HO:
Locomotives:
Oliver
Rosie
Whiff
Stanley
Victor
Hiro
Rolling Stock:
Toad
Rocky
Hector
Flatbed with Logs
Flatbed with Black Diesel and Fuel Drums
Flying Kipper Van
CGI Milk Tanker
CGI Fuel Tanker
Figures and Vehicles:
Alicia Botti
The Duke and Duchess of Boxford
Lady Hatt
Trevor
Bulgy
Kevin
Buildings:
Sodor Steamworks
Operating Watermill
Town Hall
The Duke and Duchess of Boxford's Summerhouse
Re-releases:
Express Coaches
Well Wagon
Tar Tanker
is this really happening or you want it to because that many things in one year is very doubtful but I do agree with you on Hiro but the engine they should make next I think is Stephney or Murdoch
Total cost of that list: £200,005,687,555,666.57 and a half
Where does that figure come from?
Sorry. that list were my predictions for next year.
It's fine they were just joking but I do see some of those coming out but definitely not all of them
Quote from: thomasj219 on March 21, 2013, 05:16:30 PM
Where does that figure come from?
I believe he was joking....
I thought it would've been better to start making predictions later, but what the heck. Here's mine:
HO ENGINES:
Oliver (with moving eyes)
BoCo (with moving eyes)
HO ROLLING STOCK:
Toad the brakevan
Red branchline coaches
LARGE:
Edward (with moving eyes)
Troublesome Truck #3
I think it's highly unrealistic to expect more than 3-4 new engines and rolling stock a year now, that's how the trend has been for the last few.
Quote from: mrrailroad on March 21, 2013, 01:01:25 PM
is this really happening or you want it to because that many things in one year is very doubtful but I do agree with you on Hiro but the engine they should make next I think is Stephney or Murdoch
Are Murdoch or Stepney really on much anymore? I haven't seen all episodes/seasons of the show, but doesn't Bachmann usualy put out engines that are currently seen on the show/movies? Or at least were featured alot in earlier years?
I wish we would get another big year like 2011 (I think) when they put out the 2 sets of twins, Knapford, Tidmouth Sheds, Lighthouse, Windmill and a few other things. Maybee like:
Engines:
Diesel 10
Den
Dart
Rolling Stock:
Rocky
Red branchline coaches
Buildings/Accesories:
Steamworks
Dieselworks
Watermill
For 2014 I predict...
HO Scale:
For sure:
BoCo or Oliver
What I would like to see:
Stepney
the red branchline coaches
the brown CCT van
Figured :)
Are we really doing this?
I sort of thought we'd agreed to leave the predictions until much later in the year.
Sodor Perfection' is right. It's a bit early to start thinking up ideas for more engines/accessories in the range just yet, don't you think? I mean, Duck and the Twins haven't come out yet. I'd like to see what people think of them before we think of any more to add.
Having said that, I think, because of the newer characters being released, The Iron twins and Jeremy here, I think we'll see someone from one of the newer series join the range soon. Not sure of who that would be, but a newer character definitely.
If not, then I see Oliver and Toad coming to the range. Oliver being a classic character, and the last of the numbered engines( aside Harvey, Belle, and the newer engines..), and Toad being the companion that would be bought up quick by everyone who wants to own the 'Western Pair' together. That and they have the moulding for his prototype, that shouldn't be too hard to make.
I'm not sure if I see BoCo or Daisy any time soon, but the former I'd like a lot.
We'd most likely get a new truck or van after TT#4, maybe one would be returned to production? Like that blue van.
Everyone else's LS ideas seem alright to me. I see Diesel or Eddie coming up next myself, if the range continues to sell well.
Annd... that's it, really.
Quote from: Sodor Perfection on March 23, 2013, 03:49:10 PM
Are we really doing this?
I sort of thought we'd agreed to leave the predictions until much later in the year.
We never "agreed" on anything. If you don't agree with what someone is saying or doing, please keep that opinion to yourself. People post what they would like to see all the time it's not unusual at all. There's nothing wrong with it. Plus, in all honesty, not one user should EVER be in the place to criticize someone for posting a list of what they want to see in the future.
Calm yourself, I was just saying.
Bear in mind that decisions for next years range are being or have been decided by now, so it's good to post suggestions/predictions early. (Some decisions can take a number of years to be finalised.)
Personally, next year my predictions are as follows:
HO:
Oliver
OR
Stanley
OR
Rosie
Red Coaches
AND/OR
Toad
LS
Edward
Henrietta
I really wouldn't hope for too much, but if they made those I'd be happy.
What I WANT next year:
HO
Oliver
Stepney
Red Coaches
Toad
LS
Edward
Henrietta
(I don't collect LS, but if I did that's what I'd be wishing for.)
BoCo is one that I would want to see in HO scale. I know Bachmann is capable of designing wheel-trucks like what BoCo has. To give him an eye mechanism, can he be all-wheel-drive while both trucks can swivel? Sure, he hasn't been on the show for so long. But he was a great classic character. At least he'd be another diesel for the range.
If Bachmann made BoCo, people can do remakes of The Diseasel, Wrong Road, Edward's Exploit, Thomas and the Special Letter, One Good Turn, etc.
Out of all these, which one do YOU think Bachmann could announce next year?:
•Daisy
•BoCo
•Oliver
•Stepney
•Arthur
•Murdoch
If Bachmann were to make Daisy, since her buffer beam is really low, she may not be able to have a front coupler, but hopefully, at least a rear coupler, so you can couple her to a milk tanker.
If Bachmann were to make Murdoch, in order to get around turns as well as everyone else, the 2 wheels in the very middle of his 10 driving wheels would have to be flangeless.
Quote from: TrainFan97 on April 06, 2013, 06:08:12 PM
Out of all these, which one do YOU think Bachmann could announce next year?:
•Daisy Possibly, but not a big character nowadays.
•BoCo Same as Above, but I feel BoCo has a better chance than Daisy.
•Oliver Yes, prooably the most chance.
•Stepney Second best chance.
•Arthur Too complicated (engine, and drive wheel)
•Murdoch Maybe, but too big.
Why do we even have a thread like this? We exausted this topic 4 years ago...
Fresh crews Shawn, fresh crews. They want a bit of the action that we've seen in the last 4 years. Its only fair, sense they're late to the party I guess ;) (and wow its been a short 4 years at that)
Ha, late to the party! I was earlier than You! Lol. I was just giving my opinion, no need to jeer.
Quote from: jettrainfan on April 06, 2013, 10:13:21 PM
Fresh crews Shawn, fresh crews. They want a bit of the action that we've seen in the last 4 years. Its only fair, sense they're late to the party I guess ;) (and wow its been a short 4 years at that)
I know! Hero of the Rails is 4 years old in the fall.
What do people think of fergus being made?
that would be cool and I think it would be easy to find that kind of model
What do you think about Harvey being made
Has already been made.
Quote from: mrrailroad on April 10, 2013, 07:01:53 PM
What do you think about Harvey being made
Quote from: Fergusfan17 on April 10, 2013, 07:25:03 PM
Has already been made.
Bachmann has never announced or made Harvey.
Sorry, I meant scratch built.
What is the number one engine evryone wants? maybe bachmann will listen to us!
Can't really say for sure but I think it's Oliver and it's not really that simple. We have wish list threads, we just have to see what happens. At the end of the day they are a company.
One thing for sure is that they'll definitely be making characters from classic series since well it's what any nostalgic kids (like us) want right? After seeing how Duck was announced (as well as D&D, B&B, Terence, etc.), we practically went nuts. With the exception of Jeremy, they never made any other characters from the new/CGI series (though the choice in that was a little odd, but oh well).
Here's who I would expect from Bachmann 2014, and to an extent 2015, since nowadays, announcements sometimes stretch over two years.
Engines first.
