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Title: New Bachmann Track
Post by: jpipkin on October 26, 2011, 01:43:32 PM
Does anyone know anything about the Model Railroader announcement of what sounds like brass track from Bachmann?

Jim Pipkin
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: Bucksco on October 26, 2011, 04:13:25 PM
Yes, Bachmann will be producing Large Scale Brass track.
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: tom p on October 26, 2011, 04:46:02 PM
HURRAY!!!!!
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: armorsmith on October 26, 2011, 05:50:45 PM
More directly, when will the information regarding code, length of straights, diameters of curves and compatibility with other mfgrs be available?

Thanks,

Bob C.
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: Bucksco on October 26, 2011, 09:15:23 PM
Initial releases include:

One-foot straight, 12 pack
Three-foot straight, 12 pack
Four-foot diameter curve, 12 pack
Five-foot diameter curve, 12 pack
Eight-foot diameter curve, 16 pack

Geometry is based on existing brands  (LGB, Aristo, USA)
Tie spacing is based on U.S. prototype
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: NarrowMinded on October 26, 2011, 09:26:09 PM
Hmmm, this is surprising News, not long ago I read a post asking why Bachmann didn't produce and or supply brass track and the answer was it would not be practical due to it being produced already, or something like that.

Nice surprise though I hope it is better then some(un-named) and more affordable.

NM-Jeff
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: Bucksco on October 26, 2011, 11:06:15 PM
Quote from: NarrowMinded on October 26, 2011, 09:26:09 PM
Hmmm, this is surprising News, not long ago I read a post asking why Bachmann didn't produce and or supply brass track and the answer was it would not be practical due to it being produced already, or something like that.

Nice surprise though I hope it is better then some(un-named) and more affordable.

NM-Jeff

Life is change.....
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: NarrowMinded on October 27, 2011, 02:11:23 AM
And For the Better is always good  ;D

NM-Jeff
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: Wade Colyer on October 29, 2011, 01:52:11 PM
Hi :

It sound like it might be the same as PIKO track. I see PIKO is going to have R3 curved switches.

http://www.piko-america.com/PIKO_G_2011_New_Items_Flyer.pdf

Wade
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: Bucksco on October 29, 2011, 03:07:32 PM
It is NOT the same as PIKO.
PIKO has a geometry all it's own.
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: Wade Colyer on October 29, 2011, 11:06:18 PM
Hi:

Thanks for that information. Information on some track brands is hard to find.

Wade
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: NarrowMinded on October 30, 2011, 02:25:18 AM
This is what I love about this forum,  I bought some piko track just before Christmas last year, I had a little trouble getting all the rail gaps out on some curves of mixed track brands, the Piko Geometry would explain that.

I'll have to check it against the aristo-craft and LGB track I have when I pull it out of storage this year.

Thanks

Nm-Jeff
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: Wade Colyer on October 30, 2011, 08:37:01 AM
Hi Hunt:

Thanks for the link. I remember seeing it somewhere but could not find it.

Wade
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: Udo on October 30, 2011, 08:54:26 PM
Hi all,
yesterday I had some pieces of the new track in hand..... at Bachmann shop Shanghai.
It has dark ties (US spacing) and the connectors are srewed from the side. Aditional srews are glued under one of the ties. There is no brand name in the ties, only "made in China".
I have seen this kind of traks earlier already... may be Aristocraft????
Udo
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: NarrowMinded on October 30, 2011, 10:51:00 PM
Hi Udo,

You are right that sounds the same as Aristo-Craft I like the joiners with screws.

I have been thinking of buying more rail clamp type joiners though, they are easier to use for me because you don't need to pay attention to which screw your removing and you don't have to remove the entire screw to take the track apart.

this is only an issue because I set up a layout at Christmas for the kids.

Can't wait to get my hands on some of this.

Lastly did anyone ask or say whether this will come in sets?

NM-Jeff
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: Bucksco on October 31, 2011, 02:33:03 PM
I've been informed by the VP of Product Development that our track represents 1:20.3 scale narrow gauge track.
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: Bucksco on October 31, 2011, 03:57:09 PM
Quote from: Hunt on October 31, 2011, 03:29:44 PM
Yardmaster,
Please confirm or correct the following for Bachmann large scale brass rail track.

