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Title: Caboose Project
Post by: jonathan on October 09, 2011, 01:03:16 PM
In anticiptation of my two EM-1s arrival, I started a new caboose project.  I have a proper B&O I-12 Wagon Top Caboose.  But I need a caboose for the second EM-1.  I started an I-5D Caboose, one of the most common B&O Cabooses (that's an opinion of course).

Anyway, it's fun to share.  Here's a few shots of my progress.  Keep in mind I need to do some serious fine sanding and cleaning.  However, I am getting close to the painting stage.  She will be numbersed C-2222. That's the I-5 at the B&O RR Museum in Baltimore.

For a little size perspective:  the brake rigging is 0.015" wire and the grabirons are bits of 0.010" wire. 

Regards,

Jonathan

Enjoy:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6881.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6880.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6879.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6878.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6877.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6876.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6875.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6874.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6873.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6872.jpg)

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(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6867.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6866.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6865.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6864.jpg)
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: Doneldon on October 09, 2011, 04:26:01 PM
jonathan-

It looks great to me. That, of course, is no surprise. You are a highly skilled modeler.

Do you ever have problems with painting plastic and brass at the same time. I'm wondering especially about priming the brass before painting. Or maybe you prime everything.
                               -- D
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: jonathan on October 09, 2011, 05:03:54 PM
Thanks, Doneldon.

I have gotten in the habit of using Floquil Primer (spray bomb) over every material I paint.  It seems to stick to everything quite well--at least, I haven't had a paint job come apart since using the primer.

In a pinch, I have used Floquil Grimy Black as a primer, too.  It seems to do a good job as well.

I don't have room, or the desire, to invest in an airbrush system, so all my finishes are spray bombs.  Small trim decorations are brush painted.

To prep the materials, I use my wife's Zout sprayed liberally over the piece, then rinse in luke warm water and allow it to air dry overnight.

That's it.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: J3a-614 on October 09, 2011, 11:13:33 PM
Looking forward to seeing it in red paint and white letters. . .
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: Santa Fe buff on October 09, 2011, 11:21:18 PM
Alright! That looks amazing.

Great work, I look forward to updates!

Cheers,
Joshua
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: jward on October 10, 2011, 08:19:36 PM
Quote from: jonathan on October 09, 2011, 01:03:16 PM
In anticiptation of my two EM-1s arrival, I started a new caboose project.  I have a proper B&O I-12 Wagon Top Caboose.  But I need a caboose for the second EM-1.  I started an I-5D Caboose, one of the most common B&O Cabooses (that's an opinion of course).


I am a little confused as to how the I5D being the most common caboose on b&o is an opinion. they either were or weren't. certainly, i am not aware of any other class of caboose on b&o which approached their numbers. even into the 1970s, they were everywhere. for those who live near pittsburgh, one still exists at the bridgeville public library.

good to see a nice model of an old friend.
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: ebtnut on October 11, 2011, 04:06:08 PM
Jonathon:  I presume that the model is from a resin-cast kit, but you didn't identify whose kit.  Though I mostly model O/On3, I do some HO stuff to use at the club I belong to up in PA, so that might be a good project.

Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: jonathan on October 11, 2011, 05:16:35 PM
ebtnut,

The kit is Pacific Mountain Scale Shops (PMSS).  The company is now defunct.  This was my one and only ebay purchase.  I got lucky. I bid modestly and won (small miracle).

These kits show up about one a month and usually go pretty high.  The kit is quite a challenge, but is as close as one can get to an actual prototype without looking at bra$$.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: jonathan on October 12, 2011, 05:00:10 AM
Update:

I used a flat black spray paint as a primer, as an experiment:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6884.jpg)

I have some leftover ideas in my head, coming from old MR videos, that talk about a "theater" effect, whereby one paints everything black and only paints what you want the audience to see.
It's a mess up there... ;)

I'm trying to stick with one thin coat of red paint, to keep the details as sharp as possible.  Here she is with wet paint--literally one-minute-old wet paint:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6889.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6888.jpg)


(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6886.jpg)

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: Jerrys HO on October 12, 2011, 05:38:25 AM
Nice work! Do you ever sleep.
Jerry
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: jonathan on October 12, 2011, 06:24:12 AM
 ;D  I do my best work just before I leave for my regular job.  ;D

It only takes a couple of minutes to paint.  It took longer to upload the photos.

Thanks, Jerry.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: Doneldon on October 12, 2011, 01:30:13 PM
jonathan-

How about a job? Do you ever work? I'm retired and I couldn't find the
time you seem to have to do your terrific modeling to save my soul. I
am soooo jealous!
                                                                        -- D
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: jonathan on October 13, 2011, 05:11:05 AM

RAM,

Your link is not working.  I tried everything I know, which isn't much.

Today's progress:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6890.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6891.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSCN6892.jpg)

Got up a little extra early this morning.  I'll do that when I get close to the end of an exciting project.

Here's the prototype:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/C2222a.jpg)

I took this photo so no copyright infringements to worry about.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: J3a-614 on October 13, 2011, 06:46:34 AM
She's going to look good bringing up a train behind that Yellowstone. . .
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: jerryl on October 13, 2011, 07:25:09 PM
May want to replace the horizontal pipe on top of the stack with thinwall tubing, much more realistic....otherwise, great Job!
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: jonathan on October 14, 2011, 09:46:03 AM
DOH!  Wish I would have thought of that BEFORE I painted and attached the smokejack.  Oh well, a good tip for next time.

