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This is a memory thing....and I am not sure I have it correct...but...a few years ago... I THINK ...Bachmann announced that they were going to produced a one of a kind engine that had two trucks and each powered by its own cylinders.  There was a major outcry and the announcement was withdrawn.  I think that the rail truck was manufactured in its place.  I think there was a picture of the engine shown on this site....does anyone recall?  If a picture of such and engine does exist, I would enjoy seeing it.  It look somewhat like a Heisler but with cylinders on each truck.  Did such a critter exist?  Thank you.

Bob:

Yes they did. And after a lot of why are you doing that engine, it was dropped.  I'm not sure, but I believe is was a Vulcan(?), 0-4-4-0T.   

Chuck

I don't remember a Vulcan, but some time back they announced a GE 45 tonner, which was never made:

Here is the list:

81295n   ATSF   None   N/A   ~ Loco   GE 45 ton, ATSF   N      A   Never made
81296n   PRR   None   N/A   ~ Loco   GE 45 ton, PRR   N      A   Never made
81297n   B&O   None   N/A   ~ Loco   GE 45 ton, B&O   N      A   Never made
81298n   None   12   N/A   ~ Loco   GE 45 ton, Bumble-Bee   N      A   Never made
81299n   None   None   N/A   ~ Loco   GE 45 ton, undecorated   N      A   Never made

For some reason I cannot find the date it was announced, Maybe Wade Colyer has it or remembers it.

 Yes, Bachmann had proposed producing a Vulcan 0-4-4-0; unfortunately, being a very unusual prototype owned by NO railroads popular with railfans, it was quickly derided  >:( by those who wanted something more conventional (especially Colorado narrow gauge prototypes).  As soon as it was announced, it quickly acquired the nickname "Lenny",  ::) after Leonard Nimoy of Star Trek fame, who played a rather well-known "Vulcan"  ;D in both the TV series & movies.  To me, it was a fascinating prototype even though exceedingly rare; I was disappointed when it was cancelled.   :-\  Think I was "Lenny's" only fan!   ::)  Unfortunately, he neither lived long nor prospered!  :D

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Tom Lapointe

Hi:

The 6 Vulcan engines, 81994-81999, were listed as 2005 models but they were cancelled in November of 2004 due to lack of intrest. They listed at $799 retail.

Wade

Thanks so much for the replies.....i most certainly thought it was a neat looking engine....and would have purchased one.  i have did a google search and could not find a pic of the model or the prototype...anyone have one to share?   Thanks
bpb

I never saw the Bachmann Vulcan, but a Vulcan 0-4-4-0 was produced (imported) by Atlas in HO scale.....

 ;)  Google is your friend -  8) just put in "Vulcan Duplex":.  :)

Here's a couple of image links.  PFM apparently produced a brass HO one, both painted & unpainted.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/diesel_fireman2001/Brass/VulcanDuplex2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://brassbackshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t%3D771%26sid%3D58805001cee9bab7095e537e5c209cbd&h=418&w=799&sz=81&tbnid=oLm4uwzC64z-TM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=172&zoom=1&usg=__GbCCdkijFC7k9rIr3l4tdLWJV5Y=&docid=c_ShNn39UZ3_oM&sa=X&ei=P7U0UvL4O5be4APl7IHwDQ&ved=0CDMQ9QEwAQ&dur=341 (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/diesel_fireman2001/Brass/VulcanDuplex2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://brassbackshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t%3D771%26sid%3D58805001cee9bab7095e537e5c209cbd&h=418&w=799&sz=81&tbnid=oLm4uwzC64z-TM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=172&zoom=1&usg=__GbCCdkijFC7k9rIr3l4tdLWJV5Y=&docid=c_ShNn39UZ3_oM&sa=X&ei=P7U0UvL4O5be4APl7IHwDQ&ved=0CDMQ9QEwAQ&dur=341)

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.brasstrains.com/images/products/016024/016024-2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.brasstrains.com/classic/Product/Detail/016024/HO-PFM-Vulcan-Duplex-1980-Run&h=1200&w=1600&sz=1952&tbnid=1NcT62YsbC3MPM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=127&zoom=1&usg=__BdRRG518yyb0qqdSh2mMyEMB5gE=&docid=Yoc6avJNLn-F3M&sa=X&ei=P7U0UvL4O5be4APl7IHwDQ&ved=0CDYQ9QEwAg&dur=357 (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.brasstrains.com/images/products/016024/016024-2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.brasstrains.com/classic/Product/Detail/016024/HO-PFM-Vulcan-Duplex-1980-Run&h=1200&w=1600&sz=1952&tbnid=1NcT62YsbC3MPM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=127&zoom=1&usg=__BdRRG518yyb0qqdSh2mMyEMB5gE=&docid=Yoc6avJNLn-F3M&sa=X&ei=P7U0UvL4O5be4APl7IHwDQ&ved=0CDYQ9QEwAg&dur=357)


