Well, in just over two weeks we will know Bachmann's plans for next years production.
We were advised some time ago by the Bach Man that is when Bachmann is noted to outline the next years production items.
I hope to see more of the Bachmann steamers become part of the new low cost sound Soundtrax line. I wonder if the Bachmann's Berksire woud be a candidate.
Also,when will the H/w passenger cars be making a comeback?
I think this quote from Yardmaster hints at what one announcement will be............
Quote from: Yardmaster on May 31, 2012, 09:08:51 AM
All new spectrum locomotives will feature this DCC decoder/sound module arrangement. It is a Tsunami decoder with a plug in sound module.
Sid
I am hoping for a 3 Truck Hiesler in Ho. They have one in Large and On30, so that gives more hope plus that is all they need to have the 3 main loggers. A 3 Truck Hiesler is all I need to have all three loggers with sound. I am very impressed with the loggers so far so I think they can pull another good one off.
I personally would like to see a Milwaukee Road 4-8-4 (the Milwaukee Road 261 since Walthers has produced the Cedar Rapids and Superdome 53 as they appear now), a DMIR K class 2-8-0, and one of the most well known movie engines from the west (the Rogers Locomotive Works built Sierra Railroad #3).
Some western steam engines like harrimans and loggers, and Utah freight monsters like DRGW and union pacific power. A medium sized articulated that's a 2-6-6-2 like a N&W Z1/DRGW L-76
I would like to see a Heisler and a 2-4-4 forney in HO scale. Both are offered in On30 and large scale.
i would like to see upgraded models of the old bachmann u36b and f9, plus and emd cow-calf switcher.
How about a good B&O I-5 caboose for all those EM-1's out there? Bill
Mostly good choices there, including an I-5 caboose--some of those lasted into the 1970s, so it would be appropriate even for people modeling the Chessie System.
As to 2-6-6-2s, just to keep the subject alive. . .
http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,13419.0.html
All that would be needed in many cases would be a new smokebox front, side-mounted air compressors, and suitably modified running boards (the molding could incorporate those air compressors to avoid having to make new holes in the boiler casting). . .the standard USRA tender would be appropriate for most of them. . .and the second-hand tender on one of the two that wound up on SP is also made by Bachmann. . .
Very nice items listed. I am hoping for more sound value units in particular a NYC 4-8-4 Niagara since it has been discontinued from the standard line of locomotives.
All the best.
Reinhard
I'm sure the good folks at Bachmann are aware that B&O Cabooses are being covered by other manufacturers, albeit very slowly. Some good suggestions here, though.
I have become resolute to be patient--to wait and see. So far, I've collected at least one of each Spectrum-type model. I'm sure whatever they release, I'm going to get at least one. Somehow, I've contracted some affliction that requires me to collect more locomotives than I could possibly use, despite my will power. I've learned to live with it. ;)
Regards,
Jonathan
Sorry guys, I meant a I-12. Been spending so much time on a old Trains Inc junker(albeit a some what close representation of the early I-5 wagontops) that I'm a little caboose goofy. Finally settled on I-5BA C 2507 and stretched it to 19' WB and narrowed steps after adding roof grabs,side grabs and stack guy wires. Having decals made and waiting on the 36" herald he missed. Also redid a Trains Inc I 5 cupola type, which is a better represention of its class. Took Tichy trucks and drilled out the springs so a set of Branchline springs from a pass truck would slide in, and am pleased with the results. Bill
I'm betting on steam:
1. Ma & Pa 2-8-0 #23-26
2. Re-release of the Ma & Pa 4-6-0
3. Ventura County No. 2, Baldwin 2-6-2
4. Some variant of a big locomotive 4-6-2 or 2-6-6-2
If not, a safe, economical rerun of an older engine upgraded with budget sound and DCC.
Manny
Jonathan,
I think I have the same "Bug"! I have 34 steamers.. Most Bachmann. I live with the affliction, too!