Oliver: I see the chances of engines like BoCo, Stepney, and Daisy shrinking quickly, but I still see Oliver having a flickering hope. The main reason being his association with Duck and the fact that out of all the S1-4 engines left to be made that appeared in Season 5-7, he has more story appearances than Stepney, BoCo and Daisy, and is the most popular behind Duck. He's also often associated with Arry and Bert in merchandise (Nitrogen Studios even placed the Oliver model next to Arry and Bert, coincidentally enough). Toad is also still an easy-to-make character, and would fit with Oliver and Scruffy perfectly. At this point, Bachmann doesn't have much to lose as Oliver is one of the last engines that the older fan base is hoping for Bachmann to make.
(http://images.wikia.com/ttte/images/5/5c/Escape61.png)
Paxton: He may be a newer engine, but it's not like thats stopped Bachmann before (see: Spencer, Emily). To add, ever since Blue Mountain Mystery, Paxton has quickly become a fan favorite, critically praised among the Thomas fanbase as one of the best new additions to the show, a character that even old nostalgic fans are openly welcoming. The best part is, like Arry and Bert, Bachmann already has the tooling to make Paxton. All they would have to do is repaint Diesels body and change the face. Paxton would be a solid seller at a minimal cost.
(http://images.wikia.com/ttte/images/8/8a/GordonRunsDry9.png)
Charlie: He may not be popular with the fans, but when it comes to new CGI characters, none have had more speaking roles and episode appearances than Charlie (Victor probably has more but he's narrow gauge, so I'll disregard him). I'll admit I do have a bit of bias towards his design, it has kitbashing potential. To add, since Bachmann announced Jeremy, Charlie doesn't seem like a far stretch to appeal to the newer Thomas fans entering the modeling hobby.
(http://images.wikia.com/ttte/images/d/d0/RacetotheRescue48.png)
Now onto rolling stock.
Red Coaches: I'm honestly surprised Bachmann has not made these yet. They're pretty much a repaint of Annie and Clarabel, minus the brake coach, which even that is just a change of the back, not the whole coach. They've been requested by the fans for a long time too. Makes one wonder what bigger reason there might be holding Bachmann back from making these. They've been featured in the show a lot, so their number of appearances isn't a problem either. There are kits of the coaches prototype, including the brake coach, but they're absurdly expensive to where no Thomas fans to date have used them for the purpose of modeling Sodors coaches.
(http://images.wikia.com/ttte/images/9/9b/PingyPongyPickUp19.png)
Toad: Not much to say here that hasn't already been said. He would be a great match for Toad, and the tooling already exists in the Mainline range. Only thing that would really need to be done is add Toads face and his lanterns.
(http://images.wikia.com/ttte/images/5/5f/Escape62.png)
Misc: There are more wagons that could be made from Bachmanns Mainline tooling such as the hopper car, or custom tooling wagons such as the Scrap Car, but considering Bachmann announced only Troublesome Truck 4 this year, I imagine Bachmann is waiting a few years to dry out the current wagons, tankers and vans in the range. Personal preference, I hope Troublesome Truck 4 is an HO/OO version of the Tomix van:
(http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig00/10009695a8.jpg)
I have a gut feeling it might be a salt van though, which wouldn't be a bad choice, just as long as it matches Troublesome Truck 1 and 2.
I also think I could see a Mavis or Diesel set being released in the near future.
Discontinued Engines: In the near future, I can see a possibilities of engines being discontinued. Potential candidates to me feel like Spencer, Bill, Ben, Salty, and Mavis.
I think that's all I got.
Quote from: Sparks on May 04, 2013, 04:46:05 AM
Here's who I would expect from Bachmann 2014, and to an extent 2015, since nowadays, announcements sometimes stretch over two years.
Engines first.
Oliver: I see the chances of engines like BoCo, Stepney, and Daisy shrinking quickly, but I still see Oliver having a flickering hope. The main reason being his association with Duck and the fact that out of all the S1-4 engines left to be made that appeared in Season 5-7, he has more story appearances than Stepney, BoCo and Daisy, and is the most popular behind Duck. He's also often associated with Arry and Bert in merchandise (Nitrogen Studios even placed the Oliver model next to Arry and Bert, coincidentally enough). Toad is also still an easy-to-make character, and would fit with Oliver and Scruffy perfectly. At this point, Bachmann doesn't have much to lose as Oliver is one of the last engines that the older fan base is hoping for Bachmann to make.
(http://images.wikia.com/ttte/images/5/5c/Escape61.png)
Paxton: He may be a newer engine, but it's not like thats stopped Bachmann before (see: Spencer, Emily). To add, ever since Blue Mountain Mystery, Paxton has quickly become a fan favorite, critically praised among the Thomas fanbase as one of the best new additions to the show, a character that even old nostalgic fans are openly welcoming. The best part is, like Arry and Bert, Bachmann already has the tooling to make Paxton. All they would have to do is repaint Diesels body and change the face. Paxton would be a solid seller at a minimal cost.
(http://images.wikia.com/ttte/images/8/8a/GordonRunsDry9.png)
Charlie: He may not be popular with the fans, but when it comes to new CGI characters, none have had more speaking roles and episode appearances than Charlie (Victor probably has more but he's narrow gauge, so I'll disregard him). I'll admit I do have a bit of bias towards his design, it has kitbashing potential. To add, since Bachmann announced Jeremy, Charlie doesn't seem like a far stretch to appeal to the newer Thomas fans entering the modeling hobby.
(http://images.wikia.com/ttte/images/d/d0/RacetotheRescue48.png)
Now onto rolling stock.
Red Coaches: I'm honestly surprised Bachmann has not made these yet. They're pretty much a repaint of Annie and Clarabel, minus the brake coach, which even that is just a change of the back, not the whole coach. They've been requested by the fans for a long time too. Makes one wonder what bigger reason there might be holding Bachmann back from making these. They've been featured in the show a lot, so their number of appearances isn't a problem either. There are kits of the coaches prototype, including the brake coach, but they're absurdly expensive to where no Thomas fans to date have used them for the purpose of modeling Sodors coaches.
(http://images.wikia.com/ttte/images/9/9b/PingyPongyPickUp19.png)
Toad: Not much to say here that hasn't already been said. He would be a great match for Toad, and the tooling already exists in the Mainline range. Only thing that would really need to be done is add Toads face and his lanterns.
(http://images.wikia.com/ttte/images/5/5f/Escape62.png)
Misc: There are more wagons that could be made from Bachmanns Mainline tooling such as the hopper car, or custom tooling wagons such as the Scrap Car, but considering Bachmann announced only Troublesome Truck 4 this year, I imagine Bachmann is waiting a few years to dry out the current wagons, tankers and vans in the range. Personal preference, I hope Troublesome Truck 4 is an HO/OO version of the Tomix van:
(http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig00/10009695a8.jpg)
I have a gut feeling it might be a salt van though, which wouldn't be a bad choice, just as long as it matches Troublesome Truck 1 and 2.
I also think I could see a Mavis or Diesel set being released in the near future.
Discontinued Engines: In the near future, I can see a possibilities of engines being discontinued. Potential candidates to me feel like Spencer, Bill, Ben, Salty, and Mavis.
I think that's all I got.
Bachmann cannot discontinue the locomotives because of the motors and electrics inside them.
Quote from: seanrail on May 04, 2013, 06:06:14 AM
Bachmann cannot discontinue the locomotives because of the motors and electrics inside them.
Sure they can. If a product doesn't sell well after a while, if at all, then I don't see why they wouldn't. If a product is a poor seller or not too many people are buying them, then Bachmann discontinuing a locomotive isn't a horrible idea at all. If anything, it'd be a smart idea. They could save money and use it on new tooling for a different locomotive (IE discontinuing Spencer and introducing Oliver later).