http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.brasstrains.com/images/products/032262/DSC07971.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.brasstrains.com/classic/Product/Detail/032262/HO-PFM-Vulcan-50-Ton-Duplex-1967-Run-Painted&h=1199&w=1600&sz=1432&tbnid=3W9RtHWoNg7OfM:&tbnh=94&tbnw=126&zoom=1&usg=__f7G6RLe5IaQcZDhwnbBX-bpiJ88=&docid=Muz45vGit4ONKM&sa=X&ei=P7U0UvL4O5be4APl7IHwDQ&ved=0CDkQ9QEwAw&dur=350 (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.brasstrains.com/images/products/032262/DSC07971.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.brasstrains.com/classic/Product/Detail/032262/HO-PFM-Vulcan-50-Ton-Duplex-1967-Run-Painted&h=1199&w=1600&sz=1432&tbnid=3W9RtHWoNg7OfM:&tbnh=94&tbnw=126&zoom=1&usg=__f7G6RLe5IaQcZDhwnbBX-bpiJ88=&docid=Muz45vGit4ONKM&sa=X&ei=P7U0UvL4O5be4APl7IHwDQ&ved=0CDkQ9QEwAw&dur=350)

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://narrowmind.railfan.net/Vulcan_Duplex.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f%3D1%26t%3D5809&h=829&w=635&sz=178&tbnid=6p81kTMb8PMd5M:&tbnh=95&tbnw=73&zoom=1&usg=__th3Ba5bZpwZNtiA_yJH7KngT26Y=&docid=wAzAWGNharUIgM&sa=X&ei=P7U0UvL4O5be4APl7IHwDQ&ved=0CDAQ9QEwAA&dur=292 (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://narrowmind.railfan.net/Vulcan_Duplex.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f%3D1%26t%3D5809&h=829&w=635&sz=178&tbnid=6p81kTMb8PMd5M:&tbnh=95&tbnw=73&zoom=1&usg=__th3Ba5bZpwZNtiA_yJH7KngT26Y=&docid=wAzAWGNharUIgM&sa=X&ei=P7U0UvL4O5be4APl7IHwDQ&ved=0CDAQ9QEwAA&dur=292)

As you can see by the photos, a relatively small prototype that would've looked right at home next to the B'mann Shays, Heisler, or Climax.   8)   Maybe now that the Colorado fans' appetites have been sated with the K27 & C-19, maybe Bachmann would reconsider?   ;)   Tom

I knew that was the loco in question, and the more I see of it the more I like it!  ;)

Wouldn't hold my breath....

Thank all for taking the time...I think a neat prototype!!...like I said...I would-a-bought one.

Get hold of a Heisler Boiler and Chassis, two Porter drive units, a bit of kit bashing, and its a goer. My next project, if I finish the one i'm doing now.

That is a very funky engine that would be right at home on a backwoods short line.

I remember seeing one similar to it on the Cripple Creek and Victor (2' gauge), but that was a long time ago.


Les

If Bachmann did not produce the GE 45-tonner--who made the two I have here--center cabs. siderods--??gj

Glenn the two that you have are 44 tonners.



Edited:  I should have said that the two you have are 45 tonners produced in 2003.  See my apology to Glenn in a later post.

Quote from: Desertdweller on September 15, 2013, 07:04:06 PM
That is a very funky engine that would be right at home on a backwoods short line.

I remember seeing one similar to it on the Cripple Creek and Victor (2' gauge), but that was a long time ago.


Les

The Cripple Creek loco is a Meyer type loco made by the British firm, Bagnall. Meyer locomotives have two swivelling truck, both with cylinders attached, mounted under the boiler. They differ from Mallets, which have only one swivelling truck, and Garratts which have the boiler in between the trucks. Meyers were made by a number of European and British makers. The Vulcan duplexes were broadly similay to Meyers, but presumably did not use the Meyer patents. Only about 7 Vulcan duplexes were made.

Hamish

Bill--I have a box labeled for "GE 45ton"  locomotive--red-unlettered--#81899--I also have one in Santa Fe "Zebra stripes"--the 44-ton  is a 4-motor prototype, the 45-ton was a 2-motor loco having side rods to power the other 2 axles.  

I have seen the 44-tonners--made by either Aristo Craft or USA Trains in 1:29 scale.The  44-ton loco was the result of an agreement with the BLE&F over staffing--Under 89,000 lbs could be operated with only an engineer--90,000 or more had to have a fireman  (I may be a bit off on the weights--but they're in that range)

I suspect that the model was not too popular as Bachmann blew them out via Micro Mark--I didn't really need another one (A new locomotive is self-justifying) but I could not let them get away with selling them at $90--or about that--
Glenn Joesten

Glenn, and all

My humble apology for my mistake :-[.  Glenn, of course you are right the Spectrum siderod version later produced is also 45 tons.  I was thinking of a different brand. :o  I bought two of them at the closeout price and converted one into a box cab oil electric.  Reference to my converted version:

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,23981.0.html

This is the list of the ones that were produced;


81896    MQ&M Co   None   2003   ~ Loco   GE 45 ton, Midwest Quarry & Mining Co.
81897   AT&SF   None   2003   ~ Loco   GE 45 ton, Santa Fe
81898   None   None   2003   ~ Loco   GE 45 ton, painted, unlettered red & yellow
81899   None   None   2003   ~ Loco   GE 45 ton, painted, unlettered  yellow and black


Thanks for bringing it to my attention!!

Did you have an article on this one in Garden Railways??  I recall seeing a conversion like this--

Glenn