I, too, would like the see a three truck Heisler in HO (or two truck for that matter...hopefully better and lower cost than Rivarossi's), but am still holding out for that model of Western Maryland Big Six Shay that I mentioned last year. I would also like to see a Pacific Coast Shay and/or a 2 truck Shay as well.
As far as rolling stock, Camp Cars would be a nice addition! :)
I, for one would like to see a re-run of the 2 truck Climax with improved gearing, and sound. Also, I would buy a Spectrum Big Six anyday, in a heartbeat. Bachmann could also do WVP&P #12 in 3 and 4 truck versions, and an undecorated one, to boot. Camp cars would be nice, too.
Quote from: thewvnetwork on July 19, 2012, 11:53:46 AM
I, too, would like the see a three truck Heisler in HO (or two truck for that matter...hopefully better and lower cost than Rivarossi's), but am still holding out for that model of Western Maryland Big Six Shay that I mentioned last year. I would also like to see a Pacific Coast Shay and/or a 2 truck Shay as well.
As far as rolling stock, Camp Cars would be a nice addition! :)
Were you the one who was quoting a reliable source last year?
I think a Heisler would be a good guess.
Quote from: Pacific Northern on July 19, 2012, 07:06:37 PM
Quote from: thewvnetwork on July 19, 2012, 11:53:46 AM
I, too, would like the see a three truck Heisler in HO (or two truck for that matter...hopefully better and lower cost than Rivarossi's), but am still holding out for that model of Western Maryland Big Six Shay that I mentioned last year. I would also like to see a Pacific Coast Shay and/or a 2 truck Shay as well.
As far as rolling stock, Camp Cars would be a nice addition! :)
Were you the one who was quoting a reliable source last year?
I think a Heisler would be a good guess.
Well Considering that Bachmann already has a Hiesler in On30 and Large Scale, so it might make since that they would make one in Ho, plus they have the Shay and Climax, they are also 3 truck so a 3 Truck Hiesler might make since.
Hi all, still hoping for more 2-8-8-4's. DM&IR M3-4's and/or SP AC-9.
John B
Good to see steam fans alive and well :) I'm getting really pumped up for the unveiling of the NMRA con's new product announcements. It's always a drum roll, who knows what new steam will roll out now, hopefully there will be a new steam loco coming out. Bachmann's release of the mogul and the EM-1 although really good product development and taking things a step further with a behemoth like the Em-1 being the biggest engine in HO bachmann to my knowledge has produced it has left a western modeler such as myself wondering what's the next jewel they have planned for us?
I'll be honest a harriman/western style mikado or pacific seems to be the biggest unfilled gap just waiting to be filled with all the USRA out there.
We haven't seen a heavy switcher from bachmann yet either or a heisler in HO and yes sign me up for a 2-truck one.
They may be as bold as to offer a standard gauge DRGW articulated, but that's just me crossing my fingers. Blackstone might do it first if they do it.
I like all of the suggestions above ;D
I wish Bachmann would make a NYC caboose that was really a NYC caboose rather than something else with NYC paint. Trix made one of the wooden ones and they sell for a small fortune on EBay these days as do the brass ones. There was a kit for the NYC style bay window caboose but that's no longer available and likewise sells for a pretty penny when you can even find one. Sometimes I think there's a secret PRR cabal that beats up anyone who works for a manufacturer and wants to make anything NYC except Hudsons, L4s with ears out the ears, and of course, the Niagara. Those are all well and good but given that they also always sell you'd think someone might at least make a caboose that was accurate. Until then, I guess it's just ATSF or C&O cabooses in NYC paint.
Given that I never realized how badly I "needed" four EM-1s until Bachmann made them available for a really good price, how can I complain about Bachmann when no one else is even doing as well? Alas, I doubt the things that have been on my wishlist for decades are going to appear but as long as Bachmann keeps coming out with things like the spectacular EM-1 they're going to be getting a big chunk of my Model RR budget.
