, but the breakdown train isn't even seen anymore, so I would only imagine Rocky would be released over the breakdown train.
-Red Coaches: They've been in every season since season 2, AND Bachmann only has six pieces of passenger rolling stock.
-Plant Vans: They've been seen in season 3 and the new CGI series. (They're the same bogey cars used in Henry's Forest. Trackmaster calls them Plant Vans, so I'm guessing those are the names for these cars.)
-Maithwaite Station: Seen since season 5, and a very popular station in the CGI series.
-Lady Hatt: Common in the newer series, along with Dowager Hatt.
-Trevor: He's a very popular character, and he's not available from too many companies anymore. There aren't any HO scale or close to HO scale models of him made.
-Butch: Just a possibility, as he was given a real role in season 15.
LARGE SCALE
-Emily: Her coaches are released, so it would be foolish not to make her.
-Toby: Makes sense. He's small, and could easily maneuver the tight curves Bachmann produces.
-Edward: Same as Toby.
-Henrietta: If Toby is announced, he deserves his coach.
-Ventilated Van: There aren't any vans, so we might as well have one!
-Brake Van: We need something to end the train :P
-Cattle Van: Just have a feeling :)
This is kind of much for one year, but I just feel these have a chance to be released in the near future :)
For Large scale I see that everyone is saying the next engine will be Emily. It would make sense as they have made the coaches but as I am a G scaler here in the UK, reading Garden Railroad magazine. It says Bachmann have brought out the Emily coaches to got with there new L&B LYN loco. They wanted some British stock to run with there loco and they realised these coaches, British freelance, under the Thomas range doubling up for two purposes, Who would blame them? I think if bachmann haven't planned to make Emily in Large scale it is a) stupid and b) by bringing out these coaches forcing them to do the loco anyway.
How every I disagree that she will be the next loco to join Thomas, Percy and James as I have been speaking to my dealer PLUS the UK rep and they have both told me that the next engine in the Large scale Thomas range will be Henry.
Box vans and brake vans are something that are needed and I hope that they are in the pipe work. Some larger 2 axle stock would be nice to see providing it is as reliable as the current stock.
Something I would like to see is Toby, I know some many people that would buy 2, One for the grandchildren and one for them to kit bash. There is defo a market there for them!
Watch this space..............
They might be getting Henry and Emily confused because they're both big green engines.
I see how you could confuse Henry and Emily, but the major difference is one is a male and the other is female. If Henry is on the way, I cannot wait to see what he looks like. I'll take classic any day over some of the rubbish we see now :P
My Prediction
HO:
Engines
Duck
Oliver
Toad
Rolling Stock
Red Branchline Coaches
China Clay Wagons (uncovered)
Mis.
Random Freight Car Loads (like the coal wagon w/t load)
Large Scale
Toby
Emily
Edward
Henrietta
Toad is Rolling Stock...not to criticize..
Quote from: JJ96 on August 15, 2011, 07:25:04 PM
Toad is Rolling Stock...not to criticize..
thanks i forgot
For HO here is my predictions...
ENGINES:
1)Duck for sure
2)Oliver
3)Stepney
4)possibly Flying Scotsman if his model for the TV series been finished (All Bachmann would have to do is repaint Gordon to LNER Apple Green with alternating White-Black-White stripes like the original engine then make new tenders using the chassis for Spencer's Tender.)
5)The City of Truro
COACHES:
1)The Red Branchline Coaches
2)The Old Branchline Coaches (the Green and Off White coaches seen only in Season 1)
3)The Tan Branchline Coaches (the ones that looked like Annie and Clarabel but without faces. All that is needed is to modify the Annie/Clarabel roofs to work with the body from Emily's Coach then attached to the chassis for Annie/Clarabel)
4)Season 1 Style Express Coaches
OTHER ROLLING STOCK:
1)the Breakdown Train
2)Brown CCT vans (Identical to the Mail Van)
3)Brown 12 Ton Vans.
I know I have listed repeats, but, I have added a few that may have been left out.
I'd like to see them create any of the following: The Diesel/Class 40, D199/Spamcan, Neville, Den, Dart, Paxton, Sidney, Derek, Duck, Rosie BoCo, and maybe Wilbert the Forest Engine.
I think it would be great bringing some Railway Series only engines into the Bachmann stock. That would be wonderful! ;D
If Henry is made in large scale (and hey, Bachmann has been making a 4-6-0 in large scale since what? 1988?), that would be interesting. Looking at the HO scale version, I can see how they'd make it work with the 4' diameter curves. It'll be tight, but I think they could make it happen.
Toby would make a good addition, too.
Train Set Ideas
The Quarry Twins Engines Set
Bill, Ben, 6 trucks and 1 or 2 brakevans with an oval track set.
The Scottish Twin Engines Set
Donald, Douglas, a random ammount of trucks, vans and tankers with 1 or 2 brakevans with larger oval set.
These are highly unlikely to be made because the engines themselves would cost a lot, but why not have release sales like for example: Have them 10%-20% off for the first week? ???
Quote from: Mark Oles on August 17, 2011, 10:26:54 AM
If Henry is made in large scale (and hey, Bachmann has been making a 4-6-0 in large scale since what? 1988?), that would be interesting. Looking at the HO scale version, I can see how they'd make it work with the 4' diameter curves. It'll be tight, but I think they could make it happen.
Toby would make a good addition, too.
I'm sure Henry could be done by perhaps having a driving wheel flangeless. Yes it would be tight, but it's not impossible.
Toby would be a great addition, although i'd like to see if he could be converted to the more prototypical G64 standards like the rest of the large scale rolling stock. It would convince me to get one in any case, simply for the fact it's a tram engine and unlike T/P/J, can be modified to look somewhat prototypical.
Jack
Toby would be a very cool model, along with Henry and Gordon.
Y'know something? I bet there's a very high chance that Duck might be announced next year since most people I see here are asking for him.