In terms of what Sparks posted, I really think he hit the nail with the hammer. However, I would take Charlie out of the picture and add Trevor:
(http://images.wikia.com/ttte/images/8/87/ThomasandTrevor23.png)
There are three reasons why I feel this way:
1. Bachmann generally do one locomotive a year per range (except when they're doing twins). So Bachmann doing Oliver one year and doing Paxton the next actually sounds extremely convincing if not very likely. First Bachmann did Donald and Douglas who were delayed, then Diesel joined the range the next year, resulting to both being out around the same time in 2011. With Duck being delayed from last year and the newly announced 'Arry and Bert models being on the way, something tells me that they will be released right around the same time too. With Oliver being inevitable due to recent additions and Paxton being easy to make, I can see them coming out in the near future!
2. It's not often Bachmann do non-rail characters, however, when they do it's usually unexpected. This could be said for the time when Bachmann announced Terence and for this year when Jeremy joined the range. The former was welcome, but it doesn't seem like too many people are fond of the latter (which frankly I can see why). Unlike Jeremy, Trevor actually has the right demand from fans, and would easily be a great seller. If anything, I think Trevor is the only non-rail character who has some serious demand.
3. Jeremy is too new of a character. He is one of many newer characters who was made just so fans can go buy his toys and playsets. He's not exactly a popular character with the older and arguably newer fans, on top of not appearing on the show regularly. Yet at the same time, despite being an older character, Terence isn't exactly popular amongst the younger audience of Thomas and hasn't appeared in quite some time either. Trevor is popular with both old and new Thomas fans, providing some middle ground in that respect.
In terms of discontinued locomotives, out of all the ones Sparks posted I can easily see Spencer being discontinued, but I don't know about the others just yet.
maybe if the Sound fitted Thomas engine proves successful then the original normal Thomas would discontinued and that faith could befall the other engines when they have their own sound fitted versions.
Spencer has appear on TV so he should not be discontinued, especially as although The 'H' Company has re-released their version of Spencer, it is only for a limited time.
If the Sound Fitted Thomas does prove successful, my predictions for future sound fitted Thomas Products would include:
Sound Fitted Percy
Sound Fitted Thomas Set
Sound Fitted Giggling Troublesome Truck
Quote from: ModelTrainFan538 on May 05, 2013, 12:41:19 PM
I'm changing my list, as an influence of Sparks' recent list. However for HO I'm going to mention both what I see happening in 2014 and 2015 due to production we've seen in recent years. I know it may seem rather rash to do so, but at the same time I don't see anything wrong with thinking ahead in that respect. Especially when you consider Duck was one of two new additions that was announced in HO last year and still hasn't been released yet.
HO (2014/2015): * - What I can see being announced in 2015
Oliver - Highest demanded engine, not to mention would be a very logical choice to follow up with after Duck. Personally, out of all the classic era characters left (locomotive wise), I think Oliver is the only one who has a chance of being made. That and not to sound negative, but seeing as how Duck, Donald, and Douglas were delayed I can see Oliver being delayed too.
Paxton* - Paxton's become pretty popular since his role in Blue Mountain Mystery, and I'm not going to pretend any longer that he's a character who I would certainly be interested in seeing Bachmann pull off! Not to mention he sounds like a great possibility since he shares the exact same tooling as Diesel, 'Arry, and Bert. The only reason why I'm not mentioning Sidney is just because Sidney only appeared for...three or four seconds in Day of the Diesels with no character development. I imagine once his season 17 episode airs and he proves to be likable then that will change.
Toad - Can't do Oliver without Toad.
Red Coaches* - The most appropriate replacement I can think of for the express coaches being discontinued. They've appeared on the show regularly, and I think Bachmann needs to expand their variety of passenger cars.
Trevor - Biggest demand with non-rail characters and would look amazing on any model railroad!
Speed-activated sound Percy - If the sales for the speed-activated Thomas go well, I imagine Bachmann would probably continue that line by adding Percy next year.
Speed-activated sound James* - Seems inevitable enough that following Thomas and (most likely) Percy in that range, that James would be the next runner up.
I would have added more variety, but in terms of each of categories (engine, rolling stock, accessory, etc.) I feel like Bachmann would only do one in each category a year like they have in the past three years. The only exception would be when Bachmann produces twins like 'Arry and Bert or Donald and Douglas.
As for large scale I'm only going to do just 2014 since the large scale line is a lot more consistent in terms of getting new products available by the end of the year they're announced.
Edward - Seems like the engine fans want to see the most now in large scale, and I can understand! His HO model was amazing and I imagine a large scale one would look fantastic!
Henrietta - A very good possibility due to Toby being added to the range!
Red open wagon - Wagon repaint, much like the blue wagon that was added this year.
Cream tank - Tanker repaint, just like the raspberry syrup tank for this year.
Hope they paint James' wheels, smoke box sides and tender axles black on the sound fitted version and also add a dummy coupling hook on the sound fitted Percy.
I imagine a speed-based Percy and James will be made based on how well the Thomas version sells. I'm hoping its an all new tooling, rather than just a sound chip crammed into the normal Thomas. Thomas is long due a makeover to match his CGI look with a motor that can haul longer trains. If this was done with Percy and James too, I imagine their paint and minor proportion issues would be fixed, since they already are in the Large Scale models.
If you support the company and it's products, you will continue to get more products from that company. When Bachmann introduced Bill and Ben, they became successful models resulting Bachmann to make Diesel. 'Arry and Bert then joined the range due to the success of the Bachmann Diesel (and of course the tooling that was available). The exact same thing can be said for Duck following the success of the Donald and Douglas models. I imagine that the speed-activated sound Thomas will be a huge seller, due to the fact that this was something fans have wanted for quite some time. Sound in locomotives is becoming very popular in the hobby of model railroading, and is really bringing the models to life more than ever. It's also another unique way of getting younger fans involved. I can't say for certain what would happen in the future, but if Thomas goes well I imagine that they will continue to add one new engine after another, which would be none other than Percy and/or James.
It's exactly why I can see Bachmann doing Oliver very soon as I can't imagine why the Bachmann Duck wouldn't be a huge success since it's a model that fans had been waiting for what felt like well over five years.
Quote from: seanrail on May 05, 2013, 04:11:43 PM
Quote from: ModelTrainFan538 on May 05, 2013, 12:41:19 PM
I'm changing my list, as an influence of Sparks' recent list. However for HO I'm going to mention both what I see happening in 2014 and 2015 due to production we've seen in recent years. I know it may seem rather rash to do so, but at the same time I don't see anything wrong with thinking ahead in that respect. Especially when you consider Duck was one of two new additions that was announced in HO last year and still hasn't been released yet.
HO (2014/2015): * - What I can see being announced in 2015
Oliver - Highest demanded engine, not to mention would be a very logical choice to follow up with after Duck. Personally, out of all the classic era characters left (locomotive wise), I think Oliver is the only one who has a chance of being made. That and not to sound negative, but seeing as how Duck, Donald, and Douglas were delayed I can see Oliver being delayed too.
Paxton* - Paxton's become pretty popular since his role in Blue Mountain Mystery, and I'm not going to pretend any longer that he's a character who I would certainly be interested in seeing Bachmann pull off! Not to mention he sounds like a great possibility since he shares the exact same tooling as Diesel, 'Arry, and Bert. The only reason why I'm not mentioning Sidney is just because Sidney only appeared for...three or four seconds in Day of the Diesels with no character development. I imagine once his season 17 episode airs and he proves to be likable then that will change.
Toad - Can't do Oliver without Toad.
Red Coaches* - The most appropriate replacement I can think of for the express coaches being discontinued. They've appeared on the show regularly, and I think Bachmann needs to expand their variety of passenger cars.
Trevor - Biggest demand with non-rail characters and would look amazing on any model railroad!
