Does any one want any new Locos from Bachmann ??? I want a C&O 2-6-6-6 Allegheany. I also want a 2-8-8-2 N&W. I like Engines from the B&O,C&O,N&W, and Pennsylvania.
Thanks
been done, both types by Rivarossi. Also Bachmann just released a B&O Engine, Shark Noses. (a 2-6-6-6 is about $350, I managed to get my three for $250-289)
Hi adari,
I think from reading many other threads on the Bachmann forum regarding suggestions for 'new steam' locomotives, it would be fair to say that a large number of modelers are looking for smaller, more mundane locomotives than the ones you mentioned (though they certainly are impressive motive power!).
It seems to me that there is a lot of interest in 2-6-0, 4-6-0, 4-6-2 (specially) and 2-8-2 (specially).
I know my friend Gene will probably 'scream' if he reads this ... but I suppose this is about the '450th' time I've mentioned how neat it would be to see a Spectrum Harriman 2-8-2 ;D
Now THAT would be exciting. The option for me is 'kit bashing' the Spectrum 2-8-0 into a 2-8-2 which I am in the process of trying to do (if you are interested in a photo of my start check out the 'kit bashed 0-6-0' thread.
Anyway ... personally, as impressive as 'big steam' is ... I think HO needs more emphasis on Harriman style 4-6-2s and 2-8-2s. (Just my personal opinion)
lanny
Rivarossi and its heirs has done the Allegheny (2-6-6-6) and there are several N&W 2-8-8-2s available. Why not ask for a C&O H-7, 2-8-8-2, all of which are currently in brass, but which served on at least three railroads?
But remember, most layouts can't really support big steam. And what about Harrimans?
Gene
Don't forget us electric modelers! The E60 release has given us hope that there might be more elctrics in the making. An E44 perhaps? Or maybe a Little Joe? For that matter, I'd like any electric, preferably as well done as the HHP-8.
One more thing. Does anyone Know of all the engines I mentionioned and all the others everyone else mentioned with sound, DCC, or sound and DCC. Oh also BaltoOhioRRfan. When you get your Allegheany can you tell me what radius it works best on.
Did I mention a 4-4-4-4 T-1. I have always wanted a 4-4-4-4 T-1
I already have it, in fact I already have all three. Bought em at M B Kleins(Considently i work there!) i run em on 28 inch right now, (Bachmann EZ Track). They will take 18 inch, i know that for sure. I've heard they will take 15 inch also, but i havent tried it.
You can get a T-1 from Bowser. It waddles down the track like the real ones did; kind of like a crab.
Big articulated engines are certainly worth modeling but many people would like some more smaller engines. I have put in plugs for a Wabash Mogul (last steam engine on the Wabash - 1954) as wll as a Santa Fe 2-8-0. The Santa Fe engine from PFM was a big seller in brass and I think a Bachmann model would do well. If memory serves me, the Beano (that's B&O to the uninitiated) also had a nice consolidation.
I am a proponent of making models of everything, but the market for the big articulated may be small.
Good Morning All,
The Blue Line from Broadway/Precision Craft offers the N&W 2-8-8-2 with sound, no dcc, and for $199 you can get the engine with no sound or dcc. As far as I know, if you want to spend the $$$$ you can still get the engine with sound and DCC. They are also offering the Big Boy with sound and no dcc.
I am one who also would love to see smaller engines. I would love to see someone do the Pennsy B-6 switcher with the slopeback tender. In a class where not to many U.S. roads participated, I would love to see an N&W 4-8-0 with both the four and six wheel tenders offered.
I have a question. Do Blue Line locos acctually come with instructio/ns to open the engine up and put in a DCC decoder. It advertised that it is easy to open. I need alayout with DCC. Oh. I also like small engine I just dont have any big locos. ;)
Adari,
As far as I know, you open the tender, not the engine to put in the decoder. How easy, well, the ones I opened, the light mikes were just a matter of removing the coupler and lifting the shell off the frame.
I would like the Milwaukee Road A Class locomotive, ATSF Blue Goose, SP Cab Forward, Gs-2, and Gs-6.
BLI makes the Cab Forward. The other two are totally road specific so I'm not sure that Bachmann would be that interested. The Road Class A was a passenger loco and getting the correct cars for it might be a little difficult. The Hiawatha that Walters is going to produce was never pulled by an "A."
Gene
If anyone would give me an idea for diesel locos and electric locos for the Pennsylvania,B&O, C&O, and N&W threw the 1900's to 1970's. I dont only want big steam locos I want small simple engines.
Thank you everyone!