Maybe 'Arry and Bert, too. :D
My predictions are
Engines: Duck, Oliver.
Rolling Stock: Toad, Red Branchline coaches: Compisite and Brake.
Off road characters: Trevor
My most likely choices. ;)
Locomotives:
- I have no doubt Duck is going to be in the 2011 line up.
- I can see Arry and Bert being next, but at the same time I can see Bachmann giving us a break from the excess of twins, so I see other possibilities with Duck coming:
- Stanley or Rosie to be a contrasting CGI character from Duck.
Rolling stock:
- Tanker revisions
Considering what we got recently, I don't have much expectations for 2012 rolling stock.
Buildings:
Signal Gantry (Season 8+, cited as Bluffs Cove Junction on the TTTE Wikia)
No idea where the Wishlist thread is, but personally I'd rather see:
Locomotives:
- Duck and Stanley.
- BoCo. Call me crazy but I wouldn't be surprised if Bachmann announced him!
- Den and Dart. I saw Day of the Diesels, really wasn't expecting them to be my favorite part of the movie. Unfortunately they haven't been around long enough.
Rolling stock:
- 4 Plank Wagon (Edward Strikes Out, Percys Big Mistake)
- Old Van (A Close Shave notably)
- Red Coaches
- Breakdown Train
- Brake Van update
Quote from: Sparks on August 27, 2011, 04:24:12 PM
Locomotives:
- I have no doubt Duck is going to be in the 2011 line up.
- I can see Arry and Bert being next, but at the same time I can see Bachmann giving us a break from the excess of twins, so I see other possibilities with Duck coming:
- Stanley or Rosie to be a contrasting CGI character from Duck.
Rolling stock:
- Tanker revisions
Considering what we got recently, I don't have much expectations for 2012 rolling stock.
Buildings:
Signal Gantry (Season 8+, cited as Bluffs Cove Junction on the TTTE Wikia)
No idea where the Wishlist thread is, but personally I'd rather see:
Locomotives:
- Duck and Stanley.
- BoCo. Call me crazy but I wouldn't be surprised if Bachmann announced him!
- Den and Dart. I saw Day of the Diesels, really wasn't expecting them to be my favorite part of the movie. Unfortunately they haven't been around long enough.
Rolling stock:
- 4 Plank Wagon (Edward Strikes Out, Percys Big Mistake)
- Old Van (A Close Shave notably)
- Red Coaches
- Breakdown Train
- Brake Van update
I wish! * sigh*
Quote from: Sparks on August 27, 2011, 04:24:12 PM
Locomotives:
- I have no doubt Duck is going to be in the 2011 line up.
- I can see Arry and Bert being next, but at the same time I can see Bachmann giving us a break from the excess of twins, so I see other possibilities with Duck coming:
- Stanley or Rosie to be a contrasting CGI character from Duck.
Rolling stock:
- Tanker revisions
Considering what we got recently, I don't have much expectations for 2012 rolling stock.
Buildings:
Signal Gantry (Season 8+, cited as Bluffs Cove Junction on the TTTE Wikia)
No idea where the Wishlist thread is, but personally I'd rather see:
Locomotives:
- Duck and Stanley.
- BoCo. Call me crazy but I wouldn't be surprised if Bachmann announced him!
- Den and Dart. I saw Day of the Diesels, really wasn't expecting them to be my favorite part of the movie. Unfortunately they haven't been around long enough.
Rolling stock:
- 4 Plank Wagon (Edward Strikes Out, Percys Big Mistake)
- Old Van (A Close Shave notably)
- Red Coaches
- Breakdown Train
- Brake Van update
HO: Duck: Hopefully Sparks you are right besides he's been in demand along time! And us older fans want him..and the older fans buy the models wheter its for kids or for ourselves.
Arry and Bert: I really wouldn't mind them besides they need more diesels we have 11 Steamies and 3 Diesels plus they are easy builds.
BoCo: Sparks you've been mentioning him lately and can't help but agree that if they are gunna make a random one BoCo would be great.
Oliver: It seems we've all been underestimating this engines chance...I mean if they skipped 8 to go to 9 and 10, what's stopping them from skipping again and going straight to 11?
Rosie: Popular girl character, MUCH more liked then Emily, an uprising character who would add a great variety to the line up.
Rolling stock: Mostly agreed minus the Wagon.
LS: Toby, Emily, Edward...or if the rumor is true Henry.
Rolling Stock: Red Branchline Coaches, Break Van, Cattle Car, possibly a flat bed???
Although I'd love to see this over the next 3 years: HO: All above and Hiro and Stepney LS: All above and Gordon....BUT ITS MOST LIKELY IMPOSSIBLE!
Reckon we may see some of it, not all, but some :)
Quote from: Jamesis5 on August 27, 2011, 08:16:06 PM
Reckon we my see some of it, not all, but some :)
Probabbly.
HO:
Engines: Duck, Arry and Bert
Rolling Stock: Hector
Buildings: Welsworth
G scale:
Emily
Breakvan
Quote from: ThomasFan247 on August 11, 2011, 06:28:48 PM
For 2012, I'd love to see...
HO SCALE
-Duck: As Sparks said, Duck is a shoe-in for next year. Being he'll fill the number gap and he's in very high demand, he's most likely to be announced.
-'Arry and Bert: Being Diesel will be released this year, a simple repaint and new faces will do :)
-Rocky: He's been making appearances quite often, so I imagine him being released. Yes, he may consist of several flatbeds, but the breakdown train isn't even seen anymore, so I would only imagine Rocky would be released over the breakdown train.
-Red Coaches: They've been in every season since season 2, AND Bachmann only has six pieces of passenger rolling stock.
-Plant Vans: They've been seen in season 3 and the new CGI series. (They're the same bogey cars used in Henry's Forest. Trackmaster calls them Plant Vans, so I'm guessing those are the names for these cars.)
-Maithwaite Station: Seen since season 5, and a very popular station in the CGI series.
