The forums been quiet lately (until recently), so I think it'd be a good idea to bring up a hot topic on the forums.
This post isn't really about the possibility of if the Skarloey Railway would be made by Bachmann, or what scale they would be in. This is just a post for fun to think about what kind of items they could make, if they ever did find a way to make the Skarloey Railway work.
I think first off, the range would be handled in a similar manner the Thomas range was first handled, as well as Chuggington. Basically, three engines to kick things off, and then some rolling stock.
Engines:
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There's no doubt that Skarleoy and Rheneas would go first, being the original engines of the railway. I think the bigger question is who the third engine would be.
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They could easily go in numberical order with Sir Handel...
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...go with Peter Sam or Duncan for color contrast...
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Or go with Rusty for an easier third tooling.
After the main 6 engines, I think engines like Duke, Victor, Millie, and Luke would depend on how well the range does.
Rolling Stock:
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The Slate truck is one of the most common pieces of rolling stock on the Skarloey Railway, so I imagine it would definitely be included. Maybe even with a slate load.
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The blue passenger coaches have been in the show for a long time, and they're a bright color that can be appealing on a layout. The livery also dates back to the Railway Series. I imagine a coach would be picked as a piece of rolling stock without a doubt.
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The gunpowder wagon was only in Season 4, but nonetheless it has a soft spot with the fan base. "D.Fusit" has always gotten a bit of a chuckle out of those who have noticed.
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Can't have a train without a caboose!
There are other wagons, but for now I just wanted to narrow it down to a "core" set of what could be introduced to a hypothetical Narrow Gauge range. There's not a whole lot more wagons though, maybe 10 unique pieces of rolling stock at most.
What would you guys like to see? What would you do differently?
There is certainly no harm in sharing the idea, as I believe that narrow gauge would be a very phenomenal idea in the range! Even if many deny the possibility, in the end, we all know that everyone would buy narrow gauge if it were to happen. So, I am in full support of the idea if it were to happen!
If they were to do narrow gauge I could easily see them starting off with the first three (Skarloey, Rheneas, and Sir Handel), and having the rolling stock that Sparks mentioned in his post to join the range. Perhaps maybe even include a set with Skarloey and some rolling stock? It'd be an ideal way to warm up fans to this new range of products. Either way, if Bachmann were to introduce narrow gauge in the Thomas and Friends series, it would be interesting to see what kind of approach they would take with them.
We don't know yet, but when the Bachmann rep. said in the video that we'll be "pleased and surprised" by next year's announcement, did he perhaps mean narrow gauge? It's a really vague speculation, but there is hope ;)
On the subject of the brakevan, I believe that they'd also introduce the blue van, as it is part of the blue and white set of coaches. While I'm on the subject as well; do you guys think they'd make the blue and white coaches with the Annie/Clarabel esque expressions, or like they were pictured in Sparks's image? Finally: sorry if I seem dense for this but is there some kind of joke in the D.Fusit name that I just do not understand? I actually don't get the joke :-[
And whilst I don't really see this lot coming, I would absolutely love to see BACHMANN produce the Narrow Guage engines in N Guage. Personally I believe that they would start off with Skarloey and Rheneas, and possibly a third engine, if they did it would likely be Sir Handel I think. Other than that I think they'd start with the slate trucks (possibly with a load of slate), the general brown brakevan, and blue and white coaches with the blue brakevan. So essentially I'm almost completely in agreement with Sparks...
And finally, a side note: I genuinely think this is a fantastic topic idea, I really do ;D kudos, Sparks :)
AJW, its one of those jokes where you gotta read it out loud. D.Fusit = Defuse it, cause gun powder is highly combustible, so you don't want any flames around it. ;)
Quote from: jettrainfan on November 03, 2014, 05:11:29 PM
AJW, its one of those jokes where you gotta read it out loud. D.Fusit = Defuse it, cause gun powder is highly combustible, so you don't want any flames around it. ;)
Ah, OK I understand now. Thanks jettrainfan :)
Quote from: AJW98Productions The Second on November 03, 2014, 12:27:43 AM
On the subject of the brakevan, I believe that they'd also introduce the blue van, as it is part of the blue and white set of coaches. While I'm on the subject as well; do you guys think they'd make the blue and white coaches with the Annie/Clarabel esque expressions, or like they were pictured in Sparks's image?
