Now that Duck may be on the way I feel we should address an important part of the model. The Face.
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110413193827/ttte/images/9/93/TheRunaway7.png)
In my opinion it would be terrible if after all the waiting Duck is given a season 12 face. This would be worse I think than not having the model at all (Well maybe not) but nevertheless BACHMANN should know what face we want.
Please use this thread, suggest faces.
I'd like either this face:
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101212163059/ttte/images/d/df/BuzzBuzz34.png)
or this face:
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100618050026/ttte/images/6/60/ToadStandsBy4.jpg)
If it had to be a CG face, then I'd like this one:
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100425232450/ttte/images/thumb/8/83/DuckCGI.PNG/141px-DuckCGI.PNG)
have u notest that the cgi faces make the engines look younger !!
but i like the 2nd face its a kind face and the 1st time i watched a episode with duck in it he had that face.and it makes me :)
Regarding the younger CGI faces - I had read somewhere that the intent is for the engines to be children - to look and act like children. It makes it easier for human children to relate. Still, some of the engines seem older than the others. One of them, to me anyway, is Duck.
This is the face I HIGHLY recommend.
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100103235332/ttte/images/5/51/Donald%27sDuck6.png)
Quote from: RW James on February 07, 2012, 02:35:35 PM
Regarding the younger CGI faces - I had read somewhere that the intent is for the engines to be children - to look and act like children. It makes it easier for human children to relate. Still, some of the engines seem older than the others. One of them, to me anyway, is Duck.
Perhaps that's why characters such as Duck were omitted from the series. They acted too maturely for the intended audience.
good point m8 ;)
Quote from: MetaDude27 on February 07, 2012, 08:02:04 AM
I'd like either this face:
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101212163059/ttte/images/d/df/BuzzBuzz34.png)
That is practically j219's suggested face, except with with white paint filled in the mouth. The modellers often did that when the third season was filmed. other examples would be on Donald and Douglas, Bill and Ben, Terence, and Bertie. Regardless, I still would like to see this face on the Bachmann Duck, if it's released.
(http://ttte.wikia.com/index.php?title=Duck&image=DucktakesCharge8-png)
My choice if it's gonna be model-styled. :D
(http://ttte.wikia.com/index.php?title=Duck&image=CGIDuck-png)
If it were CGI...
Sorry for double-posting, but they wouldn't allow me to post 2 pics in one post for some reason. :P
@thomasj219 No offense, but what's with giving him a Season 12 face being terrible? I see no problem in it, it is the Modern Times, you know. Big pardon of course (as Duck would say), but any kind of face goes fine with me. ;)
Cupix the Azelf - here are the two images you wanted:
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100104002841/ttte/images/5/57/DucktakesCharge8.png) (http://ttte.wikia.com/index.php?title=Duck&image=DucktakesCharge8-png)
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110205052727/ttte/images/a/a4/CGIDuck.png) (http://ttte.wikia.com/index.php?title=Duck&image=CGIDuck-png)
Well, because he is a classi model that face, those defining high cheek bones are his. Imagine how cool that would look on a BACHMANN model. The Season 12 face doesn't capture the character at all. I realise times change but there are some things that should be as that were in the past, this is one of them.
I must say that for a model that has been so long waited for, I think Bachman should do what we all want on this fantastic soon to be model, Duck's clay face. I've been waiting for this day ever since I've started modeling, and I must say, I almost cried when I heard that bachmann was gonna make duck, although he is not officially confirmed, I must say the day I found out they might actually produce my favorite character, was a day I'll never forget. But come to think of it, even though that diesel was a classic character, they still gave him a CGI face... But his CGI face actually somewhat looked like the model's clay face. Duck's CGI face on the other hand, has little to almost completely no resemblance to the original clay face. So I honestly think Bachmann will do what's right and give us the face we grew up with, with those high cheek bones, and that cheeky smile. Not a face that has a typical, quaint, smile, with no shapes. And plus the fact that he only had the CGI face only 2 or 3 times! So if Bachman were to give him that face that was seen 2,3 times, rather than one that stuck around for almost 7 seasons I'd find it very odd, and strange of Bachmann to do something like that.