-Lady Hatt: Common in the newer series, along with Dowager Hatt.
-Trevor: He's a very popular character, and he's not available from too many companies anymore. There aren't any HO scale or close to HO scale models of him made.
-Butch: Just a possibility, as he was given a real role in season 15.
LARGE SCALE
-Emily: Her coaches are released, so it would be foolish not to make her.
-Toby: Makes sense. He's small, and could easily maneuver the tight curves Bachmann produces.
-Edward: Same as Toby.
-Henrietta: If Toby is announced, he deserves his coach.
-Ventilated Van: There aren't any vans, so we might as well have one!
-Brake Van: We need something to end the train :P
-Cattle Van: Just have a feeling :)
This is kind of much for one year, but I just feel these have a chance to be released in the near future :)
There is one Trevor almost HO scale. ERTL. It's not made anymore but can be easily be found on eBay or Amazon or something.
Hmm... interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_420850&src_vid=VCwrT2T1rzk&v=Luf3dVGV-eg&feature=iv
One of the comments by the maker of this video says that Henry may be the next engine for LS. He may just be saying that, But I reckon he may have heard something through the grapevine...
We shall have to wait and see... But if Henry IS next for Large Scale, that'd be quite impressive
And expensive. :P ::)
I read on a Large Scale forum that Gordon is next. There is no way of knowing until Bachmann tells us :)
Quote from: Jamesis5 on September 09, 2011, 04:34:38 PM
I read on a Large Scale forum that Gordon is next. There is no way of knowing until Bachmann tells us :)
You're right about that.
Well probably one will be made at a time.
We all know how high Ducks demand is so...
Locomotives:
-Arry & Bert
-Stanley
-Rosie
-Hiro
-Dart & Den
Rolling stock:
-Small china clay truck(From Percy's predicament)
-China clay wagon(From Pop goes the diesel)
-Old van(From A close shave)
-Bolster wagon(From Henry's forest)
-8 ton wagon(From series 3)
-Break down train
-Sodor works unit coach
-Rocky
-More troublesome trucks
Off rail:
-Trevor
-Butch
-Brendam crane(Big Mickey)
-Elizabeth
Humans:
-Lady hatt
-Dowager hatt
-Alicia botti
-Jem cole
-Bridget hatt
-Stephen hatt
Sets:
-Edward with the cattle wagons
-Henry with the flat wagons with forest logs(Flat wagons with forest logs are exclusive)
-Percy's mail run
Assortments:
-Thomas,Annie & Clarabel
-Percy, 2 Mail vans,Brake van(Re-desinged)
Multi packs
-4 pack:Harvey,Oliver,George,Troublesome truck #3(George & Harvey are exclusive)
-4 pack:Sidney,Norman,Paxton,Salty(All minus salty are exclusive)
-2 pack:Donald,Douglas
-2 pack:Bill,Ben,
-3 pack:Thomas,Percy,James(Re-desinged)
-3 pack:Diesel 10,Dart,Den(Diesel 10 is exclusive)
Bachmann isn't Learning Curve. It'd take them over 3 years to dish out that many new products, over half of which I doubt Bachmann would ever do.
But learning curve & fisher price are already getting the lead.That's why I wanted bachmann to come into the spotlight.I for one am sick of seeing just Wooden railway,Take-n-play & Trackmaster where ever I go.
Yeah, I'm sick of it! >:(
They're in the lead because their products take less time to develop than Bachmanns. A lot less, and to add, they can dish out a lot more. They dominate the Thomas market because they're the main toys children play with. Bachmann model trains aren't that, the Thomas models lie within the world of the model train hobby. It's a pretty different market. It's why you don't see normal HO trains at places like Wal Mart and Target. A three pack set for a Wooden model could come around to.. $30 dollars? A multi engine pack for HO/OO could easily value to $120 or more. It's not ideal.
Quote from: ClearwtaerMK2 on September 16, 2011, 07:03:34 PM
But learning curve & fisher price are already getting the lead.That's why I wanted bachmann to come into the spotlight.I for one am sick of seeing just Wooden railway,Take-n-play & Trackmaster where ever I go.
That is silly, Thomas Bachmann models will not be stocked everywhere as they are for older kids. Plus Bachmann would never be able to make all that and most of it I doubt they will ever make. Young children buy the wooden as they are not as expensive and have a wide range of engines. No one is in the lead it is all the Thomas name.
I think thomasj219 and sparks have a very good point :) .
After all I would be very suprised to see bachmann thomas engines at my local Target. :P
It is hard to compare a wooden, or should I say plastic, toy to an actual operating model train.
Bachmann is not the type of company who markets for Target and Walmart, they market for hobby shops. They are not a toy company, they are a model railroad company who just happens to make a Thomas & Friends line. Learning Curve was founded to make Thomas Wooden Railway. While Bachmann was founded to make sunglasses (I think, I know it was not model trains when they first opened) and branched into model trains in the midish 1900s.
I do not think we will see many characters past Season 8 introduced in the line. I do not think Hiro, Stanley, Dart, and Den have a chance. Rosie, maybe, as she is a female and if she is introduced it may help keep the parent activists away.
You will not see Bachmann in Target or Walmart, ever, excluding the slight possiblity of Christmas. They just do not go after that market.
It may be annoying, but it will not be happening.
Ho scale
engines: Duck,Arry,Bert
rolling stock: red branch line coaches, rocky
vehicles:Trevor
Large Scale
engines: Emily
Why doesnt bachmann ask a question on thier facebook page and let us vote on that? don't know about you but I'd love to see (all large scale) a mail car (for my Percy) and a break van and S.C.RUFFY ;D
I think I want to revise my predictions now that 2012 has actually come.
Engines:
- Duck- Honestly, I wouldn't be too surprised. Engines 1-7, 9 & 10 are all accounted for, he's popular with kids and adults alike, and, well.. I just really want to see him running.
