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Title: dem bulbs
Post by: M1FredQ on February 11, 2014, 02:16:28 PM
Ive been on this quest to easily replace the lights in the WBB F-3s, F-7, some of the steamers.

well through the knowledgeable folks on this forum there is an electronics company that has the bulbs you literally screw in and wa-la youre done thats what i like!!

now I need to know what voltage those nose lights on the F-3, F-7, Berkshire , Hudson and GG-1 are because this company offers a 12 and a 24 volt choice.

this is exciting as finally we can have "bright lights"  without the heat or draw of power>

Thanks in advance I will post results when I get this done.
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: phillyreading on February 11, 2014, 02:34:18 PM
Fred,
Buy one of each and see which is the brightness you want, before buying a whole lot of bulbs. Just remember which is which, write down what engine got the 12 volt bulb and what got the 24 volt bulb.
Let us know how things work out for you.

Lee F.
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: wmwalker on February 11, 2014, 05:34:55 PM
Fred
What Lee suggested would be the way to go. I bet the 24volt would be a better choice but let us know what you use and how it turned out.  :)
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: M1FredQ on February 11, 2014, 08:42:01 PM
thanks guys

i will put the order in tomorrow. the fella that called me back was really nice and helpful. he was VERY interested

that this was hobby train related.

i am on this!!!

He also said they had red yellow and green.

i was wondering if there is a bulb for the cab in the F units would a yellow light be OK?
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: wmwalker on February 11, 2014, 09:07:33 PM
Fred
The yellow might work. It would be like a soft white light maybe. Keep us all posted and maybe some pictures when you are finished.  :)
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: M1FredQ on February 12, 2014, 12:05:08 PM
Stay tuned!!!!
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: M1FredQ on February 12, 2014, 11:20:44 PM
I put the order in and ordered one of each a 12 and a 24

I also ordered a yellow. The person I spoke to said it gives off a nice yellow hue which would look good from a cab.

I called Bachmann and the service person mentioned all engines will be using LEDs from now on as regular bulbs are being discontinued and difficult to find. He also mentioned the sound systems on all engines are going to be upgraded.

sounds like good news ahead.The service person was real short as he was on another call.

to be continued!!!
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: M1FredQ on February 16, 2014, 05:37:01 PM
Fly in the ointment as I received a e-mail from UPS that my order was cancelled.

When I called Saturday the electronics place is closed weekends.

I'll on Monday and post what's going on.
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: r0gruth on February 16, 2014, 10:02:03 PM
Fred,

The higher voltage lamp will last longer than the lower voltage one.
The lower voltage bulbs will be brighter but burn out quicker.
Your choice.
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: M1FredQ on February 17, 2014, 01:43:28 PM
thanks for the info !!!
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: M1FredQ on February 19, 2014, 11:11:51 AM
rOgruth

I called Monday and got everything straightened out. some glitch in the shipping department.

I also talked to my contact person about what you said.

You "is" correct rO.                           the contact told me the 12 will be a little brighter and yes will burn out sooner the 24 will be nice and bright but will last a very long time!!!!!!!

I plan to use my WBB F-7 ACL units for this experiment I will put the 24 in the powered "A" unit and the 12volt in the non-powered "A" unit.

i will do my best to learn photobucket so I can learn to post pictures and give a report.

thanks everyone.
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: M1FredQ on February 20, 2014, 09:07:42 PM
bulbs arrived today!!!!

i hope to get to it this weekend
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: M1FredQ on February 21, 2014, 11:07:29 AM
Just a question.

Is there a video that shows how to remove the shell from a O-Gauge F-7 safely???

I don't want to accidently scratch up my ACL F-7
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: Len on February 21, 2014, 01:46:07 PM
The 12V bulb is basically "stock". The 24V bulb is aimed at folks using TMCC or DCS, where you have a constant 18V on the track, to operate their trains.

Len
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: phillyreading on February 22, 2014, 12:10:55 PM
Quote from: M1FredQ on February 21, 2014, 11:07:29 AM
Just a question.

Is there a video that shows how to remove the shell from a O-Gauge F-7 safely???

I don't want to accidently scratch up my ACL F-7

Do you have the Williams F-7 A unit? If so you must remove two screws at either end of the diesel engine underneath. Turn the truck assembly to the right or the left to get access to the screws. I think the newer WBB F-7's would be the same, not sure as I don't own the newer WBB F-7. After removing the screws simply hold the truck assembly and pull up on the shell, it should come off by pulling straight up.
Be careful how you re-install the back step assembly, as it can get mounted in the wrong direction and cause binding and/or derailing on turns, if that happens just remove it and re-install in the other direction. The correct position is with the step assembly bar having the straight part of the bar facing the front of the engine or the small indents that stick out go to the rear.
The F-7 B units that I have don't have a light bulb as they are from the Crown Edition and have Station Sound unit inside them. To remove the shell you must remove the same four screws and turn the truck the same way to access the screws.

Lee F.
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: silver69 on February 22, 2014, 12:29:29 PM
Quote from: M1FredQ on February 21, 2014, 11:07:29 AM
Just a question.

Is there a video that shows how to remove the shell from a O-Gauge F-7 safely???

I don't want to accidently scratch up my ACL F-7

As stated, 4 screws and lift off.

Fold a towel over a couple of times to make a soft cradle for the F7 to lie.
Be cautious not to snag the horns and pull them off when lifting the train from the cradle.

Steve
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: M1FredQ on February 27, 2014, 11:37:31 PM
everything is ready to go just have had an intense work week.

hopefully this weekend i can get to it
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: Chessie1971 on April 05, 2014, 08:58:33 PM
Here is a short video changing 12 volt bulbs in williams WM GP9. I put 14 volt led inverted lens bulb was not bright enough. Then tried 14.4 volt 3-1/2 bulb was brighter then i tried 14 volt T3 3-1/2 bulb and turn my transfomer up to 8 to 9 volts lights was much brighter and i'm going to try 14 volt led bulb with frosted lens light suppose to scatter with frosted lens. I will let you know the outcome on the frosted led's   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2h374sYKno&feature=share&list=UU6FlQJDXlHIayXVtC4L0xIg
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: M1FredQ on April 07, 2014, 11:30:45 PM
Chessie

You may want to try the 24Watt'ers

I havent installed mine yet but from the looks of yours those 24's will be like a beacon like on the real thing at night.

If you want I'll give you the contact info for ACE ELECTRONICS where I got my bulbs.

With so much going on I haven't had a chance to install yet. Let's see what happens this weekend!!
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: Chessie1971 on April 12, 2014, 01:36:44 PM
Fred could you give me a better link for the 24 volt bulbs. Thanks Jeff !!!!
Title: Re: dem bulbs
Post by: DominicMazoch on April 27, 2014, 04:21:03 PM
Ace Electronics?  As on Antione near 34th in Houston?