Quote from: ryeguyisme on July 21, 2012, 03:14:34 AM
Good to see steam fans alive and well :) I'm getting really pumped up for the unveiling of the NMRA con's new product announcements. It's always a drum roll, who knows what new steam will roll out now, hopefully there will be a new steam loco coming out. Bachmann's release of the mogul and the EM-1 although really good product development and taking things a step further with a behemoth like the Em-1 being the biggest engine in HO bachmann to my knowledge has produced it has left a western modeler such as myself wondering what's the next jewel they have planned for us?
I'll be honest a harriman/western style mikado or pacific seems to be the biggest unfilled gap just waiting to be filled with all the USRA out there.
We haven't seen a heavy switcher from bachmann yet either or a heisler in HO and yes sign me up for a 2-truck one.
They may be as bold as to offer a standard gauge DRGW articulated, but that's just me crossing my fingers. Blackstone might do it first if they do it.
I would like to see Bachmann release something in the Harriman series. a new Pacific would be great, then they could follow with a number of other steamers, a Mike, a Consolidation, a Ten Wheeler, A Mogul and an Atlantic. Would give a family of steamers to choose from for Union Pacific, Southern Pacific and Illinois Central fans.
I still say the line up from the northern Midwest (Minnesota [Iron Range and twin cities area], Wisconsin, Iowa and North and South Dakota) is lacking compared to the line up from the east and west.
What's the actual day this announcement is supposed to happen? :)
Quote from: thewvnetwork on July 25, 2012, 11:19:30 PM
What's the actual day this announcement is supposed to happen? :)
The 29th at the very earliest but I'm hanging on by the fingernails on this one, I have a really good feeling about announcements this year, or maybe I'm being an optimist
The "official" announcment occurs with the opening of the train show, which will be next Friday, the 3rd. Some intelligence might leak out a bit earlier in the week.
Wow, I don't know if I can wait that long lol. I really hope the intelligence takes pity on us lol.
Well, its the 29th. Can they tease us much longer?
Well, they can up to five more days... :-\
I guess you feel like a kid, five days before Christmas.
All day, no response to this thread by anyone at the event? That's crazy.
RAM, FYI, I am a kid, well, adolescent really, that's just my impatient side showing through, and, Steam Is King, please, tell us more.
Manufacturer's hall opens on Friday.
Yardmaster, does this mean that the usual NMRA new item announcements will be posted here on Friday, as well?
The show announcements will most likely be posted next week after we return to the office.
Thank you very much!!! ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Yardmaster on July 30, 2012, 08:24:31 AM
Manufacturer's hall opens on Friday.
I guess I was wrong...they can hold us over for torture for more than another whole week...
Yardmaster, are there any hints you can give us about what new locomotives are coming out? Any geared HO? :-\
aren't they all geared in HO? the rubber band drives want out with the stone age.....
As I'm sure you surmised, Jeff, WV was asking about geared logging power - maybe a Heisler or an improved Climax.
Are the "Li'l Big Haulers" new products? They're advertised on the back cover of the NMRA mag but I don't see them listed under product information here.
Congratulations- you found the first new product. You win a cookie!
I hope that we get more Sound Value steamers (like the Berk, and the ATSF, NYC, and SP 4-8-4's).
I agree. A sound value Berk would be nice and for the Santa Fe 4-8-4, I would like to see an affordable Santa Fe 3751 class engine.
Come on harriman mikados >.>
How about an American style roundhouse to go with the Bachmann turntable?
im hoping bachmann takes the E60 and makes the n.j. transit version and the amtrak E60M version
Is anyone on here able to make it out to the show? Would be nice to see some pics if so... :)
Check out Model Railroader website new products. F-7's with sound value and much more!
Any new HO steam? Anybody?
First Bachmann Release:
Electro-Motive Division DDA40X Centennial diesel locomotive. Union Pacific. Three road numbers. Features SoundTraxx Sound Value sound decoder. $259 each. October 2012. Ready-to-run.