Oh ya and... Hi I'm back! :)
Duck is bringing everyone back. :D
Quote from: MetaDude27 on February 07, 2012, 08:02:04 AM
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100618050026/ttte/images/6/60/ToadStandsBy4.jpg)
ORQuote from: thomasj219 on February 07, 2012, 12:15:02 AM
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110413193827/ttte/images/9/93/TheRunaway7.png)
I'd choose these.
Quote from: JD417 on February 08, 2012, 02:22:44 AM
I must say that for a model that has been so long waited for, I think Bachman should do what we all want on this fantastic soon to be model, Duck's clay face. I've been waiting for this day ever since I've started modeling, and I must say, I almost cried when I heard that bachmann was gonna make duck, although he is not officially confirmed, I must say the day I found out they might actually produce my favorite character, was a day I'll never forget. But come to think of it, even though that diesel was a classic character, they still gave him a CGI face... But his CGI face actually somewhat looked like the model's clay face. Duck's CGI face on the other hand, has little to almost completely no resemblance to the original clay face. So I honestly think Bachmann will do what's right and give us the face we grew up with, with those high cheek bones, and that cheeky smile. Not a face that has a typical, quaint, smile, with no shapes. And plus the fact that he only had the CGI face only 2 or 3 times! So if Bachman were to give him that face that was seen 2,3 times, rather than one that stuck around for almost 7 seasons I'd find it very odd, and strange of Bachmann to do something like that.
Oh ya and... Hi I'm back! :)
JJ Debray-bray's back yayz!!! ;D
~sigh~
yes Alex, i'm back but only until the toy fair, when we get the conformation, or not, of Duck
if we end up getting a CGI faced duck, not only am i not buying it....but i may cry... :'(
Quote from: RW James on February 08, 2012, 01:22:44 AM
Cupix the Azelf - here are the two images you wanted:
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100104002841/ttte/images/5/57/DucktakesCharge8.png) (http://ttte.wikia.com/index.php?title=Duck&image=DucktakesCharge8-png)
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110205052727/ttte/images/a/a4/CGIDuck.png) (http://ttte.wikia.com/index.php?title=Duck&image=CGIDuck-png)
Thanks, the internet hates me or maybe I'm not doing it right. ??? How do I do it?
Quote from: Cupix the Azelf on February 08, 2012, 07:27:21 PM
Thanks, the internet hates me or maybe I'm not doing it right. ??? How do I do it?
When you select a photo on the Thomas wikia, you will see a button in the lower right ""Embed". Click on that and it will open three options - the bottom one is "Forum". Click on the url in the Forum box and copy it. Then simply paste it into the message box here. That should do it.
Honestly, I really like this face:
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110205052727/ttte/images/a/a4/CGIDuck.png) (http://ttte.wikia.com/index.php?title=Duck&image=CGIDuck-png)
*hides behind chair, expecting angry mob*
It would really go with Diesel's face:
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110221161133/ttte/images/7/71/ThomasandtheBillboard53.jpg) (http://ttte.wikia.com/index.php?title=Thomas_and_the_Billboard&image=ThomasandtheBillboard53-jpg)
(^^closest season twelve face to bachmann model^^)
I think this is what will happen.
SPT
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110524041725/ttte/images/1/1a/DuckTVmodel.jpg) (http://ttte.wikia.com/index.php?title=Duck&image=DuckTVmodel-jpg)
Testing, testing! :D
Maybe it's good if Bachmann give the engines the faces from the behind the scenes/promo shots (except for Rheneas who has his cross face on.)
