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Title: A Suggestion
Post by: ebtbob on August 06, 2007, 06:36:46 AM
Good Morning all,

      I know that the new product announcements are only a few days old but I found the enclosed pic and would suggest that the lead engine would be a nice fit to the On30 line.....
(http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictures/24531/Picture%203901a.jpg)
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: epeorus on August 06, 2007, 08:26:26 AM
I agree ... what I would really like to see is a good ten-wheeler!

Jim
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: C.P.R.R. Manager on August 06, 2007, 10:09:49 AM
Excellent suggestion, Bob, count me in.  I have seen some very nice 10-wheelers bashed from the Mogul, and I may give that a try some day.  It's certainly going to be easier to bash the Mogul than any of the newer, mostly metal locos.

Which raises this question: Has Bachmann considered making more "Silver Series" type locomotives, similar to the Mogul?  I'm sure there are manufacturing and money factors, but I would think the Christmas train set and Collector market would be ready for something new.  Not to mention the On30 bashers.  There is a rumor on this board that Bachmann has sold over a million Moguls over the years...  If that's true, it would certainly point to a demand for more lower-cost plastic locos.
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: James Thomas on August 06, 2007, 12:15:34 PM
I would think the Mogul sold so well because it was the first rtr On30 engine available and was sold in train sets -- not because it was Silver Series, plastic, or cheap.  It was bashed because there was nothing else.

The Spectrum Shay, IMO, is what caused major interest and growth in On30.  It drew a lot of people into On30, and into model railroading. 

While the new 4-4-0 is nice, it won't have the same impact the Shay did.  It is not going to convert railroaders to On30 or draw new railroaders into the hobby.  It is time for another big impact loco; something like a 2-4-4-2 w/tender or an 0-6-6-0.  These would get people excited about On30 and could lead to more new products from other sources.

Let's not go backwards and re-introduce Silver Series products.
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: Tomcat on August 06, 2007, 12:29:37 PM
Bob, definitely YES for the Engine on the Picture,...
Would be a beauty to have, no question!!!!

But additionally: A Shay, we all want a more modern Shay, don´t we...?
Bachmann owes all the Loggers outside there a Heisler or a Shay....

Cheers, Tom
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: Royce Wilson on August 06, 2007, 12:35:28 PM
Can you identify the ten wheeler in the photo?

any additional photos?

Hmmmmmm Bachmann HO ten wheeler bashed....maybe............Royce ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: ksivils on August 06, 2007, 01:16:24 PM
The 10 wheeler pictured is former Alaska Railroad (it once had a narrow gauge division), U.S. Army (it was obtained to run on the White Pass during WW II when the Army operated the White Pass & Yukon Route).  It was owned by a private individual for some time, then sold to the Huckleberry Railroad in Flint, Michigan.

It is a beautiful locomotive.  The people at Huckleberry just recently painted it to its green U.S. Army colors. 

This is also the operation that owns and operates the K-27 464 which they have also done an incredible restoration job on.  My wife hails from Jackson, MI, so whenever we visit in the summer I take a ride at the Huckleberry operation.  Very friendly people as well.
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: Dusten Barefoot on August 06, 2007, 01:33:09 PM
I wonder if the 10-Wheeler that will be coming out in the future will have some otions, Cabs, Cap stacks, piolets and back heads. I know the B-mann wont make 2 types of 10-Wheelers nor 2 types of mogules, but hey, I can be wrong.

Dusten Barefoot
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: ossygobbin on August 06, 2007, 04:24:14 PM


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Bob, definitely YES for the Engine on the Picture,...
Would be a beauty to have, no question!!!!

But additionally: A Shay, we all want a more modern Shay, don´t we...?
Bachmann owes all the Loggers outside there a Heisler or a Shay....

Cheers, Tom

i dont want a modern shay, SRRL no 24 would be nice tho
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: shayman on August 06, 2007, 07:27:17 PM
 :-* :-* :-* :-*
We do need a newer shay! Shays rule my woods. Still double heading the logs out.