Speed-activated sound Percy - If the sales for the speed-activated Thomas go well, I imagine Bachmann would probably continue that line by adding Percy next year.
Speed-activated sound James* - Seems inevitable enough that following Thomas and (most likely) Percy in that range, that James would be the next runner up.
I would have added more variety, but in terms of each of categories (engine, rolling stock, accessory, etc.) I feel like Bachmann would only do one in each category a year like they have in the past three years. The only exception would be when Bachmann produces twins like 'Arry and Bert or Donald and Douglas.
As for large scale I'm only going to do just 2014 since the large scale line is a lot more consistent in terms of getting new products available by the end of the year they're announced.
Edward - Seems like the engine fans want to see the most now in large scale, and I can understand! His HO model was amazing and I imagine a large scale one would look fantastic!
Henrietta - A very good possibility due to Toby being added to the range!
Red open wagon - Wagon repaint, much like the blue wagon that was added this year.
Cream tank - Tanker repaint, just like the raspberry syrup tank for this year.
Hope they paint James' wheels, smoke box sides and tender axles black on the sound fitted version and also add a dummy coupling hook on the back of the sound fitted Percy.
If the Thomas sound activated model will be successful that is (hopefully they fix the little minor errors they had on Thomas, Percy, and James when Bachmann first released them).
I they announced Oliver, Toad & Trevor next year, I would be ecstatic. ;D
So I updated my post slightly, it's been over a month since I last updated it, but I wanted to talk about an idea I thought of just the other day.
Winston the Track-inspection Car
(http://images.wikia.com/ttte/images/3/38/BlueMountainMystery112.png)
So why do I think Winston is a good possibility?
After seeing Bachmann announce Jeremy, I think that this could say something about how open Bachmann would be in regards to introducing different vehicles. But more importantly, he adds good variety! Winston being a car on rails, essentially, is a different twist to the Thomas line, yet at the same time it's not that unusual coming from Bachmann. Bachmann have their "Maintenance of way" series with different vehicles that were made to run on tracks. So the idea of Winston being made doesn't seem as strange as one would think. Despite riding on rails though, being like the rest of the other vehicles, I don't think a Bachmann Winston would include moving eyes.
Why do I think he would be a good seller? Well Winston is perfect for any modeler! He doesn't require any rolling stock or anything of the sort to go along with him. He's literally an addition you can just take out and run on any layout. Ideal for beginners who are into the hobby and it would look nice on any layout. Plus if modelers are working on their layouts and need a model to test the track power, they could use the model of Winston to see how could the power is on their layouts... that is his job after all as a track inspection car. ;)
(http://images.wikia.com/ttte/images/6/64/WaywardWinston15.png)
But more importantly for Thomas fans, it introduces the idea of a to-scale HO Sir Topham Hatt figure. The one that's in the HO line currently is ridiculously out of scale. I'm surprised it's listed in the HO line when it should be under large scale. With Winston, I could see Bachmann giving him a little driver who would be no one other than Sir Topham Hatt, as other toy ranges that have made Winston have included a little Sir Topham Hatt figure to make it look like he is driving Winston around. This will not only look more realistic, but would also be a really nice addition to those who would be interested in having a to-scale Sir Topham Hatt figure.
So despite Winston being newer, he not only wouldn't be that expensive for Bachmann to put together and sell, but he would also sell very popularly as he's proven to be liked by older and newer fans alike, much like Paxton. Either way, along with Trevor, I think Winston would make another good addition as a future character to join Bachmann in the near future as far as vehicles go.
Feel free to give me feedback if anyone thinks this is a good idea or if you can see this happening too. Either way, I'm interested in hearing any thoughts. :)
Is Winston too small?
As small as a narrow gauge engine.
Well yeah, Winston is small, but again so are highrailers in general when you compare them to trains. So a Bachmann Winston being small is a given, hence why I said I don't see one having moving eyes just because he'd be that small.
(http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/images/HO_Scale/46201.jpg)
Again, the idea of a Bachmann Winston doesn't sound all that unusual to me just because Bachmann have made similar vehicles before outside of Thomas. :)
Though I wouldn't see him being made until at least a couple of years later. After all, he was recently introduced, so kids wouldn't have any familiarization with him just yet, but the idea of having him in the range is quite interesting indeed.
I wouldn't mind Charlie being made, SkarloeyFan01 made him out of a Hornby LBSCR Class A1 Terrier, it turned out preaty good.
Just purely.based on fact they already have.a model.to work from I.can see Paxton being made. I honesty hope they hold off for few years but I can see it lol. I want Oliver for 2014 toad, ls Henrietta but this very moment I'm happy duck is here
I would like to see
Engines:
Oliver
Paxton
Winston
Staford?
Bear?
Rolling stock:
Red coaches
Express coaches
Ventilated van
Giggling troublesome truck
Spiteful brakevan(that can collapse)
Non-rail:
Sir Topham Hatt's car
Trevor
Bulgy
Buildings:
Steam works
Diesel works
Knapford station expansion pack
LS
Edward
I do doubt that all of this would be made in one year and maybe some not at all but gradually would make sense.
PS: if Oliver and toad are announced, what if they could be sold together? ;D
Bear won't be made though due to only being a RWS character. A collapsing brake van won't happen either, but admittedly the idea of the spiteful brake van being made would be a nice easy move for Bachmann to make. If they were to make it though, it would be in one piece. Don't know about the steamworks or dieselworks happening either.
Regardless, I really like the lineup, I'm glad I'm not the only one who wouldn't mind seeing Bachmann make Winston! I imagine if they did Oliver and Toad they would be sold separately... However if they were announced I won't dismiss the idea of them being in a train set together with other rolling stock. :)
I hope that Oliver and Toad will be made and released next year (and I'm sure everyone else does, too), but we'll have to wait and see.
I thought the idea of a collapsable brakevan would be interesting, but it would be too expensive to produce ( I based the idea on a lionel item i bought at a show that also collapses), I agree with you ModelTrainFan538 that winston would be a great model to produce, and the addition of toad would make add another brakevan to the range ;D, I'm also surprised that nobody suggested stafford at all, but who knows?
OLIVER PLEASE!
Maybe Fergus?
Quote from: sodorfan on August 15, 2013, 10:12:55 PM
I'm also surprised that nobody suggested stafford at all, but who knows?
I don't think a Stafford model will sell that well, when compared to Winston. Stafford doesn't really have any character development going for him. I find his personality to be pretty dull and his episodes aren't exactly memorable. Realistically I don't think it will happen anytime soon, but if he continues to appear regularly for another season or two, then I'd expect him to be a more likely candidate.
I wouldn't mind seeing him personally, I'd rather see him over the logging locos, Belle, or Rosie for that matter. But there are a lot more characters that I feel are a much higher priority.
Yeah, I would seem stafford wouldn't sell that well, that's why I put a question mark next to his name as well as bear's. but I agree with Winston and Rosie being introduced, they have plenty of character and haven't been made commercially as scale models yet, and as you mentioned earlier, it gives us...A SCALE SIR TOPHAM HATT!!! ;D
If Fergus were to be made, Bachmann would have a complicated time trying to insert the moving eye mechanisms into him, seeing that he's narrow in size compared to the other tank engines in the range. Now unless if they make him as an exception (kind of like Winston), probably no guarantee that they'll make him, but seeing that Jeremy is scheduled to come next year, we'll see for sure.
And for characters like Winston or Rosie, I prefer them being released at a later time, seeing that there are other characters that have yet to be made from the classic series. Don't get me wrong, I wish they're released, but again, seeing that Winston was released only a year ago, so kids wouldn't have a full liking to him just yet.