Quote from: Cupix the Azelf on February 08, 2012, 08:16:36 PM
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110524041725/ttte/images/1/1a/DuckTVmodel.jpg) (http://ttte.wikia.com/index.php?title=Duck&image=DuckTVmodel-jpg)
Testing, testing! :D
Maybe it's good if Bachmann give the engines the faces from the behind the scenes/promo shots (except for Rheneas who has his cross face on.)
Funny, when I was going through the wiki deciding what face it would be, I was considering that face, but I do like the CGI face
better
i forone love that face but if we get a horrid face like on engines such as thomas,percy,henry,toby,james then i'll just buy a old duck model like um remember the ones hat u had to buy at the news agents and it came with a book and track the face of that would be perfect. just me opinion
Quote from: hornbyfan on February 08, 2012, 08:13:40 PM
Honestly, I really like this face:
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110205052727/ttte/images/a/a4/CGIDuck.png) (http://ttte.wikia.com/index.php?title=Duck&image=CGIDuck-png)
*hides behind chair, expecting angry mob*
I think it's a nice face, too. Sure, a classic-style face would be a better choice, but if Bachmann chooses to make him with a CGI-style face, then I wouldn't mind
too much.
Quote from: AJW98Productions on February 08, 2012, 07:25:29 AM
JJ Debray-bray's back yayz!!! ;D
Oh well thank you! I know you didn't mean me but I'm back too!
LOL
Honestly, a CGI face would ruin it visually for me. Part of Ducks basic appearance is his larger face and familiar cheek bones, which the CGI lacks. No thanks.
u know the more u post cgi ducks face the more the company might like it :o
Yeah, so? :P
Bachmann doesn't always get ideas from the forums, they find out themselves or from HiT. :)
Which HiTs decisions are influenced by what the fans want.
While kids may be the target audience of the show, it seems us older fans are more the target audience of the Bachmann models. That's "so." ::)
Model face...no contest.
Quote from: Sparks on February 08, 2012, 10:41:23 PM
Which HiTs decisions are influenced by what the fans want.
While kids may be the target audience of the show, it seems us older fans are more the target audience of the Bachmann models. That's "so." ::)
I don't think "so."! ;D
Young children can still play with model trains (not too young ones, though)
HiT's pretty much like "We'll give what they "want" and if they don't like it, Haters gonna hate."
@thomasj219 what about Diesel's, then? He got a CGI face and not a model face (I may know reasons why the face wasn't made) so I guess CGI won that "contest".
In a contest of preference it did not, people were upset about the CGI face, but Diesel is a prominent character on the CGI series Duck is not, so I have a feeling the model face will be used.
And with Diesel they gave him his classic silver side rods, this makes it clear to me that BACHMANN thinks about the older fans and more particularly the fans on this forum. The model face with his high cheek bones is his character, the CGI is simplistic. To sell a product it needs something that stands out not blends in, the model face would do this perfectly, as you can see the face with BACHMANN's style of packaging.
I am confident that Duck will be given the proper face, the face that the model we have been waiting for, for almost 10 years deserves.
Please prove me right BACHMANN.
Quote from: Cupix the Azelf on February 09, 2012, 12:27:44 AM
Quote from: Sparks on February 08, 2012, 10:41:23 PM
Which HiTs decisions are influenced by what the fans want.
While kids may be the target audience of the show, it seems us older fans are more the target audience of the Bachmann models. That's "so." ::)
I don't think "so."! ;D
Young children can still play with model trains (not too young ones, though)
HiT's pretty much like "We'll give what they "want" and if they don't like it, Haters gonna hate."
@thomasj219 what about Diesel's, then? He got a CGI face and not a model face (I may know reasons why the face wasn't made) so I guess CGI won that "contest".
The boxes say 8+. An electric train is not made to be "played" with. If you are doing so, then I would advise you to stop. Any sort of rough housing, banging, etc. being done with an engine isn't ever intended, and the loose parts on each engine give evidence to that. I don't understand your logic when us older fans are the most vocal in the Bachmann Thomas fan base. If HiT is getting any sort of statistic of whats demanded from this range, it's going to most likely be from us.