- Arry and Bert- Modify Bachmann Diesel and give the model new faces, and viola! The Iron Twins. I wouldn't mind two more troublemakers running around the layout, as long as they don't have the soft smile that no longer 'Devious' Diesel has. Maybe the smug smile for Bert, and an open-mouthed laughing face for Arry.
If I were to include another engine, I think someone like Stanley, Rosie, or perhaps an engine like Oliver or Daisy. More likely the former two than the latter.
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Rolling Stock:
- The Red Tree/Pipe trucks from Henry's Forest/ Percy's Big Mistake. Bachmann could have fun loading up either loads or both, and I'm pretty sure kids would have fun finding loads to put in them as well. I could think of a few uses (like transporting sweets) of my own.
- The Red Coaches. Thomas gets his own coaches, Emily too(I'm not counting Gordon's express), why not get a set of lovely small coaches your engine can pull around? They've been seen with various engines in various seasons, I bet they'd be fun..
- Toad. A brakevan with a face. What more could a kid want from a Thomas model range. Of course, I would like to see Oliver released as well, just to have the pair together.. but with or without the Western companion, Toad would be cool to have on a layout. Just maybe not with the S12 CG face..
- A new van or truck. I would like to see that smooth van with the big laughing face, like in "A Close Shave". That would be awesome.
A black or dark brown guard's van would also be nice.
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Non-Rail:
- STH's car. Because not everyone can get the ERTL toy. And, to be honest, I think the TakeNPlay car is a bit too wide.
- The Horrid Lorries. Or just one Lorry. Or the faceless version. Just something to add to a layout. Again, like the Tree Truck, it would be fun to find loads for it.
Buildings/Accessories:
- That signal gantry was a very good idea, Sparks. I sort of want to see it made now..
- Another station, like Ffarquar or maybe a one platform version of Wellsworth that can be added on to.
- A level crossing.
Possible Sets:
- Percy's Seaside Trip (like the song): Featuring Percy, the two Red Coaches, a oval of track, and something to tie in a beach theme, like umbrellas and towels.
- Stanley(or Rosie)'s Special Delivery: Featuring Stanley(or Rosie, I think I'd prefer the latter), a Green Coal Truck with load, A Red Tree/Pipe car with load (more likely pipes), A vent van(or that van with the face I was talking about earlier), and a oval of track. Maybe with a siding, buffers, and a signal.
I don't think I'll be doing any Large Scale predictions. We know Emily's coming soon, and Toby, Edward, or Diesel will most likely follow if the range continues. A guard's van would be nice. In grey this time please!
Those are my thoughts.. so.. woo. Enjoy 2012!
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Cirkit
It would be nice to see a station building to go with the Knapford platforms.
Another thought: Now that they have the glass canopies for Knapford, they could do the same thing the TV show did, use them for Tidmouth station.
Rather than predictions, coz who knows what HiT will allow to be made in 2012, the following is a list of things I'd love to see any of released this year
Engines: Duck, Oliver, Daisy, Boco, Stepney, Diesel 10, Lady, Harvey, Stanley
Rolling Stock & others: Hector, James' new trucks, Rocky, old red coaches, Spiteful Break van, cloth covered trucks, log flatbed, breakdown train with works unit
Im with you 100% Fighter when it comes to Lady! :D But,I dont think HiT thinks Lady deserves to be made.If it was my decision,the engines to be made this year would be Lady,Diesel 10,and of course DUCK!!!!!
I agree with you 100%; although, I'd still like to see Oliver released at some point in the future. In my opinion, the engine(s) most likely to be released this year will either be 1) Duck, or 2) 'Arry and Bert. Of course, I think it's safe to say that the former would be preferred over the latter. ;)
Here's some ideas for road vehicles besides Trevor:
Bulgy, George, Butch, Caroline, Horrid Lorries.
Quote from: TobyTheTram16 on January 04, 2012, 08:37:38 PM
Here's some ideas for road vehicles besides Trevor:
Bulgy, George, Butch, Caroline, Horrid Lorries.
you forgot Elizabeth
Here is my predictions.
Engines:
Den and Dart- I am going out on a limb to say that I think that Den and Dart are next. They are good characters IMO. I have the Hornby Dart, and love it but I think bachmann could do a justice aswell.
Duck-Do I really need to explain?
EDIT:
Arry and Bert are pretty likely, and likely to have CGI faces;)
Rolling stock.
-Spencer's special brake coach
-Red coaches
-china clay trucks
Off-Rail:
Trevor
Butch
Kevin--even if there is no victor
Scenery:
Operating Water Mill
large scale:
Emily-she is already announced
EDIT:Toby-Most likely next.
Rolling Stock:
Troublesome truck 3
Cattle wagon
Vent van
Brake van
I agree with all of your predictions except Den and Dart. Very unlikely, I am gonna say
Engines-
Likely To Be Announced
Duck
Arry
Bert
Wish List
Stanley
Oliver
Rolling Stock
Red Coaches
China Clay Truck
Another Truck
Off-Rail
Trevor
Large Scale
Emily
Vent Van
Brake Van
Check above, I finshed my post ;)
Oh, I forgot to say also I'd like to see the "old coaches" from season 1. The green and cream ones that we saw Percy, Henry and Edward pulling at times.
PLEASE NO YELLING, But I would like to see the narrow gauge engines. Now I know, I know, we've been over this like 1,000,000+ times, but if you have hope, something good will come :).
also: engines
-Duck
-Oliver
-Boco
rolling stock:
-red branch line coaches
-old coaches (green and cream colored)
-various styles of vent vans (longer, taller, fatter, etc)
I would also like to see the lorries, bulgy, and a few of the older vehicles
Actually, Bachmann has become the leader in the On30 market. I wouldn't be surprised to see them try the HOn30 market, which would lead quite nicely into some of the NG Thomas characters. They already have the N scale mechanisms in place, it just be a matter of molding new bodies over the existing chassis.
Stop bringing up the skarloey engines!