Electro-Motive Division F7A and F7B diesel locomotives. Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe (warbonnet); New York Central (lightning stripe); Norfolk Southern; Southern Pacific (black widow); and Pennsylvania RR (single stripe). Die-cast metal chassis, separately applied windshield wipers, and Blomberg trucks. Features SoundTraxx Sound Value sound decoder. $169 each. December 2012. Ready-to-run. Bachmann
General Electric 44-ton diesel locomotive. New road numbers: Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe and Pennsylvania RR. With Digital Command Control. $97. September 2012. Ready-to-run. Bachmann
NO HO STEAM (AS OF YET)
N SCALE STEAM: Alco 2-6-0 steam locomotive. Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe; Boston & Maine; Canadian National; New York Central; Pennsylvania RR; and Union Pacific. Die-cast metal chassis and cylinders, metal valve gear and side rods, and light-emitting diode headlight and back-up light. With Digital Command Control for speed, direction, and lighting. $179. September 2012. Ready-to-run. Bachmann
O SCALE STEAM: Baldwin 2-4-4-2 articulated locomotive. Painted black but unlettered with steel or wood cab and with or without red windows and white stripes. Die-cast metal construction, light-emitting diode headlights, and choice of three stacks and headlights. With Digital Command Control decoder for speed, direction, and lighting (SoundTraxx 16-bit sound module sold separately, $119). $525. Ready-to-run. Bachmann
LARGE SCALE: Denver & Rio Grande Western class C-19 2-8-0 steam locomotive. 1:20.3 proportion. Denver & Rio Grande Western (Flying Grande lettering with short tender, "bumble bee" scheme with short tender, or Royal Gorge herald with long tender), Rio Grande Southern (sunrise herald with short tender), painted black but unlettered with short tender, and painted black but unlettered with red and white trim and long tender. Can motor; all-metal gearbox; printed-circuit board to accommodate direct current, Digital Command Control, or remote control operation; and two optical sensors for adjusting timing and count of steam chuffs. $1,575. October 2012. Ready-to-run. Bachmann, 215-533-1600
Large scale locomotives. Short Line RR 0-4-0 with tender ($129) and 0-4-0T ($99). Li'l Big Haulers. Bachmann, 215-533-1600
Doesn't look good for HO Steam...Oh well...
Is that 2-4-4-2 O scale/gauge, or On30?
The 2-4-4-2 is an On30 item.
Pictures can be seen in the article:
http://mrr.trains.com/en/News%20and%20Reviews/New%20Products/2012/08/2012%20National%20Train%20Show%20preliminary%20report.aspx (http://mrr.trains.com/en/News%20and%20Reviews/New%20Products/2012/08/2012%20National%20Train%20Show%20preliminary%20report.aspx)
I don't know if it was a mistake or not, but I saw the large scale C-19 at a show in the UK back in may...
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn64/hiesler/DSC02722.jpg)
Max
Well considering bachmann came out with 2 steamers in HO last year, we probably have a better chance expecting a new engine in 2013. Although I was kind of shocked it was all diesels across the board with even other manufacturers. Of course there's others I can't mention here that are coming out with a PRR consolidation and a USRA light and heavy pacific, so now we just have harrimans and other nifty steam to look forward to being released, the alco mogul and the EM-1 really shocked me as I wasn't expecting modern small power and a behemoth of an engine from bachmann though I have to say it paces the way for bachmann to make more heavy modern equipment. A DRGW L-131 would be good as for a while they were the largest steam power in existence yet only done in brass and qquite popular among modelers.
A Norfolk and western Z-1 2-6-6-2 would be perfect, you could cover 2 roads with that model the DRGW and N&W and save on tooling with the 2-6-6-2 chassis and the tender redesigned from the bachmann auxiliary tender. I'm shocked this hasn't been done yet.
And PRR K3's could be done with existing tooling and the N&W had these engines as well
Another one would be a Denver and Salt Lake 2-6-6-0 which would look good even on 18 inch radius and the DRGW owned these as well
DMIR Yellowstones have still yet to be done in diecast and Plastic, everyone is waiting for one of the manufacturers to finally take the dive, its just a matter of time IMO. Found it strange they chose the EM-1 instead....