Duck will not be getting a CGI face, without a question. He will be getting a classic face for the following reasons:
1. Duck's CGI face was only shown in season 12 which never aired in Asian countries (including Japan, China, etc.). Bachmann models are made in China. They will have a model face for Duck as a reference.
2. Duck has never appeared in full CGI, despite his season 12 face. He is more throughly recognized with his model looks, including the face! The only reason why Diesel had a CGI face was because he is already in CGI form and it matches his current representation on the show. Don't believe me? Look at the Bachmann Donald and Douglas models, and even the Ben model as they are prime examples of this.
3. Duck's CGI face is too small and lacks cheekbones. It's extremely inaccurate and it'd also be too hard for Bachmann to model for the character.
4. Duck is a character who is loved by the older fans of Thomas. Bachmann recognizes this and how long fans have been waiting for Duck, so they'll want to make the model worth waiting for.
5. Thomas fans would mope and complain on boards and fansites everywhere. This happened with Diesel as well as some of the CGI rolling stock updates. It would hurt the sales for Duck, which would make it a poor seller which I'm sure Bachmann wants to steer away from.
My opinion, I can see the face shown in Bowled Out that was pointed out earlier on the Bachmann Duck. It represents his character very nicely, and Bachmann generally aims for 'toothy' kinds of grins with most of their models.
Couldn't have put it better myself and EXCELLENT point about Donald & Douglas. I am certain that Duck will have a model face, I can't see any reason that he wouldnt, because you are right, sales would drop and could you imagine the c
On a side note Sif says that an old and missed character will be returning in Season 16, could it be Duck?
If it is I doubt this would effect BACHMANN's model of him as the model is most likely already in production If indeed he is coming out. Nevertheless it would be cool to see him again. :)
My guess is that the returning character is Duke, since apparently he's getting a Wooden Railway redesign:
http://rollalongthomas.blogspot.com/2012/02/wooden-railway-rheneas-sparks-more.html (http://rollalongthomas.blogspot.com/2012/02/wooden-railway-rheneas-sparks-more.html)
Of course, a return of any classic character is always welcome. :)
Wow that would be great I love Duke, he is my favorite narrow gauge engine.
Yeah, Duke would be great to return.
Apprently, Bertram is being relaunched too, although I doubt this... could he be returning too? His tank engine form is being remade so if he were to return, maybe he would be in his tank engine form or his normal tender form... ???
Hold on hold on, we dont even know for sure if Duck is being made. Sorry for being a party pooper but its true, we didnt exactly here it from a ligit source. Imagine the dsiappointment we all would have if Duck wasnt going to be made.
Im not saying I dont want Duck though, I want him alot. ;D ;D
Its on SiF now so I'm sold.
Quote from: PasqualeCS96 on February 10, 2012, 04:09:00 PM
Hold on hold on, we dont even know for sure if Duck is being made. Sorry for being a party pooper but its true, we didnt exactly here it from a ligit source. Imagine the dsiappointment we all would have if Duck wasnt going to be made.
Im not saying I dont want Duck though, I want him alot. ;D ;D
I completely agree. I know the announcement isn't from a 100% reliable source; however, I highly doubt that Simon would announce something false on his blog. It would be self-destructive to his reputation, and I don't think that anyone would want to do that to themselves.
What is SiF?
Sodor Island Forums, the biggest Thomas forum that talks to HiT and often has inside information.