I don't see Rosie happening any time soon, mainly because there's more popular engines waiting to be made such as Oliver. To add, Bachmann hasn't even branched outside of Season 1-7 engines yet, so I could see Stepney and BoCo being made before Rosie. Who knows, with Duck, Bill and Bens return in Season 17, they could be due soon in Season 18. If Bachmann does branch outside of Season 1-7, I could see Hiro, Charlie, and Paxton made before Rosie, since all of them have had more roles than Rosie, whose only starred in two episodes.
Either way, I'm betting on a "Speed and Sound Percy" in 2014.
I agree with sparks on the sound Percy, but I don't know about boco or daisy, it would be nice, but they haven't been seen for years, but then again if bear was released by the other company, then there's a chance of them being released by bachmann. :)
Quote from: sodorfan on August 19, 2013, 05:52:25 PM
I agree with sparks on the sound Percy, but I don't know about boco or daisy, it would be nice, but they haven't been seen for years, but then again if bear was released by the other company, then there's a chance of them being released. :)
Hornby's odds of doing BoCo or Daisy aren't exactly better than Bachmann's, especially with the lack of new products that only come out once every two or three years.
As for Bachmann doing them, I find both of them to be unlikely. Out of the two, I find BoCo to have a better shot because he has had more appearances and actually has pulled trains in the television series. Daisy never pulled anything (including one milk wagon, which she refused). Plus Daisy has been absent in a lot of different ranges in general, especially ones from Japan, so I find her to be out of the question. BoCo's odds are better, but honestly not by much, due to not appearing since season 5. Daisy hasn't appeared since season 4, minus her non-speaking role in Calling All Engines, which really doesn't redeem her chances of being made at this point. If either of them were to be announced, I'd be completely open to it, but for now I don't see how they are going to happen. Like everyone else has been saying, as far as classics go, Oliver has the best chance by a landslide and I think at this point he's a hard bullet for Bachmann to dodge.
I also agree with Sparks' post on Rosie. I honestly do not see the big fascination a lot of people have with Rosie. To me, she's just another minor character who appears on the show every now and again like Stanley or Whiff. She simply comes in, speaks once or twice a season with no huge role, and that's pretty much it. I agree with what everyone else has said as far as classic characters being made before her, I feel they'd be much better sellers too.
I hope BoCo would return in season 18.
Well, we'd have to see what the writing team currently does at the moment. I mean after all, Donald, Douglas, Oliver, Trevor, etc. would still be the highly anticipated characters to return in the series. I'm all for BoCo returning, just hoping they set a character like him up in the right premise of a story, like back in the classic series.
Been a while since someone posted on this thread, and I've thought recently about what large scale could do next year, so I'm just gonna show my predictions for what I could see happening next year. Even though I don't own large scale, it's fun to speculate, which is why we're all here. :)
Engines (One, not both):
Edward - I can't name a single person who wouldn't want to see Edward appear in the large scale line. One of the main engines from the steam team, Simple design as far tender engines go, and popular with older and newer fans alike.
Mavis - To be honest, I can see Mavis as a better possibility than Edward. Not only would she go along nicely with Toby, but she would also be a lot more of an easier design for Bachmann to put together. She is also a pretty iconic character to the series, despite her current appearances being rather brief.
Rolling stock (two of the following):
Henrietta - Based on how long it took for us to get Henrietta in HO after we got Toby, I feel like Bachmann might take a lot of time before announcing Henrietta in the range. Especially since I imagine tooling for her would be expensive. Despite this, I feel that it would be almost ideal, if not inevitable to join the range as far as future rolling stock goes.
Mail car - This is probably the largest piece of rolling stock I could see coming into the range for the time being. It's used regularly throughout the show and has remained iconic to the show for years.
Red open wagon and Cream tanker - Let's be honest, these two are a given based on the rolling stock that we got this year. An easy repaint is something that Bachmann has almost never dodged in both HO and large scale lines.
I can see Henrietta being made later on since like how Emily's coaches came first (especially like an unexpected surprise), while she herself came later in the HO line. Same with Toby, except reversed (him coming in first and then Henrietta coming in later)...
Seeing as polls are becoming more apparent and the year 2013 is really flying by, I figured I would update my 2014 predictions list one last time before the announcements, at least as far as HO goes. Large scale remains the exact same as the post I left earlier.
Engines (One, or possibly two of them):
Oliver - By far the highest demand when it comes to new engines to join the range, and would tie in with some of Bachmann's recent additions like Duck, Donald and Douglas since classic characters usually do the best in Bachmann's range. Plus, he holds a lot of potential and would be a great seller and addition for the HO line. On top of that, he's making a return to the show, which alone indicates how popular he will be in the future with older and newer fans alike.
Stepney - Even though Bachmann has been announcing one engine a year, I wouldn't put it past Bachmann to announce both Oliver and Stepney for two reasons. One, 'Arry and Bert are being released and they would be an ideal pair since they both want to scrap Oliver and Stepney, as mentioned in character bios and shown with Stepney Stepney Gets Lost. The second is because whenever Oliver and Stepney come into a range or appearances they usually appear around the same time. This could be said for when Hornby and Take Along made them, as well as their returns in season 12. Plus, with the hype going on with Stepney coming out in take-n-play along with the fact he may return to the show soon (around the same time as Oliver, in fact), it does give me hope that we may see him join the range soon.
Paxton - Although I can't see this one happening next year directly, I've never known Bachmann to avoid a simple repaint from a previous tooling, and Paxton is no exception. I'd say Sidney too, but Sidney barely has had any development from him, whereas Paxton has proven to be a likable character.
Rolling stock (one possibly two of them):
1a. Toad - A given if Oliver is announced, especially since Bachmann has their mainline tooling to model him after.
1b. Red coaches - I'm still surprised Bachmann haven't done the red coaches yet as I imagine they wouldn't be too difficult for Bachmann to put together. Plus with their high demand, they've appeared regularly throughout the series since the second season and have been pulled by a wide variety of different characters.
2. Flat car with a new load - I can see Bachmann bringing back the same flat car they used for their paint drum load which was recently discontinued but only bringing in a new load to go with it. I could see them doing logs or pipes or even the Chinese Dragon. Why the Chinese Dragon is because it has remained somewhat iconic to the show on top of being popular with older and newer fans alike. Personally out of the three I mentioned I would like to see a log load the most just because logs are more of an iconic load for flat cars on the show.
3. Revisions - It's been a while since Bachmann has updated any of their rolling stock. I imagine that they would update their milk and fuel tankers, but I would hope that they can get around to updating their brake van to make it look like the one in the large scale line.
Road character:
1. Trevor - Out of all the road characters, Trevor is the only one that has serious demand. I think one reason why Bachmann is hesitant on Trevor is his detailing and small parts. However, I imagine if they figure out an appropriate time to announce and make a model of him I think they will. Especially considering how amazing he would look in the range.
Other:
Speed-Activated Sound Percy - If the Speed-activated sound Thomas goes well, or if they want to add any other addition to that line I don't see why they wouldn't add Percy to the range too. James is also a good possibility too, but that again would really depend on how much further Bachmann wants to take the speed-activated sound range.
Quote from: Chaz on November 16, 2013, 01:44:35 AM
Seeing as polls are becoming more apparent and the year 2013 is really flying by, I figured I would update my 2014 predictions list one last time before the announcements, at least as far as HO goes. Large scale remains the exact same as the post I left earlier.
Engines (only one of them):
Oliver - By far the highest demand when it comes to new engines to join the range, and would tie in with some of Bachmann's recent additions like Duck, Donald and Douglas since classic characters usually do the best in Bachmann's range. Plus, he holds a lot of potential and would be a great seller and addition for the HO line.
Hiro - If there is any other engine who I could see happening besides Oliver, it would be Hiro just because Hiro has proven to be a popular internationally as well as being one of the few newer characters to be popular with older and newer fans alike.