Alright calm down, lets just agree although the Skarloey engines are unlikely they are not impossible, ok end of story.
Quote from: ClearwtaerMK2 on January 31, 2012, 04:47:50 PM
Stop bringing up the skarloey engines!
sorry - I didn't know you were in charge ???
My predictions are:
HO Scale Engines: Duck and/or 'Arry and Bert
Large Scale Engines: Emily
Although there are several other things that Bachmann could possibly make (either this year or in the future) these predictions seem to be the most logical for 2012.
My predictions would have to go for
1. Duck: He's on incredible high demand, especially with Hornby's model discontinued, and we need the gap between Toby and Donald filled.
2. Oliver: Another one on high demand. He will provide #11 and also would go good with Duck.
3. BoCo or Daisy: Both of these diesels are on high demand as well, and they have simplistic shapes, making them easy to make.
First two very possible but Daisy or BoCo very unlikely due to the very small list of appearances and though there may be demand I feel it will not be enough.
Quote from: thomasj219 on January 31, 2012, 11:15:04 PM
First two very possible but Daisy or BoCo very unlikely due to the very small list of appearances and though there may be demand I feel it will not be enough.
You never know. We did not expect Donald and Douglas, and despite appearing a little more often than the other characters I mentioned, nobody expected them at all. So if Bachmann can pull Donald and Douglas out of their pockets, then I'm sure BoCo or Daisy are just as likely.
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Quote from: thomasj219 on January 31, 2012, 11:15:04 PM
First two very possible but Daisy or BoCo very unlikely due to the very small list of appearances and though there may be demand I feel it will not be enough.
You never know. We did not expect Donald and Douglas, and despite appearing a little more often than the other characters I mentioned, nobody expected them at all. So if Bachmann can pull Donald and Douglas out of their pockets, then I'm sure BoCo or Daisy are just as likely.
It would be pretty cool. I'd just love to see them finish off characters from season 1-3 :)
Quote from: RW James on January 31, 2012, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: ClearwtaerMK2 on January 31, 2012, 04:47:50 PM
Stop bringing up the skarloey engines!
sorry - I didn't know you were in charge ???
Believe you me! If I was in charge,Let alone an employee of Bachmann,I'd tell you bachmann would never make any skarloey engines at all.
Now now, lets all get along, I didn't know my post would start so much chaos. :-[
Quote from: ClearwtaerMK2 on February 01, 2012, 03:12:06 PM
Quote from: RW James on January 31, 2012, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: ClearwtaerMK2 on January 31, 2012, 04:47:50 PM
Stop bringing up the skarloey engines!
sorry - I didn't know you were in charge ???
Believe you me! If I was in charge,Let alone an employee of Bachmann,I'd tell you bachmann would never make any skarloey engines at all.
Well you aren't and besides you do not know with complete certainty that they wouldn't so you are coming off very pompously. Just relax.
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Quote from: thomasj219 on January 31, 2012, 11:15:04 PM
First two very possible but Daisy or BoCo very unlikely due to the very small list of appearances and though there may be demand I feel it will not be enough.
You never know. We did not expect Donald and Douglas, and despite appearing a little more often than the other characters I mentioned, nobody expected them at all. So if Bachmann can pull Donald and Douglas out of their pockets, then I'm sure BoCo or Daisy are just as likely.
Donald & Douglas and Boco and Daisy are completely different cases and in no way does the twins being announced increase at all the very slim chances that BoCo and Daisy have of ever being announced.
Here are Donald and Douglas' appearances throughout the series including cameos.
Television series.
Donald & DouglasSeason 2 - Breakvan, The Deputation, Thomas Comes to Breakfast, and Thomas and the Missing Christmas Tree
Season 3 - Gordon and the Famous Visitor, Donald's Duck, Henry's Forest, Escape, Oliver Owns Up, Tender Engines, and Thomas and Percy's Christmas Adventure
Season 4 - Four Little Engines , Rusty to the Rescue , Thomas and Stepney , Train Stops Play, Bowled Out, Toad Stands By , and Thomas and the Special Letter
Season 5 - Horrid Lorry and Make Someone Happy
Season 6 - Twin Trouble, Harvey to the Rescue, A Bad Day for Harold the Helicopter, Elizabeth the Vintage Lorry , Percy and the Haunted Mine, James and the Red Balloon, and Thomas the Jet Engine
Season 7 - Percy Gets it Right , Edward's Brass Band, Bad Day at Castle Loch, Salty's Stormy Tale , Peace and Quiet , Harold and the Flying Horse , and Gordon and Spencer
Season 8 - Edward the Great (deleted scene) and You Can Do it, Toby! (mentioned)
Season 11 - Gordon and the Engineer
Season 12 - Saved You!
They have appeared in every
model season since their introduction except for (Ironically) 9 & 10.
Now here are BoCo & Daisy's appearances including cameos.
BoCoSeason 2 - The Diseasel, Wrong Road, Edward's Exploit, and Thomas and the Missing Christmas Tree
Season 3 - Buzz, Buzz, One Good Turn, Escape, and Bulgy
Season 4 - Rusty to the Rescue and Thomas and the Special Letter
Season 5 - Double Teething Troubles and Stepney Gets Lost
DaisySeason 2 - Thomas Comes to Breakfast (mentioned; unnamed), Daisy and Percy's Predicament
Season 4 - Rusty to the Rescue and Bull's Eyes
Calling All Engines! (does not speak)
Boco has not appeared with a speaking role since Season 5 and Daisy since Season 4, she does not speak in Calling All Engines. Donald and Douglas also have the added bonus of completing number 1-10 (minus 8 ) they are also much more marketable as they are reasonably well known. Boco and Daisy are no where near as known as they are.
So to conclude, as much as I would LOVE if Boco and Daisy were made, it is not likely at all, I hope I have presented clear reasons why just because the twins were announced doesn't mean these two have a chance. Now Duck on the other hand, if BACHMANN thinks logically, should have a great chance this year.