I have never known Bachmann to avoid any repaints, and this goes for both HO and large scale lines. I feel like if Bachmann wanted to do different paint schemes for different coaches, freight cars, or brake vans, then I do not see what is stopping them. If Bachmann made stock like the raspberry syrup tank, nothing should stop them from doing repaints for narrow gauge stock (if they add them to their range that is).
Quote from: ScotNick on October 26, 2014, 06:47:56 PM
We don't know yet, but when the Bachmann rep. said in the video that we'll be "pleased and surprised" by next year's announcement, did he perhaps mean narrow gauge? It's a really vague speculation, but there is hope ;)
I'll be honest, a thought like this actually crossed my mind after I watched the video. I can't say I disagree with that theory, especially since a number of people would never guess if they would make an appearance in the range. That and Bachmann UK did announce narrow gauge earlier this year. So I honestly don't think it's that unlikely, especially considering how popular these models would be if they were to be made.
Either way I think it's safe to say that more people want narrow gauge more than they would believe that they would actually happen. I know I would certainly be in favor of them. No doubt I would get the original seven from season 4 if they were done and of course one of my favorite characters who was introduced after season 7... Luke!
Whilst I agree with most points raised here; if it were to happen, I think we'd get Skarloey & Rheneas in the first year, followed by Rusty. Those three seem to be the "headliners" for the series these days. After that, who knows?
I think many would love to obtain such models, an d that the the selling point is grossly underestimated! They, in OO9, would be to scale. People may have to buy new track work but for those like
Me its a worthwhile expense for the sale of he collection and building a layout. It opens whole new scenic opportunities too....
That would make sense, maybe some sets such as Skarloey and the coaches and Rheneas and the trucks
Knowing there is a big market to the HOn30 or oo9 narrow gauge for TTTE. The only problem I see is making the chassis for the engines. Parkside Dundas is a web site I go to for 009. Rolling stock is really easy to build. I have built a few slate wagons in Hon30 already. Another site to go is railway recollections, the make 0n30 and hon30. The other though that came to mind would be on30 but that can't be used with the existing ho scale Thomas line.
One nice thing they could do with the repaints of models is copy the real engines from wales. Skarloey, Rheneas, Sir Handal, Peter Sam and Duncan are from the Talyllyn railroad in Tywyn Wales.
Some great railways would come from Bachmann producing this scale.
One thing I'd like to hear people's opinion on is do you think the coaches would have faces or not? And do you think the trucks would have faces or not?
I would personally think that you all are forgetting Duke the lost engine. because that is the very first narrow Gauge engine. also was the very starting point when Rev wrote the Narrow Gauge stories. at that time he was a volunteer with the Festiniog Railway in Porthmadog.
The coaches from the narrow gauge line that have been preserved from when they used the models both have faces and no faces. so doing a sort of mix is totally possible. but from Bachmanns stand point it would be easier to only have 1 kind to save on starting molds.
as for Freight cars you do also see some small vans and gondolas when Rusty is out repairing the track. so there is more freight cars around you just have to look for them.
I'd by the narrow gauge engines in a heartbeat. Scale doesn't even really matter.
if Bachmann were to make our NG friends, I can see them maybe starting out with Skarloey, a coach (most likely red) or a slate wagon, and a guards van [brown or to match the coaches (red or blue)]. Sold as N or N/009 (like HO/00) scale. Start out with a simple set like Skarloey's Passenger Service or Skarloey's Slate Delivery. then slowly add on in the years. I'd be fine with Bachmann coming out with an Engine, a piece of rolling stock, and a building or off rail character for the HO/00 line and doing the same with the N/009 line. there isn't much rolling stock to the NG railway (4 different types of coaches, BMQ trucks, slate trucks, guards van and maybe Millie's open top carriage) not like SG rolling stock. They don't even need to produce new NG track, just include N scale track in the sets. Maybe if they're feeling more adventurous make a HO/N crossing so SG and NG can interact with each other, but that's an even bigger dream. ;)
Quote from: Chaz on October 26, 2014, 06:39:46 PM
There is certainly no harm in sharing the idea, as I believe that narrow gauge would be a very phenomenal idea in the range! Even if many deny the possibility, in the end, we all know that everyone would buy narrow gauge if it were to happen. So, I am in full support of the idea if it were to happen!