Paxton - Although I can't see this one happening next year directly, I've never known Bachmann to avoid a simple repaint from a previous tooling, and Paxton is no exception. I'd say Sidney too, but Sidney barely has had any development from him, whereas Paxton has proven to be a likable character.
Rolling stock (one possibly two of them):
1a. Toad - A given if Oliver is announced, especially since Bachmann has their mainline tooling to model him after.
1b. Red coaches - I'm still surprised Bachmann haven't done the red coaches yet as I imagine they wouldn't be too difficult for Bachmann to put together. Plus with their high demand, they've appeared regularly throughout the series since the second season and have been pulled by a wide variety of different characters.
2. Flat car with a new load - I can see Bachmann bringing back the same flat car they used for their paint drum load which was recently discontinued but only bringing in a new load to go with it. I could see them doing logs or pipes or even the Chinese Dragon. Why the Chinese Dragon is because it has remained somewhat iconic to the show on top of being popular with older and newer fans alike. Personally out of the three I mentioned I would like to see a log load the most just because logs are more of an iconic load for flat cars on the show.
3. Revisions - It's been a while since Bachmann has updated any of their rolling stock. I imagine that they would update their milk and fuel tankers, but I would hope that they can get around to updating their brake van to make it look like the one in the large scale line.
Road characters (only one of them):
1. Trevor - Out of all the road characters, Trevor is the only one that has serious demand. I think one reason why Bachmann is hesitant on Trevor is his detailing and small parts. However, I imagine if they figure out an appropriate time to announce and make a model of him I think they will. Especially considering how amazing he would look in the range.
2. Bulgy - If there is any other road character I can see besides Trevor, it would be Bulgy just because he has a very basic shape for Bachmann to make. Not to mention, he would look very nice with Duck and would go along great with a future Oliver model too!
Other:
Speed-Activated Sound Percy - If the Speed-activated sound Thomas goes well, or if they want to add any other addition to that line I don't see why they wouldn't add Percy to the range too. James is also a good possibility too, but that again would really depend on how much further Bachmann wants to take the speed-activated sound range.
what about item you want to see re-released other than the flat bed?
I wouldn't really consider the flat bed idea so much of a "re-release" just because if it includes a different load, it's a new addition to the line altogether. At least that's the way I see it.
I guess if I could see anything making a comeback it would be Gordon's coaches just because they are still used regularly throughout the show, and there is clearly enough demand for them to come back from fans. I can see why fans would want them back just because without those coaches there really isn't so much for larger engines like Gordon or Henry to pull with the current lineup of rolling stock in the range. It goes along the same lines why Bachmann should do the red coaches at some point soon just because the HO line needs a larger variety of coaches.
I'm more on seeing Large Scale Edward to come out.
He's just the right size, just like James. Many fans are going to want to see him.
I have two of Spencer's coaches for my layout. If Spencer's brake coach were to be released at least then it could be a complete express for anyone else who just uses Spencer's coaches.
Quote from: Chaz on November 16, 2013, 06:49:07 PM
I wouldn't really consider the flat bed idea so much of a "re-release" just because if it includes a different load, it's a new addition to the line altogether. At least that's the way I see it.
I guess if I could see anything making a comeback it would be Gordon's coaches just because they are still used regularly throughout the show, and there is clearly enough demand for them to come back from fans. I can see why fans would want them back just because without those coaches there really isn't so much for larger engines like Gordon or Henry to pull with the current lineup of rolling stock in the range. It goes along the same lines why Bachmann should do the red coaches at some point soon just because the HO line needs a larger variety of coaches.
in my mind, the lack of express coaches is more of a problem for Gordon than for Henry as the latter mainly pulls trucks more than coaches. Gordon, being an express engine, needs his express coaches back.
Oliver The Great Western Engine, Stepney The Bluebell Engine, The Red Coaches (Brake & Composite Coaches), Spencer's Special Brake Coach, Rocky The Crane, Troublesome Truck #5, Toad The Brakevan, The Spiteful Brakevan, Trevor The Traction Engine, and Bulgy The Doubledecker Bus All I Want To See Released On HO Scale In 2014. :)
Quote from: Chaz on November 16, 2013, 06:49:07 PM
I wouldn't really consider the flat bed idea so much of a "re-release" just because if it includes a different load, it's a new addition to the line altogether. At least that's the way I see it.
I guess if I could see anything making a comeback it would be Gordon's coaches just because they are still used regularly throughout the show, and there is clearly enough demand for them to come back from fans. I can see why fans would want them back just because without those coaches there really isn't so much for larger engines like Gordon or Henry to pull with the current lineup of rolling stock in the range. It goes along the same lines why Bachmann should do the red coaches at some point soon just because the HO line needs a larger variety of coaches.
I have checked the H company website and their Gordon,s coaches looks as if they're discontinuing because the composite coach is no longer on the website and the brake coach is out of stock. Gordon's coaches must be the major comeback for 2014 into the Bachmann Thomas line in HO scale.
Gordon's coaches comeback promotion for 2014
76050 Gordon's Express Composite Coach
76051 Gordon's Express Brake Coach
76052 Gordon's Express Dining Coach
RRP: $28.50 each
I'm finding them producing a dining car to be unlikely, but I have to admit I think that if anything could potentially make a comeback anytime soon would be Gordon's express coaches.
Well guys this is it, 2014. I feel somewhat optimistic for this year, given that last year didn't feel like such a strong year for Bachmann. While the announcements themselves generally received mixed to negative responses, most of the newly announced products did not make it to the shelves or have photos taken which is disappointing on its own too. That being said, manufacturing and production for new products for the Thomas line I imagine can be more and more challenging as the years go by. The fact that Bachmann is managing to work on a variety of products as it is, plus new ones for this years announcements really shows that they're trying, which is certainly better than not making any new additions at all.
When all is said and done, this is a year we have been waiting for. With the announcements being a month and a half away we can only hope for the best. :)
Well said Chaz :)
We will see what bachmann has to offer for Thomas in 2014 at the New York toy fair on February 16th to 19th or when their web store re-opens after their inventory today.
They'll be announced around the time of the Toy Fair, or at least when the 2014 catalog is viewable online.
I'm heading up to the World's Greatest Hobby on Tour tomorrow in my neck of the woods so maybe I'll see something interesting Thomas related... ;)
Quote from: PasqualeCS96 on January 04, 2014, 03:48:00 PM
I'm heading up to the World's Greatest Hobby on Tour tomorrow in my neck of the woods so maybe I'll see something interesting Thomas related... ;)
I was there today. The only new things were the rolling stock for the G gauge line. They didn't even have the new toby on display. I was surprised that all of the big companies had small layouts. Bachmann had 3 layouts. The Thomas and Friends layout wasn't there but there was a wall of Thomas/Chuggington.No date for Arry and Bert just yet or for any new Thomas stuff yet.
Quote from: Rickenbacker 325 on January 04, 2014, 07:06:49 PM
Quote from: PasqualeCS96 on January 04, 2014, 03:48:00 PM
I'm heading up to the World's Greatest Hobby on Tour tomorrow in my neck of the woods so maybe I'll see something interesting Thomas related... ;)
I was there today. The only new things were the rolling stock for the G gauge line. They didn't even have the new toby on display. I was surprised that all of the big companies had small layouts. Bachmann had 3 layouts. The Thomas and Friends layout wasn't there but there was a wall of Thomas/Chuggington.No date for Arry and Bert just yet or for any new Thomas stuff yet.
I know, I was actually surprised the Thomas layout wasn't there. However seeing the Chuggington models in person was interesting.
Quote from: seanrail on January 04, 2014, 07:57:04 AM
We will see what bachmann has to offer for Thomas in 2014 at the New York toy fair on February 16th to 19th or when their web store re-opens after their inventory today.
online shop reopened, but no model images of Arry, Bert, Jeremy, Sound Fitted Thomas or Troublesome Truck #4. This is absolutely scandalous. You would think that Arry and Bert would have model image ready by now since they are being reprinted from diesel and it also should not take long for them to choose a wagon tooling for TT #4.