I think everyone needs to settle down with this situation in hand. This is a prediction thread for 2012, not a wishlist thread. ;)
It's fair to assume what's coming out this year, and I have a good feeling that we will be satisfied this year as we have no product delays in the way. In fact, this could be why we only got just Diesel and the windmill as new additions for HO last year. We could be in for a nice surprise, but I think the irrational expectations should be put to rest for what to expect.
As I said earlier, I have a feeling we will most likely get Duck, Arry, and Bert. I'll be surprised if any of them would be absent in the Toy Fair announcements. If we get anyone else, I have a feeling it will be an iconic character to the show such as Rosie or Stanley. I think Oliver would also be a logical choice to go along with Duck or the following a year but I'm finding him debatable at the moment. I won't however disagree that he'd be a great addition all the same.
Characters like the narrow gauge engines, BoCo, Daisy, and even the likes of Den and Dart are all great and interesting ideas if not for one thing... they just won't happen. Den and Dart were just introduced in Day of the Diesels and are nowhere near iconic, at least not right now. BoCo, Daisy, and the narrow gauge engines are pretty self-explanatory as everyone else on this board can easily cover.
I myself am more worried about rolling stock. We had gotten only Troublesome Truck #3 two years ago (which turned out disappointing) and no new rolling stock this year, apart from CGI updates. I really think it's time we got some new decent rolling stock, the red coaches in particular.
I'm pretty excited for the Toy Fair overall, can't believe we will finally see the announcements in less then two weeks!
I agree completely, product delays I feel are the reason the range is not much larger already with them out of the way I see a very successful year ahead. Your predictions I have a feeling will come true Duck, Arry, & Bert, and I also agree we need more rolling stock. The red coaches are a must, I also suggest another brake van, china clay trucks, and maybe some generic no brand tankers like those in Season 2.
We will have to wait and see, I'll post another list closer to the announcements.
Well, as everyone else has been saying, we might be pleasantly surprised with this year's announcements. And don't forget, it is the tenth anniversary of the Thomas & Friends Bachmann Range.
Very true I hope BACHMANN celebrates a bit we shall see. I have a feeling we will be surprised but not that surprised. ;)
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Quote from: RW James on January 31, 2012, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: ClearwtaerMK2 on January 31, 2012, 04:47:50 PM
Stop bringing up the skarloey engines!
sorry - I didn't know you were in charge ???
Believe you me! If I was in charge,Let alone an employee of Bachmann,I'd tell you bachmann would never make any skarloey engines at all.
Look who it is? Mr. Narrow Gauge Engine-Doubter... :(
Listen here, you got to stop making people believe in Bachmann not making the Skarloey Railway range. It could happen or it could not. The choices by Bachmann and/or HiT are 50/50 so there are chances they'll do them or not. But I do like them doing the standard gauge engines anyway. :P
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Quote from: ClearwtaerMK2 on February 01, 2012, 03:12:06 PM
Quote from: RW James on January 31, 2012, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: ClearwtaerMK2 on January 31, 2012, 04:47:50 PM
Stop bringing up the skarloey engines!
sorry - I didn't know you were in charge ???
Believe you me! If I was in charge,Let alone an employee of Bachmann,I'd tell you bachmann would never make any skarloey engines at all.
Look who it is? Mr. Narrow Gauge Engine-Doubter... :(
Listen here, you got to stop making people believe in Bachmann not making the Skarloey Railway range. It could happen or it could not. The choices by Bachmann and/or HiT are 50/50 so there are chances they'll do them or not. But I do like them doing the standard gauge engines anyway. :P
The reason why bachmann would never make any narrow gauge engines is because:
1.They are smaller than standard gauge engines.
2.Bachmann would have to make this entire range for N scale in order to have them share the same size.
3.The skarloey engines are better off made as toys so you can make your own in 009 scale.
So there!! >:(
Quote from: ClearwtaerMK2 on February 03, 2012, 04:45:42 PM
The reason why bachmann would never make any narrow gauge engines is because:
1.They are smaller than standard gauge engines.
So? What does that matter?
Quote from: ClearwtaerMK2 on February 03, 2012, 04:45:42 PM
2.Bachmann would have to make this entire range for N scale in order to have them share the same size.
Bachmann does already have a very successful N scale range. The mechanisms are there. Additionally, Bachmann owns the Graham-Farish range of British N scale models. So your point is lost there.
Quote from: ClearwtaerMK2 on February 03, 2012, 04:45:42 PM
3.The skarloey engines are better off made as toys so you can make your own in 009 scale.
True - but they are toys and lack the scale aspect of a good model. About the only thing the toys are good for is providing the face.
I am making a model of Duncan, using the face from the wooden toy and the chassis from a Bachmann N scale 0-4-0. It's a fun project, but not everyone is up for this level of model work. A ready-to-run model would not be that big of a deal for Bachmann and would be appreciated I'm sure.
Quote from: RW James on February 03, 2012, 05:11:50 PM
Quote from: ClearwtaerMK2 on February 03, 2012, 04:45:42 PM
The reason why bachmann would never make any narrow gauge engines is because:
1.They are smaller than standard gauge engines.
So? What does that matter?
Quote from: ClearwtaerMK2 on February 03, 2012, 04:45:42 PM
2.Bachmann would have to make this entire range for N scale in order to have them share the same size.
Bachmann does already have a very successful N scale range. The mechanisms are there. Additionally, Bachmann owns the Graham-Farish range of British N scale models. So your point is lost there.
Quote from: ClearwtaerMK2 on February 03, 2012, 04:45:42 PM
3.The skarloey engines are better off made as toys so you can make your own in 009 scale.
True - but they are toys and lack the scale aspect of a good model. About the only thing the toys are good for is providing the face.
I am making a model of Duncan, using the face from the wooden toy and the chassis from a Bachmann N scale 0-4-0. It's a fun project, but not everyone is up for this level of model work. A ready-to-run model would not be that big of a deal for Bachmann and would be appreciated I'm sure.
