I need some information
While in Florida last weekend, a friend took me to an incredible
all-train hobby shop. I found a 4-passenger car Williams Blue Comet
set no engine just the 4 cars. There was also a 2-car set. There was only one
and the owner said it was the only one he had. I had him put it aside and
let him know if I find a locomotive I'll purchase those 2 sets. Well does Williams
Bachmann make an engine in O-Gauge for the Blue Comet because I can't seem to
find one.
Anyone have some info to help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have you checked with Marty at Ma and Pa junction? He deals with a lot of Williams products and just might find what you are looking for.
Marty found an older Williams GP-38 for me.
Lee F.
I do not remember a Williams Blue Comet model.They may have had one in brass but I have never had any info for Williams brass.
This may be a no-no but Lionel has one in their current catalog.
You might also try www.hollashtrains.com.He is in the Tampa,FL. area and has some older Williams models as well as the late stuff.
Thanks everyone!
I'll see what I come up with. Those Williams Blue Comet passenger cars are really nice.
I am so glad to have discovered Williams the quality of their products is very impressive
Did any other engines or Locomotives pull the Blue Comet cars? Just in case I can't find
the Locomotive?
Williams has a full-scale Hudson in Blue -Jersey Central? Would that work??
Dear Fred,
My old Winter 2003-2004 Williams contemporary (aka "traditional") line catalog page 7
shows the scale Die Cast Hudson Jersey Central Blue Comet as #HUD-133.
"Navigates O-42 curves."
They steer you towards the 72' Madison cars on page 29 (also O-42).
On that page it says, "Check out the Matching Hudsons on Pg. 7".
The 4 car set includes a Baggage, 2 Coach (now on-line WBB called "Pullman") and an Observation: Jersey Central #SM246.
The 2 car add-on set includes a Combine and Diner: Jersey Central (Blue Comet) #SM246CD.
The current on-line catalog WBB 40207 Jersey Central Hudson appears to be the same as the old Blue comet HUD-133,
although the old catalog drawing/painting looks a little darker than the current WBB on-line picture.
Hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Joe Satnik
That should be a good choice.
I think the Blue Comet was pulled by a Pacific.But I wouldn't care.I'd use the Hudson.It is a very nice loco.
Dear Folks
Thank you all so VERY much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I checked on that Hudson and yes it is a Jersey Central in BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and it's available!!!!!!
I am calling the fella in Florida right now to get the Blue Comet cars
and then I'll put in an order for the Blue Hudson.
A very sincere Thank You to you all
if I can get my daughter to help me I will post pictures when I get everything !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Found out every thing shipped from Florida today
Should have it by the weekend and report then!!!!!
"The waiting is the hardest part..."
Tom Petty 1981
Everything arrived Friday will open it with my son later this weekend.
My other son has All-Star baseball today so we will be busy.
Will report later
Last night came home early enough to open the 2-Car set of the
Blue Comet. Very impressive !!!!!!!!!!!
The colors are very well done. There is a lot of attention to detail.
Since I am still learning about "model" size. I was so excited to find
Blue Comet Passenger cars I didn't pay attention that they were 72'
They are BIG !! and look real impressive on the track. When my wife came
down stairs to get "Joey " for bed she stopped and looked and said,
"Wow, those are really nice" (word for word quote!!!)
Will try to get the 4 car set open tonight and report back . They barely make the
O-36 curves so I plan to go with some O-60 on the outer layout !!!
Later!!
Sorry for taking so long..
Hope to open the 4-car Blue Comet 72' Passenger cars later this week or by the
weekend. My 13 year old is in All-Stars and they are having one exciting series of
Tournaments and we have to do a lot of traveling.
"Joey" keeps begging to open them up.
Later
The Team won again last night so we were home late last night
Tonight we have a double header. Very tough team!
We will open the Blue Comets sometime Saturday and then I will post comments.
I also found a Williams Blue Hudson New Jersey O-Gauge!!!!!!!!!
Hobby Shop said they would put it on Lay-Away if I want.
Is this the one to pull the Blue Comet Madison's!!
That blue is really sharp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The blue Hudson should be just fine.It is a large loco and will look,IMHO,great with those cars.
Finally started to open the 72' Blue Comet Madison Cars.
On initial looks WOW!! Williams did an awesome job.
We are still in Baseball playoff's and I will be out of town a few days for Semi-finals.
Then I can give more details. If you come across these passenger cars
GRAB THEM !!! The colours, the detail very very nice!!!!!
Does anyone know when Williams came out with these sets??
Dear Fred,
I don't know when the first Williams 72' Madison cars came out, nor when the Jersey Central Blue Comet paint scheme first appeared on them.
However,
Bob Keller reviewed 2 Williams train sets in the Classic Toy Trains September 1996 issue (p. 36-37),
both led by A-A Baldwin Shark diesels.