Quote from: SteamGene on October 22, 2007, 09:10:28 AM
BLI makes the Cab Forward. The other two are totally road specific so I'm not sure that Bachmann would be that interested. The Road Class A was a passenger loco and getting the correct cars for it might be a little difficult. The Hiawatha that Walters is going to produce was never pulled by an "A."
Gene
The hiawatha was pulled by an A. Are you thinking of the steam hiawatha that was before the A.
The Walthers Olympian Hi is a 1950s train. By that time the Road Class A's were engine blocks and frying pans.
Gene
Oh here are some engines you might not have heard of a PRR Q2 4-4-6-4 and a PRR S1 duplex 6-4-4-6. Does anyone know what companie(s) makes them. Oh canyou als helpwith this...
Quote from: adari on October 22, 2007, 05:10:07 PM
If anyone would give me an idea for diesel locos and electric locos for the Pennsylvania,B&O, C&O, and N&W threw the 1900's to 1970's. I dont only want big steam locos I want small simple engines.
Thank you everyone!
Both the PRR's Q1 and S1 steam locomotives were big engines with very few in each class. They were an effort on the PRR to retain coal fired steam locomotives. The S1 was not articulated and was really a 4-8-4 with four sets of cylinders. Neither fit your concept of small locomotives. Bowser may have a kitl of the S1 but I think brass is the only way with the Q1.
C&O 2-8-0s were in the G class. There were also some small Atlantics, but I'd have to look up the information. The Chesapeake and Ohio Historical Society web page has a listing off all C&O steam; you might check it out. But be aware that the C&O was known for big steam.
Gene
Pennsy used many kinds of diesel locomotives from several manufacturers in their diesel era. As for steam engines they had many classes and some of these were one or two of a kind.
I would suggest you go online to Wikipedia or Google Pennsylvania Railroad to get more information about the railroad. Go to the Bowser website and check out their on-line catalog showing their HO engines. Their models are representative of some of the more common PRR types.
1900- 1970 is a huge period to model. You need to pick a period you like. As for the Pennsy, people often focus on one branch or one division - like Lines West, for example.
On a steam locomotive there are all kinds of production problems. 3 RRs had 4-6-4s with 84inch
drives. Other than the main frame nothing else is interchangeable. The CNW locomotives look
nothing like the Milw. Or stsf locomotives. The atsf 3460 looks nothing like the other 5
locomotives. DI can see why these companies make USRA locomotives. They were all alike
when they were built. My railroad had over 1000 steam locomotives, but not one USRA
locomotive, I just have to live with that.
I'd tend to side with those who are looking for the smaller to medium sized locomotives. The big articulateds look great but they are expensive and "sometimes" don't live up to our expectations. I have a couple that seem to have a hard time pulling their own tenders. : (
Funny that while I am interested in the Nickel Plate, I sometimes like engines solely for the way they look. Along those lines, I'd like to see a mid-sized loco with both an Elesco feedwater heater AND flying pumps mounted on the smokebox. I think at one time, AHM/IHC did a Mikado that way. Probably the others I've seen are brass and would be of little interest to me. But alas, some Pacifics have also been equipped the same way. Maybe someday I'll see one along those lines...
dlm
C&O K class Mikados and F class Pacifics had flying pumps - or most of them did, and many had Elesco feedwater heaters. In addition, many had Vanderbilt tenders and most without Vandys had large rectangular ones.
Gene
I'm still waiting for a nice looking 0-4-0T.
I want a Virginian 2-10-10-2, and I want it perfectly accurate, and I want it by March, 2008. The N&W Class M, M-1, and M-2s would be nice too, and I don't absolutely have to have one before June.
Get the lead out Bach Man !
Virginian,
You forgot to indicate if you wanted it as delivered, after which shopping, or just before retirement. That might mean they can't possibly do it before April.
I'd give them until July for the M class, since they also need to make a choice.
Gene
Virginian, you want that 2-10-10-2 to run on your 4 by 8 layout.
If Bachmann produces a good looking/running N&W M class you can put me down for 3!
I am not going to say anything further, and they better get it right !
RAM - Darned right, it better negotiate 22" curves and #4 switches And keep the tender tucked close, and no crabwalking out of the turns. And it better pull 200 cars up a 2% grade too !
Thank you everybody. My P.R.R plans are coming together.
Quote from: SteamGene on December 06, 2007, 09:51:19 PM
C&O K class Mikados and F class Pacifics had flying pumps - or most of them did, and many had Elesco feedwater heaters. In addition, many had Vanderbilt tenders and most without Vandys had large rectangular ones.
