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Title: Locomotives & rolling stock for 15" radius
Post by: wallywaldau on October 06, 2007, 04:35:31 PM
Which Bachmann locomotives easily handle the 15" radius? I plan a long L-shaped switching layout and I only have 32" for the loop. I assume the GE 70T and 40T are OK. But is there anything bigger among the F, GP, SD, etc that will still be at home on a 15"R? For rolling stock, I plan to stay in the 40' category and smaller. Are there any older passenger cars that would be OK on the 15"R?
Title: Re: Locomotives & rolling stock for 15" radius
Post by: the Bach-man on October 06, 2007, 11:26:56 PM
Dear Wally,
The small switchers are clearly your best bet. Possibly you can use streetcars for your passengers.
Have fun!
the Bach-man
Title: Re: Locomotives & rolling stock for 15" radius
Post by: wallywaldau on October 07, 2007, 03:14:05 AM
Thanks for the streetcar suggestion. But what, if anything, is in the "small switcher" category besides the 44T, 70T, Plymouth and the 0-4-0? Would the SW, NW, RSD diesels in other lines be OK?
Title: Re: Locomotives & rolling stock for 15" radius
Post by: Beatle (TrainBrain) on October 07, 2007, 07:51:54 AM
Well, if it's logging/mining, a shay.

Other than that, yeah, small switchers.
Title: Re: Locomotives & rolling stock for 15" radius
Post by: SteamGene on October 07, 2007, 08:06:12 PM
switchers are designed to handle small radii turns, after all. 
Gene
Title: Re: Locomotives & rolling stock for 15" radius
Post by: Conrail Quality on October 07, 2007, 09:20:15 PM
If you want more variety than just switchers, an Atlas AEM-7 can handle 15" radius. It's been discontinued, but if you serach online, you can still find unused AEM-7's in SEPTA and MARC paint (you have to go to train shows or on ebay to find the more popular Amtrak or NJ Transit versions).

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff83/Penncentral/8574.gif)
Title: Re: Locomotives & rolling stock for 15" radius
Post by: RAM on October 07, 2007, 11:03:49 PM
any SD  would be out.  I think any road power would look out of place.  SWs might work.  I think a 4-4-0 would work.
Title: Re: Locomotives & rolling stock for 15" radius
Post by: martin_lumber on October 09, 2007, 11:02:20 PM
I believe anything that Bachmann makes (70t, 44t, streetcar,) has been mentioned except the Spectrum 0-6-0T and the 4-4-0

Other than that...

MDC EMD Model 40
FDT Trackmobile (Yes, I have seen a trackmobile pull a regular train)
Proto or Athearn SW600, 7, 9, 1200, or 1500

My 2 cents

Phil
Title: Re: Locomotives & rolling stock for 15" radius
Post by: ray46 on October 10, 2007, 09:20:19 AM
Something no one has asked; if you're building a small L-shaped switching layout, why do you need a return loop?  eliminate that and you could probably build curves that would handle almost any piece of rolling stock.  As far as locomotives, since it's a switching layout you probably wouldn't see any C44-9W's anyway.  Stay with switchers, GP's and maybe an SD40-2.

Ray
Title: Re: Locomotives & rolling stock for 15" radius
Post by: kevin2083 on October 10, 2007, 11:15:55 AM
If possible, try to work in a wye instead of the loop, since the locomotive is probably what you need to turn and not the cars.

Just my thoughts. Ignore if you want.
Title: Re: Locomotives & rolling stock for 15" radius
Post by: willb on October 11, 2007, 11:32:47 PM
you don't have to limit yourself to a logging or coal line if you want to use a shay.   several were used as industrial switchers when their original owners' lines were abandoned.
Title: Re: Locomotives & rolling stock for 15" radius
Post by: Nigel on October 12, 2007, 11:47:48 PM
Quote from: ray46 on October 10, 2007, 09:20:19 AM
Something no one has asked; if you're building a small L-shaped switching layout, why do you need a return loop?  eliminate that and you could probably build curves that would handle almost any piece of rolling stock.  As far as locomotives, since it's a switching layout you probably wouldn't see any C44-9W's anyway.  Stay with switchers, GP's and maybe an SD40-2.

Ray

On the local UP - CP transfer in Shakopee/Savage MN I have seen GP38-2, SD40-2, SD90/43MAC, Dash 8, Dash 9 and GE-AC units.
Title: Re: Locomotives & rolling stock for 15" radius
Post by: RAM on October 13, 2007, 02:48:42 PM
 The Kansas City Southern used a shay to switch in downtown Kansas City Mo..
Title: Re: Locomotives & rolling stock for 15" radius
Post by: wallywaldau on October 17, 2007, 11:40:53 PM
The layout is an L Loop with many drop off points. I just like to run the trains around - drop off & pickup - then run around some more. Thanks for the specific suggestions - especially the AEM-7.
Title: Re: Locomotives & rolling stock for 15" radius
Post by: Guilford Guy on October 18, 2007, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: wallywaldau on October 17, 2007, 11:40:53 PM
The layout is an L Loop with many drop off points. I just like to run the trains around - drop off & pickup - then run around some more. Thanks for the specific suggestions - especially the AEM-7.
Although an AEM7 may negotiate 15" I doubt amfleets, especially with close couplings will.
Title: Re: Locomotives & rolling stock for 15" radius
Post by: Conrail Quality on October 18, 2007, 08:09:37 PM
Quote from: Guilford Guy on October 18, 2007, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: wallywaldau on October 17, 2007, 11:40:53 PM
The layout is an L Loop with many drop off points. I just like to run the trains around - drop off & pickup - then run around some more. Thanks for the specific suggestions - especially the AEM-7.
Although an AEM7 may negotiate 15" I doubt amfleets, especially with close couplings will.

Just because Amtrak doesn't run them in freight service doesn't mean that they're not capable of it. In fact, the Swedish RC-4, which the AEM-7 is just a variation of, regularly does so.
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff83/Penncentral/Rc4_1279.jpg)
So an AEM-7 in freight(or switching) service is entirely plausible.