Track gauge: 45 mm (1.77 inches) - Correct
Rail code: 332 - Correct
Screw/Rail Joiner System - Correct
Straight section labeled One-foot
Rail is actual 30.5 cm long (12.0 inches) - Correct
Ties: (European or USA) style, has (11 or 14) ties per section  - American - 11 ties per straight section
Two-foot Radius curve section
61.0 cm radius, 122.0 cm diameter - 4' 3 "diameter  

I do not have track in hand so I reserve the right to change these answers when it arrives.
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: rdamurphy on November 04, 2011, 09:39:31 PM
What about switches?
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: sandyt on November 11, 2011, 04:39:18 AM
Track sounds good. Looking forward to getting it here in the UK. Any word of bigger curves and switches?
For Narrow minded. Rail clamps are a very good idea. Some people I know have replaced all their joiners with these. Best I have found are by a German electronics company who make DCC equipment - Sandy - Scottish Garden Railways
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: Bucksco on November 11, 2011, 07:15:18 AM
Patience grasshopper.....
We will have future releases.....
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: bbenardo on November 11, 2011, 02:50:13 PM
Is the brass track going to be Solid rail or Hollow like what comes in the sets?
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: Bucksco on November 11, 2011, 03:14:22 PM
Solid Brass Rail
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: armorsmith on November 11, 2011, 11:44:06 PM
Mr Bachmann,

Can you tell us, will the diameters of the curved track match the diameter dimensions of Aristo/USA?

Bob C.
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: the Bach-man on November 12, 2011, 11:36:19 PM
Dear Armor,
Yes, they will.
Have fun!
the Bach-man
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: ScottyB on November 13, 2011, 10:35:04 AM
Saw some at Trainfest yesterday - looks great.  The rail is solid brass and I would imagine it matching up well with other manufacturers code 332 track.  The ties I would describe as on the narrow side - like the "American style" used by others.  Not sure on the spacing as I didn't have another piece to compare it to, but to my eye it appeared very similar again to the "American style."  The Bachmann name was stamped on the bottom of the ties.

Looked very nice.  As with all track, I think the price point will be the main factor in its success.

Scott
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on November 13, 2011, 10:52:20 PM
If Bachmann can beat the others price point on the street, people will definitely buy it.    It remains to be seen.   Will we see the new track in any sets??  Will we see the metal geared 4-6-0 chassis in Big haulers?   Lots of possibilities exist!!   If willl be fun to watch.

Cheers

Bill
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: Mark Oles on November 16, 2011, 10:34:04 AM
Having worked with a lot of track over the years,  the ties appear to be unlike any used by aristocraft or LGB.  The ties appear to extend much further than the other brand ties, indicating a new kind of track offering: brass 332 rail with american narrow gauge ties. 

While I'm no longer in favor of brass track for outdoor use,  there are others who may have been looking for this exact kind of track, so good for them! 
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: StanAmes on November 16, 2011, 08:10:03 PM
Quote from: Udo on October 30, 2011, 08:54:26 PM
Hi all,
yesterday I had some pieces of the new track in hand..... at Bachmann shop Shanghai.
It has dark ties (US spacing) and the connectors are srewed from the side. Aditional srews are glued under one of the ties. There is no brand name in the ties, only "made in China".
I have seen this kind of traks earlier already... may be Aristocraft????
Udo

Udo

Often you see things much sooner than we do in the states.  However this time I think your shop had some Aristo Track on hand rather then the new Bachmann track.  I got a few samples to try out and it is clearly different.

1) The ties I have say Bachmann underneath
2) The ties are more of a dark brown then black
3) The spacing and tie length is US Narrow Gauge in 1:20 rather then Standard Gauge in 1:29  The look is clearly different.
4) The Aristo track places the extra screws in wax under the ties.  With the Bachmann track the extra screws are placed in the track holes at each end.

In my opinion the new track complements the 1:20 rollling stock a lot better then other code 332 product in the market.

Following are two photos I took of the new track.  The first shows a close up of the track.  The second shows the Bachmann Ties in the center with an Aristo US ties on top and European ties on the bottom.  A short section of the Bachmann ties is shown on the top left to show that they are also a little longer.

(http://www.tttrains.com/largescale/images/bachmanntrack.jpg)
(http://www.tttrains.com/largescale/images/bachmannties.jpg)

Stan
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on November 16, 2011, 10:46:00 PM
Wow Stan,  that is a great comparison!!   Looks like the new track will be a great addition to compliment the 1:20.3 Bachmann line!!   I like the idea of the brown color too.

bill
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: NarrowMinded on November 17, 2011, 12:48:59 AM
This is great news!

I can't wait for all the rivet counter types to start pulling up their none proto track they have been making due with and selling it cheap ;D

Out of a hundred or so feet of track I have, two one foot sections were bought new... and that's because they were needed in a hurry.

Of coarse I may buy a few of these sections for loco's displayed in the living room.

Nm-Jeff
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: rslater on November 17, 2011, 06:53:45 AM
The ties look really good..Will they be available, in bulk,  for those of us who don't use brass track?  Is the base of the rail 7mm?
???
Rick S
Title: Re: New Bachmann Track
Post by: Mark Oles on November 17, 2011, 11:32:43 AM
Very nice!  Interested to see what the street price of this will be.  I suspect that aristo will stop making the euro track....