If they were to do narrow gauge I could easily see them starting off with the first three (Skarloey, Rheneas, and Sir Handel), and having the rolling stock that Sparks mentioned in his post to join the range. Perhaps maybe even include a set with Skarloey and some rolling stock? It'd be an ideal way to warm up fans to this new range of products. Either way, if Bachmann were to introduce narrow gauge in the Thomas and Friends series, it would be interesting to see what kind of approach they would take with them.
speaking of sets, how about a BMQ set with Thomas and/or Paxton, Luke, HO open wagons, NG BMQ wagons, two ovals of track. Bachmann should also do dual-gauge track.
I can see Bachman releasing Paxton but I'm not sure about dual gauge track. there are manufacturers that produce dual gauge track. modeltrainstuff.com sells it.
Okay thanks. I'll look at that.
Peco has a fair selection of HOe/(HOn30 (1:87/9mm) turnouts for U.S. 2-1/2ft narrow gauge. They're also starting to do OO9 (1:76/9mm) for the UK OO narrow gaugers.
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WOW! great engines, some of them do look like the NG engines! especially the one that has Duncan's cab.
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Found Dual Gauge track on this site. both HO/HOe and HO/HOm versions.
So, we are getting Narrow Gauge this year after all. After so many years, an with the OO9 market starting to be recognised (especially here in the UK), it doesn't come as a surprise.
However, there is most likely a catch.
It is CRUCIAL that these products sell. Releasing just one engine will stump sales slightly I imagine. Parents of young children will be unlikely to buy the a whole new scale of track and stock for just one engine. If Skarloey and the rolling stock do not sell, the range may not expand to include all or any of the others, which would be a crying shame.
Therefore, I urge you all to buy these when they are released. We've said for years we wanted them, now lets show Bachmann how much we meant it!
I do not think you have to tell anyone to do that twice. because the demand for narrow gauge has been very high whether or not you are a Thomas fan or if you want to model the Tallylyn railway and modify the Skarloey model.
The price is steep, but considering how serious most fans are of modeling narrow gauge, I am not particularly worried. I am sure we will see more additions with Narrow Gauge for more years to come. I don't think anyone has any reason to worry about this.
Sometimes people need a prod ;)
I just hope they don't do one engine per year; I'd be fine with a break from the standard gauge to allow this to develop further and quicker. To wait 6-7 years for the core characters would be torture! But that's long term. I'm elated that it'sactuly being done at all!
I'm on the same boat as you are. Just Skarloey alone makes me happy enough, even if most new ranges generally start with two or three locomotives, but in this it's just Skarloey. Again not complaining, it could be Bachmann's way of testing if this really is going to sell despite his high price. If he sells well we could easily get Rheneas and/or any of the original six to join the range with some more stock. It might take a while for them to do this, but it will make each and every engine worth the wait. :)
I'll definitely be getting Scarloey, I don't want narrow gauge to fall short in sales. If G scale turned into such a success, I can see this having a good chance!
The box vans look kind of goofy in the year book but I love the look of the open wagon--I'd love to have a Skarloey hauling a lot of them. It's exciting indeed ;)
One thing I do like about the NG CGI renders, and why I think they're better than S4 models, is Peter Sam's funnel, his CGI render uses that Gisel Funnel that was used in the RWS, and the Ertl toy instead of that box-shaped one used in the model series.
S4 Peter Sam
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S5-12 Peter Sam
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CGI Peter Sam
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Also how can you not love the detailing that's been added? :P
Does anybody have any idea what chassis bachmann is going to use for Skarloey?
