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Title: 2-4-4-2 wiring problems
Post by: dutchbuilder on October 15, 2013, 09:16:01 AM
I have two 2-4-4-2's running on my layout.
First one and now the second one had power pickup problems.
It seemes like the two pickup wires, black and red, on the front bogie are to tight.
They go trough two holes on top of the front gearbox and then go down to the two bronze pickups.
On both two locomotives one of the wires just broke off near the pickups.
That means that i had to disassemble the locomotive and the front bogie to get to the soldering points.
I resoldered the wire and after reassembling the bogie i gave the wires some slack. through the holes.
Let's hope it will solve the problem.

Ton
Title: Re: 2-4-4-2 wiring problems
Post by: Stevelewis on October 30, 2013, 02:45:04 PM
Have  these  locos had  much  running?

Also do they  run  round  sharp curves at  all?
Title: Re: 2-4-4-2 wiring problems
Post by: dutchbuilder on November 01, 2013, 07:03:55 AM
Yes and yes , very sharp corners 37.5cm.
My 2-6-6-2's also manage these extreme radii and have, after some mods, no problems at all.
But no problems with wires breaking off, yet.
The buildup of both types are the same.

Ton

Title: Re: 2-4-4-2 wiring problems
Post by: Stevelewis on November 01, 2013, 07:22:30 AM
I was  wondering  if  the   wiring problem was due to the  movement due to curves,

We had  problems  with  Hornby Brigton Belle 5 car units, where  the  wiring  on the power bogie came adrift at the soldered  joints, which we identified as  being caused by the   bogie  turning and  putting a strain on the  joint in the turn!

Problem eliminated  by re wirng with longer cables  which provided   some additional  'slack'

Title: Re: 2-4-4-2 wiring problems
Post by: Kernow on November 06, 2013, 10:00:23 AM
I just had a problem with a 2-4-4-2 where the front engine would hardly swing at all. It would move a bit then something was making the side on the inside of the curve rise up.

I had read somewhere that the steam pipe from the boiler to the front truck caused some 2-6-6-2s to derail but even after this was removed the problem still occured.

The pickup wires were not causing it so I took off the drawbar that connects the rear of the front truck to the front of the main chassis.

The problem was that the rear end of this drawbar is square and this was limiting its swing around the rear screw. So I took a file and rounded off the edges - now fixed !

Title: Re: 2-4-4-2 wiring problems
Post by: dutchbuilder on November 07, 2013, 08:05:10 AM
Yes , you can remove the steampipe.
What i did was remove the pipe, snipped off the connection to the boiler and glued it inside the recess of the front truck.
So you still see the steampipe but it moves freely.
I also removed the top bolts of the front leaf springs.

Ton