so? N-scale or Ho-scale? i'm starting a new layout and can decide
Quote from: hudson488 on March 16, 2012, 01:16:07 PM
so? N-scale or Ho-scale? i'm starting a new layout and can decide
So flip a coin.
Rich
How much space do you have available and what do you want to accomplish?
On30 or Large Scale?
how are your eyes and hands????
That's the real question!!!!! :o
OK, HO scale is the dominant scale in the hobby. You can get most anything you want in terms of locos, rolling stock, structures, kits, track, etc. It may come down to what type of railroad are you representing. A heavy-duty main line operation asks for decent main line curves - about 30" minimum radius. If you've got the room to handle that, I'd go for HO. If you want to do heavy-duty railroading and you have space constraints, then go with N. There isn't quite the selection of models in N scale as HO, but it's close. You're curves can then be in the 15 - 16" range. There is also the matter of the overall appearance of the layout. If you want to focus more on the models, HO. If you want the scene to really dominate the trains, N is your choice.
If you like Steam engines or any with sound then HO is the answer.
Ho also has the electrics. E60 E33 GG1
Working rotary snow plow also.
Bob
Quote from: Yardmaster on March 16, 2012, 02:24:20 PM
On30 or Large Scale?
Why not both?
Hudson488.
No one can tell you which scale is better, they all have their pro's and con's. Of the two scales, I like HO better, but you can do twice as much in the same space with N. But then you have to have better eyes for N. Remember, it's your railroad, not ours, it should the scale you like.
depends on how much space you have and what you like to model
you can get 99% of any american train ever made in ho
n has less and sometimes can be more expensive and more harder to maintain but has plenty of space
having done both HO and N scales i can tell you that HO is alot less sensitive to dirty track. with n scale you will need to put the railroad in a dust free environment. and avoid having smokers in the train room.
it is true that you can get alot more layout in a given space than ho but it comes with trade offs. most importantly, most n scale cars have truck mounted couplers. if you are going to build a layout where you intend to do alot of switching of cars, you may want to consider HO. or take the time to mount new couplers on the car bodies. this will drastically improve reliability when backing up.
another thing you have to watch out for in N scale is tunnels. in HO if you have a train derail in a short tunnel you can reach into the portal to retrieve your cars. in N scale, your hand won't fit in the portal so you have to have another way of retrieving your cars, like a hole in the baseboard inside your mountain.
overall, i really like the towering mountains i can build in N scale, but i prefer the reliability and ease of maintainance i get with HO.
whatever scale you choose, do yourself a huge favour and invest in some good locomotives. there is some real junk out there, especially the older stuff. on diesels, things like traction tires, or only one truck geared, are tip offs that you probably want to look at something else. good locomotives have all wheels powered and don't need rubber tires. they also pick up electricity from all wheels.
Hmmm, it would seem the "eyes" have it...HO. [No, I just couldn't help myself with that one.] If I had better (read: younger) vision I would definitely try N-scale; I don't, so it will be HO for the rest of my modeling 'career'.
Good luck with whatever 'scale' you choose,
Ray
At 63 and since I have always needed glasses and magnification to do many things N scale is just fine.
I simply could not do the layout I want in the space I have if I did HO.
Even with a larger space I would just do a bigger and better N scale. :D
this may help with the comments: i am young so vision and 'Hand shakes' haven't gotten to me, but my layout space is 4x8 plus a few lines running off of the main table. BUT no need for comment anymore, friends, I've started with n-scale, thanks for the input!
If you would permit another comment, Hudson, I would like to make one.
It is my observation that the limiting factor in choosing a scale is the minimum curve radius required for the equipment you intend to run. This in turn determines the use of the space available. The minimum practical turn radius for N-scale is 9 3/4"; 11 1/2" for passenger cars and six-axle locomotives; larger still for long-wheelbase steam locomotives.
For HO scale, 18" radius minimum; 22 1/2" for most equipment; 24"+ for larger stuff.
Assuming that most people would want some sort of closed-loop track plan, the minimum width of a layout at a 180 degree curve would be double the radius, plus clearance space between the track and the back wall. Unless an open-center, around-the-wall track plan is used.
Although Z-scale is smaller than N at 1/220, the minimum available commercial curve is not really any tighter than N-scale curves, thus eliminating a space-saving factor the scale could otherwise provide. For this reason, plus the high cost of Z, I don't expect Z scale to ever really catch on much. It also suffers from a preponderance of European prototype equipment and ridiculous couplers, two factors that held back N-scale for a long time.
A model railroad in any scale with tight mainline curves can still be a good one. I had an N-scale railroad with 9 3/4" radius curves that served me well from 1979 to 2007.
I will be 63 next month and N-scale suits me fine. I am nearsighted, and can see close-up better without my glasses than with them!
when i was in n scale, i had a u shaped 5x8 layout, with 14"r as minimum radius. that is the equivalent of 24r in HO, big enough to run almost anything. i had well over 60 feet of track in this space, and while the track was convoluted there was plenty of room. the layout did not look overcrowded. a move to a new house, with layout space in a dusty basement, led me back into HO. but overall i had gotten good results from N in a clean room.
Well, I'm only ten, and I do N, but you have to have good eyesight and a lot of patience.Honestly, it's you decision. If you live in an apartment with no young kids,(1-8) I'd do N. If you live in a house with young kids, do HO.It all really depends on your conscience.This is just me, but I think N runs a little better than HO.
:o CATS2287, haven't you read the notice that came out right after we had a change in Washington??? N-Scale are not toys, but models, and are not for those under 14? My Grandson's were very upset when I told them that, the older one, who is now 15 had been running my trains, since he was 12. His younger brother joined us 2 years later when he turned 12. They both have their own engines, and rolling stock, they run their trains when the group of 10 adults, many retired put on exhibits for the public. They have attended shows that we have exhibited at; last year The Great American Train Show, The Golden spike, the NMRA Piedmont Division, The Great Train Expo, as well as a couple of shows at churches to help them raise funds. I comment you for getting involved, and I hope it brings you many years of joy. We run N-Scale, and follow the National T-Trak standards. Those standards have been expanded on, which is what we actually, but still comply with the National Standard so we can also take our modules to National Shows. We have been contacte from others living in Virginia, and Texas to see if we will try and set up at the NMRA show that is coming to Atlanta next year. If can be a lot of fun, so keep it up.