this might be an interesting road for someone, not the same scale as bachmann are using though
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/67926-hieslers-55mm-scale-models/
What needs to be released as soon as possible in the Bachmann Thomas & Frineds Narrow Gauge range to give it a good kick-off is:
Bachmann Thomas & Friends Narrow Gauge Locomotives:
Narrow Gauge Rheneas
Narrow Gauge Sir Handel
Narrow Gauge Peter Sam
Narrow Gauge Rusty
Narrow Gauge Duncan
Bachmann Thomas & Friends Narrow Gauge Passenger Rolling Stock:
Narrow Gauge Blue Coach
Narrow Gauge Red Coach
Narrow Gauge Green Coach
Bachmann Thomas & Friends Narrow Gauge Freight Rolling Stock:
Narrow Gauge Troublesome Truck #1
Narrow Gauge Troublesome Truck #2
Narrow Gauge Slate Trucks
Narrow Gauge D.Fusit Gunpowder Wagon
Narrow Gauge Tea Room Coach
Narrow Gauge Flatbed
Narrow Gauge Well Wagon
Narrow Gauge Breakdown Crane
Narrow Gauge Blue Brake Van
Narrow Gauge Red Brake Van
Narrow Gauge Brown Brake Van
Narrow Gauge Grey Brake Van
Then, when all or most of them have been released in my other post on this Discussion, these should be thought about:
Bachmann Thomas & Friends Narrow Gauge Locomotives:
Narrow Gauge Ivo Hugh
Narrow Gauge Duke
Narrow Gauge Bertram
Narrow Gauge Mighty Mac
Narrow Gauge Proteus
Narrow Gauge Victor
Narrow Gauge Luke
Narrow Gauge Millie
Bachmann Thomas & Friends Narrow Gauge Freight Rolling Stock:
Narrow Gauge Quarry Wagon
Narrow Gauge Slab Wagon
Narrow Gauge V-Tipper Wagon
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on October 30, 2015, 06:38:43 PM
Then, when all or most of them have been released in my other post on this Discussion, these should be thought about:
Bachmann Thomas & Friends Narrow Gauge Locomotives:
Narrow Gauge Ivo Hugh
Narrow Gauge Duke
Narrow Gauge Bertram
Narrow Gauge Mighty Mac
Narrow Gauge Proteus
Narrow Gauge Luke
I don't think HiT actually allows BACHMANN to release RWS exclusive Engines or stock, either that or they just won't by their own choice, so I don't really see Ivo Hugh happening, Proteus and Bertram I think would need more appearances to create enough demand for them to be in the range, so I'd strike those 2 out...for now, unless they return for a few episodes in a new season, Mighty Mac is a similar case but not as bad. Duke has the demand of the older fans but I believe he too would need to make a grand return before BACHMANN would produce him, oddly enough out of all those engines I think Luke has the highest chance, being recently introduced but seen enough and liked by old fans and new, but again, he will need time I think. But after they produce the other engines I suppose plenty of time could've passed, so who knows really?
Just some thoughts
~Alex
Quote from: AJW98Productions on November 08, 2015, 06:14:01 AM
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on October 30, 2015, 06:38:43 PM
Then, when all or most of them have been released in my other post on this Discussion, these should be thought about:
Bachmann Thomas & Friends Narrow Gauge Locomotives:
Narrow Gauge Ivo Hugh
Narrow Gauge Duke
Narrow Gauge Bertram
Narrow Gauge Mighty Mac
Narrow Gauge Proteus
Narrow Gauge Victor
Narrow Gauge Luke
Narrow Gauge Millie
I don't think HiT actually allows BACHMANN to release RWS exclusive Engines or stock, either that or they just won't by their own choice, so I don't really see Ivo Hugh happening, Proteus and Bertram I think would need more appearances to create enough demand for them to be in the range, so I'd strike those 2 out...for now, unless they return for a few episodes in a new season, Mighty Mac is a similar case but not as bad. Duke has the demand of the older fans but I believe he too would need to make a grand return before BACHMANN would produce him, oddly enough out of all those engines I think Luke has the highest chance, being recently introduced but seen enough and liked by old fans and new, but again, he will need time I think. But after they produce the other engines I suppose plenty of time could've passed, so who knows really?
Just some thoughts
~Alex
Why wouldn't HiT Enetertainment allow Bachmann to produce RWS Engines? I could see Mighty Mac getting released, but I expect it would be complicated, so it would be expensive. Anyway, before we see Mighty Mac, Victor, Luke and Millie get released, we really need the classic Engines in production from Bachmann first, which is Rheneas, Sir Handel, Peter Sam, Rusty and Duncan.
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on November 08, 2015, 06:32:16 AM
Why wouldn't HiT Enetertainment allow Bachmann to produce RWS Engines? I could see Mighty Mac getting released, but I expect it would be complicated, so it would be expensive. Anyway, before we see Mighty Mac, Victor, Luke and Millie get released, we really need the classic Engines in production from Bachmann first, which is Rheneas, Sir Handel, Peter Sam, Rusty and Duncan.
A few years ago BACHMANN announced 2 trucks that had been RWS exclusives and from what I've heard they couldn't get approval from HiT to manufacture them, although I could be wrong, I think RWS models also have a narrower (no pun intended) target audience to more easily appeal to, as the TVS is more relevant to the younger audience, which seems to be deprived of the RWS, which is a shame really, there are lot's of amazing RWS stories that haven't made it to screens or into the hearts and minds of children they were intended for after all...