A PRR 4 car freight set with brass cars,
and a B&O 4 car passenger set (gray and blue with gold trim) with 72 foot (O-42) "scale Madison cars", plastic body, die cast trucks and dual pickup rollers.
Hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Joe Satnik
Edit: grammar
Dear Joe
I would say you are somewhere in the ball park as the shrink wrap around
the boxes showed some age and the boxes came apart at the seams. No big deal as
I easily repaired it with Elmers Glue and they are fine !!
To Williams credit they are beautifully packaged to protect them from any "trauma".
The attention to detail is impressive !!! the doors OPEN with a spring action !!!!
The lighting of the cars is very nicely done and the light distribution seems uniform
throughout the length of the car. Even the lanterns at the rear end of the
of the observation car light up!!!!! I am so tempted to look into 72' passenger cars
as the quality has really impressed me !! I had to oil the wheels. I use Break Free
Collectors oil it has no harsh chemicals or solvents. The wheels rolled smoothly after
that!!!!! Like I mentioned previously if you are even half considering these cars and
find go for it you won't regret it
More Later!!!!
Finally had an opportunity to order a FULL-Scale Hudson of the New Jersey
locomotive that pulled the Blue Comet.
It's a Williams Locomotive and when I receive it I will give a brief review.
Were excited because it will be a full train from engine to passenger cars!!
The Full-Scale Hudson arrived today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After work picked up my son and picked it up at the FedEx Store.
We opened it tonight. If anyone has any hesitation about Williams WBB
DON'T
They package things so gingerly with box upon box and within the styrofoam they
surround the item with foam. Then they thoughtfully use red ribbon to help pull your
item out of the box and even further have 2 holes on the opposite side of the styro-
foam so you can carefully push the item out of the compartment they package it in.
These folks really CARE the engineering of the packaging alone is awesome!!!!!!!
We got the SCALE New Jersey Hudson O-Gauge out of its packaging and on to the track.
It is recomended that you have a minimum o-42 curve. I currently have 0-36 Fas-
Track with 0-48 waiting in a box BUT my son and I wanted to set it up and run it!!
The BLUE on the locomotive matches perfectly with the blue on the Blue Comet 72'
Madison Cars!!!! It is a beautiful engine and looks very commanding and
impressive on the track!!!!!!
When we ran it we have it hooked up to the Lionel CW-80 transformer that comes
with train sets. It does run and pulls ALL the Blue Comet Passenger cars. I have
both the 4 set and the 2 set and hooked them all up and that locomotive pulls them.
I do have to change the track. It does negociate the 0-36 but it should have the 0-42
that Bachmann recommends or the 0-48 which i have. I also think it will do better
with the ZW or Bachmann 90 volt as recommended.
Th engine has a red glow on the bottom under the boiler and the smoke unit is very realistic.
The train sounds only work when I have it in the neutral state as I think it needs those extra volts.
Overall this is an outstanding and very impressive engine. It is a MATCh for the Blue
Comet Passenger Madison Cars which are also impressive and very well done. The
folks at WBB include a extra cow catcher with a coupler attachment as well as replacement bulb and extra wheel traction tires.
If you want to get a Full-Scale Hudson I would recommend you do it with the WBB.
The attention to detail, color, and beauty overall take your breath away and the price
makes it easier to take the plunge.
I am thinking of adding the Santa Fe in the future.
I hope this helps.
I just wanted to add that my son ran the engine over an hour last night.
I oiled it this morning with this Liberty synthetic oil and suddenly the engine is
chugging around the layout without one of us pulling or pushing it around the curves!!!
The trainsounds work while it runs even though I still have it hooked up to the
CW-80.
This is one powerful locomotive as it handles all 6 of the Blue Comet Madison Cars
without a hic-cup!!!!!!!!!
The size is nice and I am tempted to look into getting the Santa-Fe maybe around
Christmas. The blue color which I seemed hesitant about is really nice and the
photos and pictures on line don't do it justice.
That goes for all the WBB engines and rolling stock I have purchased thus far. It
looks SO much better once you have your eye on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you all for all the help and suggestions I have received along the way it
only reinforces that this is the greatest hobby!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dear Fred,
Glad you and your son are enjoying your new trains.
WBB couldn't ask for a better review.
Any chance you could post some pictures?
You mentioned "...getting the Santa Fe..."
Which loco and cars are you thinking about?
(Guessing you mean the Scale Hudson for the loco...)
Wish I had the room and a little extra cash available..
Sincerely,
Joe Satnik
Hi Joe
My daughter is good at taking and posting pictures so as soon as I can get her
to help me I will do that. From other posts I am going to have to get a Bachmann
Transformer as the CW-80 and my old ZW just won't cut it with this full scale
Hudson.
So I will be waiting for Christmas or after Christmas sales to see about the Santa Fe.
When I am down in Florida The Super Hobby Store outside Ft Lauderdale has really
good prices on O-Gauge TRains. That's where I found the Blue Comet Madison
cars that started this whole deal. I think they have a web site I'll try to find there
and post the web address