Also remember that the season 12 faces on the models were dramatically altered when making the full CGI switch. For example, Arry and Bert's season 12 faces were PUNY compared to their full CGI faces. Compare this photo of their season 12 faces:
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110708152922/ttte/images/thumb/7/7a/Don%27tGoBack21.png/557px-Don%27tGoBack21.png)
...to their full CGI counterparts:
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110226185904/ttte/images/thumb/f/fd/VictorSaysYes6.png/523px-VictorSaysYes6.png)
This holds true for all the other characters as well, including Thomas. Just look at this:
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100119140329/ttte/images/thumb/4/42/Thomaspromo.png/385px-Thomaspromo.png)
VERSES
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100218100145/ttte/images/1/1c/ThomasSeason13promo3.jpg)
So, even if Bachmann does decide to use a CGI face for Duck, I'm sure it would be far better compared to the sad excuse of a face that HiT gave Duck in season 12. Though I highly doubt this will happen, ya never know what HiT will do :P
Hit doesn't own Thomas anymore.....It's owned and licensed by Mattel....
Duck has no CGI face besides season 12
Quote from: thomasj219 on February 10, 2012, 10:46:16 PM
Duck has no CGI gave besides season 12
I assume you mean "face", since the "g" is right next to the "f" and the "v" is right next to the "c" on a QWERTY keyboard. ;)
Hahah yeah I'll go fix that, but he has no other CGI face and I doubt they will create one just for the model.
Quote from: thomasj219 on February 11, 2012, 02:17:08 PM
Hahah yeah I'll go fix that, but he has no other CGI face and I doubt they will create one just for the model.
Yeah, I agree.
If Duck would be the returning classic character in season 16 (which I believe is false, as according to the WiKia Duke is said to possibly be returning) a new face would have already been rendered for him by Nitrogen. Mattel would probably supply Bachmann with the new face. I'm not saying that will happen, as Duck probably isn't the returning character, but it's just a possible suggestion.
Yes I thought that, but I'm almost positive the character returning is Duke, so no worries.
Quote from: ThomasFan247 on February 10, 2012, 09:40:44 PM
Also remember that the season 12 faces on the models were dramatically altered when making the full CGI switch. For example, Arry and Bert's season 12 faces were PUNY compared to their full CGI faces. Compare this photo of their season 12 faces:
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110708152922/ttte/images/thumb/7/7a/Don%27tGoBack21.png/557px-Don%27tGoBack21.png)
...to their full CGI counterparts:
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110226185904/ttte/images/thumb/f/fd/VictorSaysYes6.png/523px-VictorSaysYes6.png)
This holds true for all the other characters as well, including Thomas. Just look at this:
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100119140329/ttte/images/thumb/4/42/Thomaspromo.png/385px-Thomaspromo.png)
VERSES
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100218100145/ttte/images/1/1c/ThomasSeason13promo3.jpg)
So, even if Bachmann does decide to use a CGI face for Duck, I'm sure it would be far better compared to the sad excuse of a face that HiT gave Duck in season 12. Though I highly doubt this will happen, ya never know what HiT will do :P
Whenever I see that screenshot of 'Arry and Bert's Season 12 faces in that episode, I somehow see more of the ladderless Class 08 in them. ;)
Hey All,
Here is Sodoradventures Face idea:
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101212163059/ttte/images/d/df/BuzzBuzz34.png)
My Favorite of all. :)
Gotta agree SodorAdventures. So that is the face for SodorAdventures and TrainsofSodor!
That's perfect for Duck I think. I'd be happy with that one, but if they made him with the one Hornby based theirs on, I wouldn't mind. Would be my preference though- the one above makes him look much more cheery.
Quote from: SodorAdventures on February 12, 2012, 08:43:15 PM
Hey All,
Here is Sodoradventures Face idea:
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101212163059/ttte/images/d/df/BuzzBuzz34.png)
My Favorite of all. :)
IF.. there is a Duck being made, that face would most certainly be perfect!
Quote from: JD417 on February 08, 2012, 03:07:13 PM
~sigh~
yes Alex, i'm back but only until the toy fair, when we get the conformation, or not, of Duck
Did I annoy the living daylights out of you by any chance because it seems like I have, also my wifi's been down for almost a week and I just got it back so sorry on my late repies and my absence on skype
Quote from: JJ96 on February 08, 2012, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: AJW98Productions on February 08, 2012, 07:25:29 AM
JJ Debray-bray's back yayz!!! ;D
Oh well thank you! I know you didn't mean me but I'm back too!