Quote from: AJW98Productions on November 08, 2015, 06:37:41 AM
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on November 08, 2015, 06:32:16 AM
Why wouldn't HiT Enetertainment allow Bachmann to produce RWS Engines? I could see Mighty Mac getting released, but I expect it would be complicated, so it would be expensive. Anyway, before we see Mighty Mac, Victor, Luke and Millie get released, we really need the classic Engines in production from Bachmann first, which is Rheneas, Sir Handel, Peter Sam, Rusty and Duncan.
A few years ago BACHMANN announced 2 trucks that had RWS exclusives and from what I've heard they couldn't get approval from HiT to manufacture them, although I could be wrong, I think RWS models also have a narrower (no pun intended) target audience to more easily appeal to, as the TVS is more relevant to the younger audience, which seems to be deprived of the RWS, which is a shame really, there are lot's of amazing RWS stories that haven't made it to screens or into the hearts and minds of children they were intended for after all...
That was back in 2005. I wondered why those Wagons where cancelled. I wouldn't care if the Wagons came from the RWS or the TV Series. I want Bachmann and Hornby to release products from both to expand the variety of products avilaible.
Quote from: AJW98Productions on November 08, 2015, 06:37:41 AM
A few years ago BACHMANN announced 2 trucks that had RWS exclusives and from what I've heard they couldn't get approval from HiT to manufacture them, although I could be wrong, I think RWS models also have a narrower (no pun intended) target audience to more easily appeal to, as the TVS is more relevant to the younger audience, which seems to be deprived of the RWS, which is a shame really, there are lot's of amazing RWS stories that haven't made it to screens or into the hearts and minds of children they were intended for after all...
Alex, that is correct. Fred and Ricketty were both announced in 2005 and were cancelled in mid-production because Hit did not approve of them being made, hence why the open wagon was blue and the cargo car was painted orange (which was odd because at that time, there were no orange wagons on the show).
Bachmann generally aims to make characters as they were in the television series rather than designs from the books. Some of the rolling stock they have made in the past have done stock that have some nice RWS touches to them, including the blue narrow gauge van has an 'SR' logo printed on too. That alone has me tempted to pick one of those up!
Quote from: Chaz on November 08, 2015, 02:45:22 PM
Quote from: AJW98Productions on November 08, 2015, 06:37:41 AM
A few years ago BACHMANN announced 2 trucks that had RWS exclusives and from what I've heard they couldn't get approval from HiT to manufacture them, although I could be wrong, I think RWS models also have a narrower (no pun intended) target audience to more easily appeal to, as the TVS is more relevant to the younger audience, which seems to be deprived of the RWS, which is a shame really, there are lot's of amazing RWS stories that haven't made it to screens or into the hearts and minds of children they were intended for after all...
Alex, that is correct. Fred and Ricketty were both announced in 2005 and were cancelled in mid-production because Hit did not approve of them being made, hence why the open wagon was blue and the cargo car was painted orange (which was odd because at that time, there were no orange wagons on the show).
Bachmann generally aims to make characters as they were in the television series rather than designs from the books. Some of the rolling stock they have made in the past have done stock that have some nice RWS touches to them, including the blue narrow gauge van has an 'SR' logo printed on too. That alone has me tempted to pick one of those up!
So is that why the Open Wagon - Blue and the Cargo Car was released, as they where supposed to be Fred Pelhay and Rickety, but instead Bachmann released the Open Wagon - Blue and the Cargo Car, as HiT Entertainment would not give the approval too Bachmann to put those two Open Wagon's into production?
Have you already got a 77202 Narrow Gauge Box Van - Blue then?
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on November 08, 2015, 02:54:21 PM
So is that why the Open Wagon - Blue and the Cargo Car was released as they where supposed to be Fred Pelhay and Rickety, but instead Bachmann released the Open Wagon - Blue and the Cargo Car?
Have you already got a 77202 Narrow Gauge Box Van - Blue then?
Yes that is correct.
No I do not have one yet, I said that I am tempted to pick one up, but I don't have any of the Skarloey stock yet.
Quote from: Chaz on November 08, 2015, 03:00:08 PM
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on November 08, 2015, 02:54:21 PM
So is that why the Open Wagon - Blue and the Cargo Car was released, as they where supposed to be Fred Pelhay and Rickety, but instead Bachmann released the Open Wagon - Blue and the Cargo Car, as HiT Entertainment would not give the approval too Bachmann to put those two Open Wagon's into production?
Have you already got a 77202 Narrow Gauge Box Van - Blue then?
Yes that is correct.