I agree with you, sir. Even if it is a very slim chance, we might see the Narrow Gauge engines pop up. And there is another thing, not only is it the Tenth Anniversary of HO Thomas & Friends, but it is also the year of Season 16, the return of the Skarloey Railway to Thomas & Friends, so that might stack the odds up a little more.
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Quote from: RW James on January 31, 2012, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: ClearwtaerMK2 on January 31, 2012, 04:47:50 PM
Stop bringing up the skarloey engines!
sorry - I didn't know you were in charge ???
Believe you me! If I was in charge,Let alone an employee of Bachmann,I'd tell you bachmann would never make any skarloey engines at all.
Look who it is? Mr. Narrow Gauge Engine-Doubter... :(
Listen here, you got to stop making people believe in Bachmann not making the Skarloey Railway range. It could happen or it could not. The choices by Bachmann and/or HiT are 50/50 so there are chances they'll do them or not. But I do like them doing the standard gauge engines anyway. :P
The reason why bachmann would never make any narrow gauge engines is because:
1.They are smaller than standard gauge engines.
2.Bachmann would have to make this entire range for N scale in order to have them share the same size.
3.The skarloey engines are better off made as toys so you can make your own in 009 scale.
So there!! >:(
You sound extremely immature, if there is money in it someday BACHMANN may do it. If they do I have no doubt they would be a successful range. The large scale range is 275 an engine and 75 for each item of rolling stock, some though it would fail because of the price but it is a very successful range despite the cost. Introducing an N Scale range would yield most likely better results as they are cheaper and smaller, so people will smaller houses could still have a Thomas setup, because in addition to the Narrow Gauge engine without a doubt they would also introduce a N Scale Thomas, Percy, etc.
Your argument has no logic, it is unlikely this year I will say that, but I will also say that BACHMANN has stated that they want to introduce Thomas in every scale, so there may soon come a day we see the narrow gauge engines.
Would Bachmann be able to produce the Skarloey engines if they don't have the license to produce N-Scale Thomas and Friends products? Technically the range would be HOn3/009, but I'm just curious. That kind of has me a bit puzzled.
Quote from: ThomasFan247 on February 03, 2012, 06:53:20 PM
Would Bachmann be able to produce the Skarloey engines if they don't have the license to produce N-Scale Thomas and Friends products? Technically the range would be HOn3/009, but I'm just curious. That kind of has me a bit puzzled.
Their On30 range uses the same mechanisms as their HO range, but it is marketed separately. I'm sure any HOn30 models would be handled the same way.
Honestly, I would love to see them produce a HOn30 range, regardless of whether they do the Thomas NG stock or not.
They would have to acquire the license yes, if they do it is inevitable that they will make an N range.
But as long as Tomix is still holding the N-Scale license, would Bachmann be able to produce a narrow gauge range?
Quote from: ThomasFan247 on February 03, 2012, 09:01:54 PM
But as long as Tomix is still holding the N-Scale license, would Bachmann be able to produce a narrow gauge range?
I'm probably ignorant about this - but how is that different than what Hornby does - right along with Bachmann?
HORNBY holds the right in Britain BACHMANN hold the rights in the US that is why they can produce simultaneously. TOMIX holds the rights in Japan only I believe so BACHMANN should be able to produce in N here, it is most likely a matter of buying the license and BACHMANN either isn't in the position financially to do that right now or has its focus on other things. But never the less I feel inevitably someday soon (Next 2-4 years) we will have an N Scale line of Thomas and the Narrow Gauge engines from BACHMANN.
Oh, I see. I thought Tomix had the license here in the US too, but how the heck should I know for how rare their Thomas models are :P
Haha exactly, that's why they are as rare as they are.
Quote from: ThomasFan247 on February 03, 2012, 10:38:12 PM
Oh, I see. I thought Tomix had the license here in the US too, but how the heck should I know for how rare their Thomas models are :P
The Tomix models were distributed under TOMY, which seems to have ceased for a long time.
Yes around 2003-2004, at the time of the HiT takeover. I bought a TOMIX Thomas Annie & Clarabel set in the US at a store just before this time.
On the subject of BACHMANN I really hope that they announce the Red coaches this year, any thoughts on the possibility. I'm surprised we don't have them already actually.
QuoteYour argument has no logic, it is unlikely this year I will say that, but I will also say that BACHMANN has stated that they want to introduce Thomas in every scale, so there may soon come a day we see the narrow gauge engines.
What do you mean "My argument has no logic?" You did not even read the whole thing & by the way I'd be frightened if bachmann ever makes the narrow gauge engines.(The keyword being:Ever)
Why do you think I didn't read it, I did and it has no logic, all you stated is that they are smaller (so what) and that people like to make their own, some people cannot so the range would be a great thing for them. BACHMANN wants to introduce Thomas in every scale eventually as i said, so the narrow gauge engines have a shot in future years. And why would you be frightened? Unfortunately you did not see all our replies when you announced your departure from the forum, as the topic was deleted, but we stated that you are being rather immature (and still are) and if you continue to act this way, saying things like "BACHMANN will never make the narrow gauge engines so there >:( " and so forth. The point to the forum is discussing things logically. If I suggest an engine someone thinks is unlikely they give their reasons why calmly, if you do that you get an interesting back and forth about the engines, if not it is just an immature shouting match. If you feel you can be a positive contribution please stay on the forum but if you cannot, you know where the delete account button is.
Not trying to be mean, just honest, looking out for the good of the forum.
Quote from: ClearwtaerMK2 on February 03, 2012, 04:45:42 PM
The reason why bachmann would never make any narrow gauge engines is because:
1.They are smaller than standard gauge engines. really? you don't say
2.Bachmann would have to make this entire range for N scale in order to have them share the same size. That's the whole point of making new products. they don't have to design a whole new track for them
3.The skarloey engines are better off made as toys so you can make your own in 009 scale. not a good reason. your opinion.