(http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/catalog/image/products/82496.jpg)

Now if I could get Harry to make it into On30. Yea! Dream on!
Happy Railroading.
      shayman
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: ollie on August 07, 2007, 07:09:24 AM
That is a very nice ten wheeler... Yes I would like to see that in my RFW roster...
great photo by the way!!! 8)
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: aussie30inch on August 08, 2007, 02:18:44 AM
ebtbob

Great suggestion and a gaad ten wheel choice for On30. What about it Bachmann?


aussie30inch

 
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: kenruof on August 08, 2007, 08:58:35 AM
Love it Bob, I would buy more that one!!!

Your friend
Ken
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: Dusten Barefoot on August 08, 2007, 01:38:12 PM
Not as good lookin' as Tweetsie ;D
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: max (uk) on August 08, 2007, 01:50:41 PM
Nice engine there ebtbob, I like the snowplow. Id love one of them.

Mind you im modeling logging so shayman has a point for a nice 'beffey' shay (55 ton 3 truck shay. Oh Yeh) would be brill. My 14 ton shay looks out of place next to my climax and 2-8-0.



   
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: Ken on August 08, 2007, 02:04:25 PM
  As a suggestion for a three truck SHAY, the last 2½ footer built 08-30-1929.
SN 3341, Class 60-3, for Braden Copper Co (Chile) as #20.
  Braden operated 10-two truck & 6-three truck SHAY's.

  Downside is, I would need to build a string of Braden 20ft ore gondolas<G>.

  Ken
    GWN
   

 
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: amdaylight on August 08, 2007, 07:30:41 PM
Count me in for three of four of those, that is a nice looking loco.

Andre :) :)
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: ksivils on August 08, 2007, 11:58:54 PM
Where can one find a photo of these 30 inch gauge 3 truck shays?
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: Ken on August 09, 2007, 12:39:36 AM
 kevin

    Shay locomotives.com

  SN 1771  # 22    2 truck             SN 2753  #10  3 truck
       2256       4                                  2801    12
       2257      16                                 2876    14
       2420      17                                 2877    15
       2462      18                                 3013    19
       2520      19                                 3341    20
       2592      20
       2873      16
       2874      17
       2875      18
       
     Not all have photos, but 3341 has photos of both sides.


     Ken
       GWN
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: Hamish K on August 09, 2007, 12:45:46 AM
kevin

URL is http://www.shaylocomotives.com/data/dataframe.htm (http://www.shaylocomotives.com/data/dataframe.htm)

Go to number (as in above post) for specific loco.

The 3 truck Braden locos were the largest 30 inch gauge Shays made, of course there were similar sized locos in 3 foot and other gauges. It would be a good choice.

Personally I would have little use for the 4-6-0 that introduced this thread.

Hamish
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: Ken on August 09, 2007, 09:38:45 AM

  Hamish
  thanks for the sending the  URL.

  Kevin/etal

  I made a mess of the SN/engine number list

  Corrected listing

     2 Truck                                      3 Truck

SN 1771  # 22                       SN 2753    10
       2256       4                            2801    12
       2257       5                            2876    14
       2420       6                            2877    15
       2462       7                           3013     19
       2520       8                           3341     20
       2592       9
       2873     16
       2874     17
       2875     18


   Ken
     GWN
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: Jim Goodridge on August 09, 2007, 01:30:50 PM
The Canadian Collieries Rwy needs three of the ten wheelers to go with the consolidations.  The new 4-4-0 looks nice but doesn't fit with our operations.  I really like the snowplow on the 4-6-0.  In fact it looks so good we may have to move our coal mines from Vancouver Island to places further north.
Best Regards
Jim
Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: Ken on August 10, 2007, 02:31:17 AM
 Jim
  Moving farther North, mean's you would be looking at the Coal field around Smither's,  the mine supplied the pulp mill at Watson Island (Port Edward). Worked in the Pulp  Mill 67 to 70, by that time coal
was no longer used and the mine's had shutdown.
   Orginal boilers (1952) had been converted to oil firing when I
started there in 1967, coal bunkers were still in place though!.

 
  Ken Clark
     GWN

Title: Re: A Suggestion
Post by: finderskeepers on August 10, 2007, 03:55:24 AM
That one I would have bought, I'm going to take a pass on the 4-4-0. 'Course I'm still waiting for the heisler and the larger more modern Shay. I currently have the 2-6-0, 2-8-0, and climax, as well as the MMI K-27, K-28 engines. Please make the heisler the same size as the climax!