WE NEED MORE WESTERN ENGINES IN HO
I found this. http://www.bachmanntrains.com/NMRA_2012.pdf (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/NMRA_2012.pdf)
High all
Is it just my imagination or are those dynamic break fans on the F-7's bigger than the other fan sizes ala F-9?
I know we can't always get what we want, but it is thoroughly disappointing to see that even older steam locomotives like the 4-6-0's or even the Lt. 4-8-2 didn't get a rerun.
I congratulate Bachmann on the On30 line development. They're cashing in on an aging Baby Booming generation who modeled HO but are losing the ability to handle the small trains and fell in love with the larger On30. The On30 gear is some really nice stuff!
Once again, I can hope that Bachmann will put out the Ventura County No. 2, Baldwin 2-6-2. But that will have to wait for the powers to be to see it would be winner.
I attempted to post this before, but apparently it didn't "take", so here it is again:
Words can't describe how truly disappointed I am...not only did Bachmann not develop one of the HO steam engines I was hoping for, they didn't develop ANY new steam engines. AT ALL. I guess they are all out to lunch in the steam development department. The only HO steam in the brochure was just previously released pieces with new road names/numbers. Wow. And while I'll probably end up buying one of the WM F7A's, I just wanted to add that just about every other model railroad company has also developed a version of the F7 this year, where there were NONE available this time last year. Talk about saturating the market...
I also found it was a shame that Yardmaster and other moderators didn't bother to share with those of us with hopes for new HO steam that there wouldn't be ANY. I can understand keeping new items under wraps as a "surprise", but what's the point of not telling faithful customers that they have been totally overlooked for the entire upcoming production year? It wouldn't have taken much for one of you to simply drop a line like "For those of you steam fans, unfortunately, we were unable to develop any new locomotives for 2012, but hopefully we can do better next year." Now what would that have taken so we didn't keep on the brink of our seats waiting for the announcement when there wasn't one? :'(
Does anyone know where I can find information for other companies new products? Of particular interest are Woodland Scenics and Walthers! Thanks! :)
Quote from: thewvnetwork on August 05, 2012, 06:55:39 PM
I attempted to post this before, but apparently it didn't "take", so here it is again:
Words can't describe how truly disappointed I am...not only did Bachmann not develop one of the steam engines I was hoping for, they didn't develop ANY new steam engines. AT ALL. I guess they are all out to lunch in the steam development department. The only HO steam in the brochure was just previously released pieces with new road names/numbers. Wow. And while I'll probably end up buying one of the WM F7A's, I just wanted to add that just about every other model railroad company has also developed a version of the F7 this year, where there were NONE available this time last year. Talk about saturating the market...
I also found it was a shame that Yardmaster and other moderators didn't bother to share with those of us with hopes for new HO steam that there wouldn't be ANY. I can understand keeping new items under wraps as a "surprise", but what's the point of not telling faithful customers that they have been totally overlooked for the entire upcoming production year? It wouldn't have taken much for one of you to simply drop a line like "For those of you steam fans, unfortunately, we were unable to develop any new locomotives for 2012, but hopefully we can do better next year." Now what would that have taken so we didn't keep on the brink of our seats waiting for the announcement when there wasn't one? :'(
Does anyone know where I can find information for other companies new products? Of particular interest are Woodland Scenics and Walthers! Thanks! :)
I agree, I was dissapointed very much in Bachmann pretty much coming out with nothing truly new in HO. I was so hopping for a Heisler but then they go and dissapoint so many people by coming out with nearly nothing new!
Quote from: beampaul7 on August 03, 2012, 12:59:05 PM
High all
Is it just my imagination or are those dynamic break fans on the F-7's bigger than the other fan sizes ala F-9?
You mean dynamic brake fans? Some "phases" of F-7's had 48" db fans like the F-9's.
"From June 1952, 48-inch dynamic brake fans began to be introduced; from October 1952, all dynamic-brake equipped locomotives had them." from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_F7
The ABBA set that demo'd on the N&W in 1952 had 48" db fans.