No I do not have one yet, I said that I am tempted to pick one up, but I don't have any of the Skarloey stock yet.
Thank you. What is wrong with putting RWS characters into a merchandise production though? Why do HiT Entertainment have a problem with it?
I plan on getting Narrow Gauge Skarloey and all of the Narrow Gauge Rolling Stock as well.
Bachmann tries to produce the models as they are seen in the television series, they've done some stock with some RWS theme to it as I said earlier. But for the most part they usually aim to make the ranges to look like what's seen on the television series because that's what more people are familiar with nowadays.
Quote from: Chaz on November 08, 2015, 06:10:24 PM
Bachmann tries to produce the models as they are seen in the television series, they've done some stock with some RWS theme to it as I said earlier. But for the most part they usually aim to make the ranges to look like what's seen on the television series because that's what more people are familiar with nowadays.
I agree they do. Hornby produce their Thomas & Friends Locomotives as they would appear in real life.
For anyone who wants to build a model of Luke.
http://narrowplanet.myshopify.com/products/tms-01
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on November 08, 2015, 02:54:21 PM
Quote from: Chaz on November 08, 2015, 02:45:22 PM
Quote from: AJW98Productions on November 08, 2015, 06:37:41 AM
A few years ago BACHMANN announced 2 trucks that had RWS exclusives and from what I've heard they couldn't get approval from HiT to manufacture them, although I could be wrong, I think RWS models also have a narrower (no pun intended) target audience to more easily appeal to, as the TVS is more relevant to the younger audience, which seems to be deprived of the RWS, which is a shame really, there are lot's of amazing RWS stories that haven't made it to screens or into the hearts and minds of children they were intended for after all...
Alex, that is correct. Fred and Ricketty were both announced in 2005 and were cancelled in mid-production because Hit did not approve of them being made, hence why the open wagon was blue and the cargo car was painted orange (which was odd because at that time, there were no orange wagons on the show).
Bachmann generally aims to make characters as they were in the television series rather than designs from the books. Some of the rolling stock they have made in the past have done stock that have some nice RWS touches to them, including the blue narrow gauge van has an 'SR' logo printed on too. That alone has me tempted to pick one of those up!
So is that why the Open Wagon - Blue and the Cargo Car was released, as they where supposed to be Fred Pelhay and Rickety, but instead Bachmann released the Open Wagon - Blue and the Cargo Car, as HiT Entertainment would not give the approval too Bachmann to put those two Open Wagon's into production?
Have you already got a 77202 Narrow Gauge Box Van - Blue then?
if you wanted to you could make fred pelhay if you can get you hands on a cargo car
heres a link to the on i did http://jmoney919.deviantart.com/art/models-296114473
Quote from: shining time on November 10, 2015, 08:09:44 PM
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on November 08, 2015, 02:54:21 PM
Quote from: Chaz on November 08, 2015, 02:45:22 PM
Quote from: AJW98Productions on November 08, 2015, 06:37:41 AM
A few years ago BACHMANN announced 2 trucks that had RWS exclusives and from what I've heard they couldn't get approval from HiT to manufacture them, although I could be wrong, I think RWS models also have a narrower (no pun intended) target audience to more easily appeal to, as the TVS is more relevant to the younger audience, which seems to be deprived of the RWS, which is a shame really, there are lot's of amazing RWS stories that haven't made it to screens or into the hearts and minds of children they were intended for after all...
Alex, that is correct. Fred and Ricketty were both announced in 2005 and were cancelled in mid-production because Hit did not approve of them being made, hence why the open wagon was blue and the cargo car was painted orange (which was odd because at that time, there were no orange wagons on the show).
Bachmann generally aims to make characters as they were in the television series rather than designs from the books. Some of the rolling stock they have made in the past have done stock that have some nice RWS touches to them, including the blue narrow gauge van has an 'SR' logo printed on too. That alone has me tempted to pick one of those up!
So is that why the Open Wagon - Blue and the Cargo Car was released, as they where supposed to be Fred Pelhay and Rickety, but instead Bachmann released the Open Wagon - Blue and the Cargo Car, as HiT Entertainment would not give the approval too Bachmann to put those two Open Wagon's into production?
Have you already got a 77202 Narrow Gauge Box Van - Blue then?
if you wanted to you could make fred pelhay if you can get you hands on a cargo car
heres a link to the on i did http://jmoney919.deviantart.com/art/models-296114473
I haven't got time to be making my own characters, but thank you for the suggestion.