Gene
Yes, those are the engines that I like the looks of... and I've always thought that the Vanderbilt Tender was cool looking. I don't believe the NKP had any; maybe that's why I liked the GN as well.
dlm
Does anyone know what company make a P.R.R BB1 electric locomotive? Oh and thanks for the help.
Adari
Quote from: adari on December 11, 2007, 08:51:06 PM
Does anyone know what company make a P.R.R BB1 electric locomotive? Oh and thanks for the help.
Adari
You can't get a B1 electric in plastic or even resin. It's simply too unique, and switchers do not have reputation for being good sellers. The fact that it's electric is strike three, only brass will have it. I know they've been made- perhaps several times. I seem to recall that Alco Models made one at one point, but I'm not certain. Obsessively montitoring eBay is is your best bet, along with checking out train shows in your area.
Quote from: SteamGene on October 29, 2007, 09:22:27 AM
Both the PRR's Q1 and S1 steam locomotives were big engines with very few in each class. They were an effort on the PRR to retain coal fired steam locomotives. The S1 was not articulated and was really a 4-8-4 with four sets of cylinders. Neither fit your concept of small locomotives. Bowser may have a kitl of the S1 but I think brass is the only way with the Q1.
C&O 2-8-0s were in the G class. There were also some small Atlantics, but I'd have to look up the information. The Chesapeake and Ohio Historical Society web page has a listing off all C&O steam; you might check it out. But be aware that the C&O was known for big steam.
Gene
The 4-4-4-4 was acctually a 4-8-4, not the S1, I think!
The S1 was the only locomotive ever built to use a 6-4-4-6 wheel arrangement. Also, the S1 class was a duplex locomotive, meaning that it had two pairs of cylinders, each driving two pairs of driving wheels. Unlike similar-looking articulated locomotive designs, the driven wheelbase of the S1 was rigid. The S1 was completed January 31, 1939 and was assigned locomotive number 6100.[4]
The T1 was a 4-4-4-4. the PRR did not have any 4-8-4s. They did test the N.&.W. Js. I just wonder what it would have looked like had made a 4-8-4. One thing for sure. It would have been a better locomotive than the T1
Ram,
Sorry about getting the class code of the PRR 4-4-4-4 incorrect. From what I've read and remember, the PRR wanted a 4-8-4, but wanted to reduce the rod weight, so they designed an actual 4-8-4 with each pair of driver sets having its own cylinders. IIRC, the C&O tested a 4-4-4-4 and it gave good performance except in one place - Waynesboro, Virginia, where it stalled. There were apparently mitigating circumstances to the stall.
Merry Ninth Day of Christmas
Gene
Gene, Are you planning for any square-head electics on your 1957 layout?
I know you're a steam guy but your neck of the woods had two lines playing with electricity over the mountains in 1957. Just asking.
The Pennsy T1 had the nasty habit of one set of drivers slipping like crazy while the other was still working. The S-1 had two turbines, a big one for forward and a small one for reverse. The big one was capable of over 6000 horsepower.
The Q-1 was supposed to have better traction. Nada. The J-1s easily out pulled them everywhere. The long rigid wheelbases kept most of them west of Crestline, Ohio. The J-1 lasted until the end of steam. The others only into the early 50s. T-1 engineers hated any track that was icy as one engine or the other would slip. One remarked that some idiot forgot to put side rods between the two sets. Not really a great idea on a rigid frame.
The electrics were to the south of me. I know the Virginian had an electrified district. I'm not sure what the other railroad would be. If I were to go electric, it would be Little Joes in Montana and Idaho. :D
Merry Eleventh Day of Christmas.
Gene
Gene,
The N&W had electrics over the Blue Ridge. They were just as big and ugly as the ones on the Virginian
The Blue Ridge? Where the N&W crossed the Blue Ridge, it was no more than a speed bump. West of Roanoke is something else.
Merry Eleventh Day of Christmas.
Gene
Quote from: japasha on January 04, 2008, 02:53:28 PM
Gene,
The N&W had electrics over the Blue Ridge. They were just as big and ugly as the ones on the Virginian
The boxcabs, maybe, but the Virginian EL2-B "streamliners'" were certainly not ugly.
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff83/Penncentral/VirginianEL2-B.jpg)
The Virginian regressed from there, with the EL-C "bricks" (E-33's).
Sorry, Gene. I meant WEST of Roanoke. Yes, there was electricity through the air on the N&W. The Virginian followed suit
Like I said, Little Joes in Montana and Idaho.
Have a great Twelvth Night
Gene