Thanks.  :)

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: jonathan on October 14, 2011, 08:01:45 PM
Getting close; about 80% done.  Did some more painting and added weight:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6897.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6896.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6895.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6894.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6893.jpg)

OK, still needs window glazing, lift chains, air hoses, and ladder extensions. Should be done by Tuesday I think.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: Jerrys HO on October 14, 2011, 09:18:20 PM
jonathan you truly are an artist with the paint job. The detail work is awesome! The stack pipe does not look off comparing it to the prototype.
What did you use for the weight,looks like a briteboy glued to the top.
Jerry
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: Doneldon on October 14, 2011, 11:50:24 PM
jonathan-

Another really impressive paint and decal job. I do wonder if having that weight up high (it looks like it's right below the cupola) is such a good idea.

Quote from: jerryl on October 13, 2011, 07:25:09 PM
May want to replace the horizontal pipe on top of the stack with thinwall tubing, much more realistic....otherwise, great Job!

How brave and steady of hand are you? Drill out the smoke jack in situ and repaint it with a brush.
                                                                                                                                                     -- D
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: jonathan on October 15, 2011, 06:24:26 AM
Thanks, Gents.

The weight is actually attached to the floor with industrial epoxy.  Photo must be an optical illusion. I pulled a fuel tank off one of my grandfather's old locos (60s or 70s), and the tank was full of these heavy plates.  I have four left to weight other cars as needed.

The bar above the weight is an aluminum tube, used to spread out the walls about 1mm.  The walls were just a bit warped.  It made a good handle while detailing the body.

Regards,

Jonathan

Closer, still:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6901.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6900.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6899.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6898.jpg)
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: jonathan on October 16, 2011, 07:02:08 AM
Even Closer:

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6905.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6908.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6910.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6911.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6914.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6915.jpg)
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: jonathan on October 17, 2011, 04:30:45 AM
OK, I think we're ready to call it done.

I installed Intermountain wheels.  They're a little loose for my taste, but nothing else would roll freely. 

Our Local Hobbytown is closing up forever, so I can't get any Kadee couplers until the next train show.  The McHenry's will suffice.

The lenses in the marker lamps are drops of epoxy, applied over red and green enamel. 

The lift bar chains are blackened brass, 40 links to the inch.  I used a needle and thread to attach them. 

There are a few spots that turned out a little rough.  Well... looks rough with the camera in close.  Considering how tiny an HO Caboose can be...

Enjoy.  Regards, J

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6916.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6917.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6918.jpg)

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(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6923.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6924.jpg)

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Caboose%20Article/DSCN6926.jpg)
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: J3a-614 on October 17, 2011, 07:27:27 AM
Jon's done his part, now the Bachmann needs to get him those 7600s. . .

:D
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: NMWTRR on October 17, 2011, 08:02:34 AM
As always Jon's projects are inspiration.

Fantastic looking caboose to bring up the rear of any train!
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: ebtnut on October 19, 2011, 02:16:59 PM
Yes, excellent work here.  Jonathon, you gonna bring that to show off at Timonium next weekend?

Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: jonathan on October 19, 2011, 05:44:15 PM
Thanks for the kind words, guys.

Yes, I have already packed it in my train box for Timonium.  My club is the PWMRC.  We have a smallish modular layout compared to most of the other club layouts. 

You'll know my module by the brass PFM 0-8-0 and Varney Docksider parked in front of an engine house.

I tend to really geek out and wear and B&O engineer hat.  I wonder if people stare?

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: Johnson Bar Jeff on October 19, 2011, 06:53:58 PM
Quote from: ebtnut on October 19, 2011, 02:16:59 PM
Yes, excellent work here.  Jonathon, you gonna bring that to show off at Timonium next weekend?

Absolutely!

Jonathan, you should be doing project articles for the hobby magazines. Your projects are as well done as anything I've ever seen in Model Railroader, for example.
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: jonathan on October 20, 2011, 06:43:58 AM
Thanks, JBJ.  If only it were true.  Maybe I take better pics than I thought.  I never considered showing anything to the slick mags.  Those guys use airbrushes and all the latest tools and chemicals to make museum quality stuff.  I use razor blades, pliers and spray bombs. ;D

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: Woody Elmore on October 20, 2011, 07:41:33 PM
Jon - I second what JBJ has said. Mr and RMC need articles where the builder uses simple tools. Not everyone has a compressor and air brush. Your modeling is as good as anything I've seen in the model press. You won't know unless you try - you can get guidelines for publishing articles from the publishers. Maybe you can get others interested in "beano" modelling!
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: richg on October 20, 2011, 08:59:46 PM
MRH has been looking for articles. Maybe presented as a way to get acceptable results like this with the tools you use. Your photos seem quite good. I have posted here about this free eZine before.

http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/article_submit

http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/

To those who are not aware, the free magazine can be downloaded and saved to your PC. Some articles come with videos.
I have all the magazines from day one which is about three years ago.

Good luck.

Rich
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: Doneldon on October 25, 2011, 09:03:00 PM
jonathan-

Check out page 12 in Great Model Railroads 2012.

                                         -- D
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: jonathan on October 26, 2011, 07:04:17 AM
Doneldon,

I no longer subscribe to MR.  I will look for this issue in my usual haunts.  My curiosity is peaked.  Thanks.

Jonathan
Title: Re: Caboose Project
Post by: jonathan on October 26, 2011, 09:54:34 AM
Just happened across the issue.  Nice article.  That caboose sure looked familiar. ;D

Regards,

Jonathan