LOL
I meant JD417, soz bro.
Quote from: thomasj219 on February 12, 2012, 11:54:52 AM
Yes I thought that, but I'm almost positive the character returning is Duke, so no worries.
According to my friend from the forums, it's not an Awdry created character that is returning.
My current speculations are these:
Harvey
Murdoch
Dennis -Norman is his twin, so it would make sense...
Quote from: JJ96 on February 08, 2012, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: AJW98Productions on February 08, 2012, 07:25:29 AM
JJ Debray-bray's back yayz!!! ;D
Oh well thank you! I know you didn't mean me but I'm back too!LOL
QuoteI meant JD417, soz bro.
I KNOW!
Quote from: therailwayinspector on February 15, 2012, 05:18:01 AM
Quote from: thomasj219 on February 12, 2012, 11:54:52 AM
Yes I thought that, but I'm almost positive the character returning is Duke, so no worries.
According to my friend from the forums, it's not an Awdry created character that is returning.
My current speculations are these:
Harvey
Murdoch
Dennis -Norman is his twin, so it would make sense...
BUT it is highly rumored on the Wikia that Duke is returning.
He may do, but the Wiki is just one/a few peoples own opinions, I doubt it as it has been revealled on SiF that it's a non-Awdry character....
If it's Dennis then he should hopefully have learned to be really useful as opposed to being lazy, because as the fat controller states:My engines work hard, I send lazy engines away.
I doubt it's Dennis, they say its a character missed by fans and is Dennis missed by many? No. It is someone more recgonizable.
If Awdry then I'd wanna see...
Duck,
Stepney,
Oliver,
BoCo,
Duke, or
The Twins
Not his..
Harvey,
Murdoch,
Fergus,
Arthur,
Stanley, or
Hank
Soon we will find out what Duck's face will be, so I thought I'd bring this back for the weekend. One last hurrah to see if we did it. ;)
He only had a few appreances in the CGI show in season 12 so i don't think he would have his CGI face. Diesel only had it due to him becoming regular in the CGI series. The twins(Bill Ben and D&D) didn't have them not even Salty. Cgi styled faces are an order from Hit to all toy company's so if Bachmnann remade Thomas Percy and James as sparks wants they would have their CGI faces like the large scales.
If Bachmann made 'Arry and Bert, they WILL get CGI faces. I don't think Oliver was in the CGI series, so that will be an exception.
Quote from: TrainFan97 on August 04, 2012, 12:59:08 PM
If Bachmann made 'Arry and Bert, they WILL get CGI faces. I don't think Oliver was in the CGI series, so that will be an exception.
He was in season 12, but same as Duck, it is unlikely he would get a CGI face.
Quote from: Calebtrain on August 04, 2012, 01:40:20 PM
Quote from: TrainFan97 on August 04, 2012, 12:59:08 PM
If Bachmann made 'Arry and Bert, they WILL get CGI faces. I don't think Oliver was in the CGI series, so that will be an exception.
He was in season 12, but same as Duck, it is unlikely he would get a CGI face.
It's just that I never pay attention to the CGI series.
I accually WANT a cgi face ;D
Yeah but hopefully that won't happen. What makes you want that anyway?
It wasn't really represented properly in season 12.... :-\
Not at ALL the BACHMANN model has to have the model face, I know most would be disappointed if it didn't.
I'm weird ;D
Ok then, so I think Duck will have the face he has in the name board segments you know?
Quote from: Cupix the Azelf on August 05, 2012, 09:45:33 PM
Quote from: Shawn on August 05, 2012, 09:12:02 PM
I'm weird ;D
Indeed you are. :D
YOU NO WEIRD! MEH WANDOM BRANDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Yea, gotta love what stays on the forum and what gets deleted. ::)