I think we should at least acknowledge and appreciate that the Large Scale Toby was announced AND released in less than a year, especially with the quality it is.
I have a feeling we'll be seeing most HO stuff pretty soon anyway. It's usually about this long before we see announced wagons popping up.
Whilst I agree that updates would be nice; Bachmann is a big company with a lot going on and it's not always possible for someone to keep tabs on one thing.
That said, even a little word saying 'oh, it's a salt wagon with a CGI face' (for example) would be appreciated after this long I feel.... Just builds up the hype a little more I think.
So, 2014. Final predictions?
Oliver and Toad.
At a push; the red coaches.
Oliver,
Toad
Red coaches
Flat car with different loads
HO:
Oliver
Toad
LS:
Edward
HO
Oliver
Toad
LS
Edward
(Yes I realize that's what Dino said, but I fully agree.)
For HO:
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(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120610195755/protagonist/images/7/7b/Trevor_traction_engine_at_the_steam_traction_rallies.jpg)
A LS Edward and perhaps Henrietta to go along with Toby seems possible to me.
Oliver, Toad, Red Coaches, and at least a road vehicle like Trevor for the HO range. After all, if anything, this year could be like when Donald, Douglas, and Diesel were released in the same year, even when some of them were announced earlier... Hopefully, this might be the case with Arry and Bert, hoooooopefuuuuuuullyyyyy.....
For Large Scale, I'd hope for either Edward, Mavis, or Salty to be released (considering we'd need some diesels to appear sooner or later...), then hopefully Henrietta to accompany Toby, some closed vans like the vent/salt vans, since all we see now are open wagons and tankers.
Quote from: PasqualeCS96 on January 08, 2014, 05:13:08 PM
For HO:
(http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/ZuMKTrFM_Fk/mqdefault.jpg)
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120610195755/protagonist/images/7/7b/Trevor_traction_engine_at_the_steam_traction_rallies.jpg)
A LS Edward and perhaps Henrietta to go along with Toby seems possible to me.
Just these five alone would make a perfect lineup this year for me! No more or less then that. :)
Quote from: Chaz on January 08, 2014, 08:03:13 PM
Quote from: PasqualeCS96 on January 08, 2014, 05:13:08 PM
For HO:
(http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/ZuMKTrFM_Fk/mqdefault.jpg)
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120610195755/protagonist/images/7/7b/Trevor_traction_engine_at_the_steam_traction_rallies.jpg)
A LS Edward and perhaps Henrietta to go along with Toby seems possible to me.
Just these five alone would make a perfect lineup this year for me! No more or less then that. :)
same here i would greatly appreciate these five
Quote from: shining time on January 09, 2014, 08:27:17 AM
Quote from: Chaz on January 08, 2014, 08:03:13 PM
Quote from: PasqualeCS96 on January 08, 2014, 05:13:08 PM
For HO:
(http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/ZuMKTrFM_Fk/mqdefault.jpg)
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120610195755/protagonist/images/7/7b/Trevor_traction_engine_at_the_steam_traction_rallies.jpg)
A LS Edward and perhaps Henrietta to go along with Toby seems possible to me.
Just these five alone would make a perfect lineup this year for me! No more or less then that. :)
same here i would greatly appreciate these five
Same. I wouldnt complain. My wallet would, but I wouldnt ;P
Will the return of Oliver have any impact on this? Like better chance?
Seeing that he returned in CGI, his chances are pretty high, alongside Toad if that happened for sure! :D
I had a feeling someone would post something like this once Oliver was revealed into CGI, so here are my thoughts.
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If Oliver were to be announced this year I think his recent return may not have as much of an effect on whether or not a model of him will be made or not. He was already the most probable addition to join the range next, as speculated by most fans. Some argued that appearance could be a factor with why Oliver won't happen, but it looks like the joke is on them on that one. :) However, on a much more serious note I don't think it plays as much of a role, I think if the character has the right demand and potential they'd happen for that very reason. I still have no doubt we will see him and Toad sooner or later in the range at this point.
Now if someone like Stepney, who gets occasional demand but hasn't had a major role since the fifth season were to return in the CGI series, then I would say Stepney's chances have skyrocketed.
There is one more thing I would like to put on the table speaking of their return. If they do announce Oliver and Toad, I think that we will see them made based off their CGI form. As much as I prefer the model forms of both of these characters, I have a feeling that we will see them appear as they would in their new current form in the show. Personally I don't think it's a bad thing, since the only flaws I'd have with that would be the black footplate on Oliver and the new faces.
However, I wouldn't give up on them just yet, perhaps production has already started on these two (if they really are happening), and maybe we will have them out by the end of this year in their classic form. Who knows. Either way, whether they happen or not, I would honestly be grateful just to have models of these characters in the first place since Bachmann goes through a lot to make these models for us which I think admirable enough for Bachmann as a business for listening to their fanbase on numerous occasions, as indicated by previous announcements.
Quote from: Chaz on January 11, 2014, 02:06:04 PM
I had a feeling someone would post something like this once Oliver was revealed into CGI, so here are my thoughts.
(http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140111104630/ttte/images/6/68/TaleoftheBrave1.png)
If Oliver were to be announced this year I think his recent return may not have as much of an effect on whether or not a model of him will be made or not. He was already the most probable addition to join the range next, as speculated by most fans. Some argued that appearance could be a factor with why Oliver won't happen, but it looks like the joke is on them on that one. :) However, on a much more serious note I don't think it plays as much of a role, I think if the character has the right demand and potential they'd happen for that very reason. I still have no doubt we will see him and Toad sooner or later in the range at this point.
Now if someone like Stepney, who gets occasional demand but hasn't had a major role since the fifth season were to return in the CGI series, then I would say Stepney's chances have skyrocketed.
There is one more thing I would like to put on the table speaking of their return. If they do announce Oliver and Toad, I think that we will see them made based off their CGI form. As much as I prefer the model forms of both of these characters, I have a feeling that we will see them appear as they would in their new current form in the show. Personally I don't think it's a bad thing, since the only flaws I'd have with that would be the black footplate on Oliver and the new faces.
However, I wouldn't give up on them just yet, perhaps production has already started on these two (if they really are happening), and maybe we will have them out by the end of this year in their classic form. Who knows. Either way, whether they happen or not, I would honestly be grateful just to have models of these characters in the first place since Bachmann goes through a lot to make these models for us which I think admirable enough for Bachmann as a business for listening to their fanbase on numerous occasions, as indicated by previous announcements.
I must say CGI Oliver likes great from the given picture. If Oliver is made, I actually doubt he will have a CGI face considering what we have seen with Duck, Donald, Douglas, Bill, and Ben who all did have CGI faces in season 12 but were not given to by Bachmann. Same goes for a black footplate on Oliver if Bachman made him since Duck's is black in the show but white on the model. I know we can't see Oliver's face at the moment with this picture but I'll assume it will look like it did back in season 12.
I think it is a good prediction. I think they should make for ho scale: flying scotsman with 2 tenders in a set with 3 coaches, Oliver and toad in a set with S.C. Ruffey and troublesome trucks, bluebell, stepney, blue bill & Ben cgi, Paxton, boco, diesel 261, D199, splodge, diesel 10, lady, Dennis, billy, Charlie, victor, kevin, green arrow, Trevor, Horrid lorries, fergus, Neville, hector, den and dart, scruff, Derek and rickety and Fred pelhay.
LS: Edward, Henry and the flying kipper, Gordon and express coaches and Fred and rickety.