So there!! >:( o good, the water boiled. anyone for tea?
and if you did work for bachmann you would say that it would be a good idea because if you really think about it be for being mr. grumpy consider real facts
1.) extending the Thomas range to 009/N scale would bring in more profit because of the high demand from us Thomas modelers and parents will buy the engines for their kids because they "have" to have them
2.) for people who want to model the Tallyllyn railway they can just modify the Skarloey engines so they have a ready to run loco instead of playing "hunt the trucks" for a kit then a chassie that will fit the kit
3.) as thomasj219 said "bachmann did say they wanted to expand their thomas line into all scales
i remember a time when all thomas modelers got along and talked about thomas. besides why are you so negative about the subject?
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Quote from: RW James on January 31, 2012, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: ClearwtaerMK2 on January 31, 2012, 04:47:50 PM
Stop bringing up the skarloey engines!
sorry - I didn't know you were in charge ???
Believe you me! If I was in charge,Let alone an employee of Bachmann,I'd tell you bachmann would never make any skarloey engines at all.
Look who it is? Mr. Narrow Gauge Engine-Doubter... :(
Listen here, you got to stop making people believe in Bachmann not making the Skarloey Railway range. It could happen or it could not. The choices by Bachmann and/or HiT are 50/50 so there are chances they'll do them or not. But I do like them doing the standard gauge engines anyway. :P
The reason why bachmann would never make any narrow gauge engines is because:
1.They are smaller than standard gauge engines.
2.Bachmann would have to make this entire range for N scale in order to have them share the same size.
3.The skarloey engines are better off made as toys so you can make your own in 009 scale.
So there!! >:(
Not the entire range. They would start off with some basic stuff and a set or 2.
Example: 2012
Skarloey
Sir Handel
Red Coaches
Blue Coaches
Brakevan
Skarloey and 2-4 Blue Coaches and brakevan set in a circle
Sir Handel and 3 Red Coaches in an oval set.
No need to be such a total crosspatch about making people believe in no Skarloey Railway range for N/009 Scale. :P
@Anthony P2 yeah, why can't we all get along with someone grumbling about Bachmann never making any Skarloey Ralway engines?
P.S: ClearwaterMK2 being frightened if they do start on the range? Are you kidding me? Not being mean or anything... but, seriously? ???
It's funny. Even this is just a post where we can give out some ideas about what's to be released in the coming months, it has become a massive bickering match with ClearWtaerMK2. Though, I hate to be rude, but CWM2 is just being an immature nuisance. Can we just get on with bringing out our predictions? We can suggest some things until this weekend when the Toy Fair happens.
The issue with the Skarloey Railway isn't about Bachmann making them, it's about how they would make them.
I'm a member of a narrow gauge modeling forum that is host to both modelers and manufacturers, and both have been in discussions over anything done in OO9. The end conclusion is the core market for OO9 locos is far too small to make any line specific locomotive viable. The only feasible way to get a OO9 loco would be to fund the whole production yourself, and this can be very costly.
With Skarloey items, they fall into the OO9 market. In the US, anything narrow gauge seems to be made to HOn3 and HOn30 and very much US outline. Considering they are very much identifiable to just one line, it essentially lowers the potential market for the models. None of the Skarloey items are even remotely American in outline, so you've lost some sales to this market.
Bachmann, or technically it's parent firm Kader, has only done HO scale narrow gauge under it's Lilliput brand, and even then the market is easier. If you're thinking "why don't they make them then and sell in Europe too?" it's because it's a tricky market to go in to. Roco decided they would release a British outline locomotive, and quickly found they had no market to sell it to.
So if you've read that and are thinking "well surely most of them will be bought by parents for their kids?" then I'll say this. If you've got your kid a HO scale set up already, and see that these products won't work on the same track system, then you'd more than likely avoid buying them. The success of brands like Trackmaster and Wooden Railroads is compatibility. It has to be compatible for it to sell.
Therefore, you do have one good modelling scale that the Skarloey items could be made for. On30. Doing them to this size would mean they could use existing track, as well as offer themselves to an existing market Bachmann supplies and has a good reputation in. Whilst this means they would look silly to us if you mixed them alongside your HO models, I'm sure the core audience of these models wouldn't mind one bit. ;)
Jack
Now, this is a good example of an informative and logical argument. You present your points well. :)
Duck has been confirmed! ;D ;D ;D
WHAT?!? WHERE?!?
Simon's blog^^
Link please!
http://thomasmodelreview.blogspot.com/2012/02/im-great-western-and.html (http://thomasmodelreview.blogspot.com/2012/02/im-great-western-and.html)
Although it's not an official announcement, it seems to be legitimate. Couldn't someone get in trouble for revealing this sort of information ahead of schedule? :-\
YEEEEEEEESSSSS I hope thats offical. So is it just Duck, I doubt that, what are the other engines and stock I wonder.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DUCK IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 12345678910!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8! DUCK!!!!!
oi bachmann is he comeing or not ?? >:( >:(
We will find out when the announcements come.
Quote from: gwr duck on February 07, 2012, 04:15:10 PM
oi bachmann is he comeing or not ?? >:( >:(
No need to sound rude or demanding... perhaps later this month or in March, we'll see an image of him. :)
I think at this rate, we're getting what most people wanted...
1. Duck
2. Oliver (he got many votes)
3. Red Coaches
4. Toad
5. 'Arry and Bert (maybe, maybe not)
sorry 4 being rude im just so fustrated that we have 2 wate
I WANT HIM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWW ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) :'( :'(
Don't we all?
I wish the same thing too because when they release an image, it looks finished but I think the reason that they come out later is because they have to make LOTS of models for the fans to buy... Model Trains don't grow on trees, you know! ;D
My cards are on Duck being released, only seems right that the main characters should be completed before anyone else is considered, besides, he's been one of the best engines alongside Donald and Douglas!
Oliver i am also going to gamble on, since he is another classic character, who deserves to be made.