Emergency HO scale: rocky, belle, Flynn and butch (cgi version)
IMO
Quote from: PasqualeCS96 on January 11, 2014, 08:14:23 PM
I must say CGI Oliver likes great from the given picture. If Oliver is made, I actually doubt he will have a CGI face considering what we have seen with Duck, Donald, Douglas, Bill, and Ben who all did have CGI faces in season 12 but were not given to by Bachmann. Same goes for a black footplate on Oliver if Bachman made him since Duck's is black in the show but white on the model. I know we can't see Oliver's face at the moment with this picture but I'll assume it will look like it did back in season 12.
Well again, who knows, it is something I would love to be proven wrong on since I would prefer the model version of the character myself. Though the white footplates are usually something Bachmann have been pretty good about taking care of when it comes to making models so I am not as concerned over that personally. The lamp would be a nice addition, I personally wouldn't mind the lamp as I could add a light to the model to flash on when the model runs. I've done that with extra Thomas, James, Percy, and Toby models I have and the result was very satisfying. :)
One thing is for sure though, Bachmann will not disappoint us. :)
Quote from: Chaz on January 17, 2014, 02:29:05 AM
Quote from: PasqualeCS96 on January 11, 2014, 08:14:23 PM
I must say CGI Oliver likes great from the given picture. If Oliver is made, I actually doubt he will have a CGI face considering what we have seen with Duck, Donald, Douglas, Bill, and Ben who all did have CGI faces in season 12 but were not given to by Bachmann. Same goes for a black footplate on Oliver if Bachman made him since Duck's is black in the show but white on the model. I know we can't see Oliver's face at the moment with this picture but I'll assume it will look like it did back in season 12.
Well again, who knows, it is something I would love to be proven wrong on since I would prefer the model version of the character myself. Though the white footplates are usually something Bachmann have been pretty good about taking care of when it comes to making models so I am not as concerned over that personally. The lamp would be a nice addition, I personally wouldn't mind the lamp as I could add a light to the model to flash on when the model runs. I've done that with extra Thomas, James, Percy, and Toby models I have and the result was very satisfying. :)
Besides, with Oliver returning in Tale of the Brave, I highly doubt they'd give him a CGI face just yet seeing that we haven't even seen him since Season 12, just like with what they did with Duck last year. This'll be very interesting for sure if they do indeed choose Oliver (+ Toad, since it'll be a nice addition, and easy to make). On top of that, if they did release them both, I can smell some remakes on YouTube eventually, especially with S.C.Ruffey kekeke XD
This is what I would like to see for 2014:
Engines:
1. Oliver
2. Boco
3. Daisy
4. Diesel 10
5. Paxton
6. Sidney
7. The Diesel Class 40
8. Arthur
Rolling Stock
1. Toad (if Oliver is mentioned)
2. The Red Branch Line Coaches
3. Reintroduced Tar Wagon
4. Troublesome Truck 5
5. Reintroduced Well Wagon
6. Reintroduced Salt Wagon
7. Reintroduced Cattle Wagon
8. Reintroduced 6 Ton Container Wagon
9. Flat car with paint drums
10. Reintroduced Gordon's Composite Coach
11. Reintroduced Gordon's Brake Coach
12. Reintroduced R F Wagon
13. CGI Milk Tanker
14. CGI Sodor Fuel Tanker
15. Troublesome Truck 6
16. Scrap Wagons
17. Season 1 Troublesome Truck
Large Scale:
Engines:
1. Edward
Rolling Stock:
1. Henrietta
2. Salt Wagon
3. Ventilated Van
4. Cream Tanker
5. Red Open Wagon
6. Cattle Wagon
7. Troublesome Truck 3
8. Troublesome Truck 4
You know I just read the first post and I heard sodor steam works ummmm yeah the thing is that if you really want that my suggestion is you build it your self because it would be a whole lot cheaper then waiting for a set from Bachmann even if they did make it(highly doubtful of that) they would more or less put it on the market for a good I don't know Maybe about 400 dollars in American dollars so quite literally you could build the whole thing from scratch. I know you are probably wondering why I say 400 is because the huge sliding thing (don't know what it is called) and the small turntable inside and if they do it they would have to make victor then here comes Narrow gauge thomas and Friends that is why they would not build it or if they did 400 easy. If anybody disagrees with me let me know please I would like to know
bachmann should make bachmann thomas & friends model, Diesel-10 splatter, dodge, paxon, sydney, & a few others i can't think of yet. :)
This is what I want for Bachmann Thomas & friends HO models for 2014-2015
Locomotives:
Oliver
Rosie
Whiff
Stanley
Victor
Hiro
NON-CGI Diesel-10 (With Movible Claw)
Splatter
Dodge
Paxton
Sydney
Rolling Stock:
Toad
Rocky
Hector
Flatbed with Logs
Flatbed with Black Diesel and Fuel Drums
Flying Kipper Van
CGI Milk Tanker
CGI Fuel Tanker
Red Mainline Coaches
Figures and Vehicles:
Alicia Botti
The Duke and Duchess of Boxford
Lady Hatt
Jim Coil
Trevor
Bulgy
Kevin
Bulstrode the Barge (With Movible Load)
Buildings:
Sodor Steamworks
Operating Watermill
Town Hall
The Duke and Duchess of Boxford's Summerhouse
Sodor Dieselworks
Re-releases:
Express Coaches
Well Wagon
Tar Tanker
Quote from: Rollin Mayham on January 24, 2014, 12:04:22 AM
You know I just read the first post and I heard sodor steam works ummmm yeah the thing is that if you really want that my suggestion is you build it your self because it would be a whole lot cheaper then waiting for a set from Bachmann even if they did make it(highly doubtful of that) they would more or less put it on the market for a good I don't know Maybe about 400 dollars in American dollars so quite literally you could build the whole thing from scratch. I know you are probably wondering why I say 400 is because the huge sliding thing (don't know what it is called) and the small turntable inside and if they do it they would have to make victor then here comes Narrow gauge thomas and Friends that is why they would not build it or if they did 400 easy. If anybody disagrees with me let me know please I would like to know
That "sliding thing" is called a transfer table, at least if you're referring to the thing outside the Steamworks with the dual-gauge tracks.
Now then, back to the topic on hand: I can see Oliver, but not the other characters. Why? Well for starters, let's start with Victor. He's narrow gauge, and Bachmann never make the narrow gauge engines since it would end up having to rescale the models a tad higher than, say N scale for example, originally was. Then for Diesel 10, do you think Bachmann would make a character that has to have an extra expensive addition? Just that alone could be expensive than what an average model would normally cost. Splatter and Dodge only showed up in the movie, which doesn't exactly make them that popular seeing that they barely had much personality outside of being "Tweedledee and Tweedledum." The rest of the engines barely had any screen time, which is really sad seeing that they have great potential, but is wasted as years pass by (with Rosie having so much cameo appearances back in Season 17, and that's it....). Plus they'd obviously have to get through all of the other characters first that showed up in Seasons 2-7, seeing that the newest characters Bachmann made went up to Salty, Emily, and Spencer (Seasons 6 to 7 respectively), not to mention that's what the nostalgic fans would want as well (like BoCo or Oliver. I want to see them too!). And in order for the characters that were mentioned to be even released they'd have to be A: released a few years later after the other characters were completed (finish up the classic characters so that they can then focus on the next generation of characters) or B: they'd have to show up enough to warrant a release (as in not just show up in the background all season, like Hiro in S16, Stanley in S14 & S16 or Rosie in S17). I'm not saying they won't be released, but at least when time passes on, they'll become iconic when they have a strong enough footing to be recognized by the public, as if they were on par with RWS characters.
Btw, is it just me or have we gotten some confirmation about a certain release of the Ironworks Twins (even with a pic of Jeremy, as well as a few locations/buildings on Sodor)?
http://www.virtualpressoffice.com/detail.do?contentId=1483379&showId=3045